Nintendo reveals the "New Nintendo 3DS" and "New Nintendo 3DS LL"

So how much in €/£ going by the 3DS/3DSLL yen prices?

Having bought the OG 3DS at launch, I am ready to upgrade to the next generation of Nintendo handheld consoles.
 
So it's basically a whole new machine. Its features either go mostly unused, or render the old 3DS (and 2DS) obsolete.

Not sure if I should feel happy for this news, or sad for my old portable (which I bought last year, and I'd need to replace it if the latter scenario happens.)
 
More I think about it, the more it smells of desperation.

Nintendo needs new things to buoy sales, but is stuck mid-gen.

So put out a revision. Cool!

But: their circumstances demand something more than a small revision might provide. The new model needs some extra pull over and above cosmetic or new color tweaks. So make one cheap and modest change to the game runtime (CPU), and dangle the fear of software lockout over your existing audience to push more sales. Lead the charge with a first party game.

'Cynical Nintendo' at its best, but these are probably desperate times for Nintendo. I doubt the CPU improvement is anything that couldn't have been put in the original model.

I dunno, the dsi came out when nintendo were at their richest and most complacent and had a boosted cpu for exclusive games.

Only difference is that nintendo are porting a fairly well loved game this time round.
 
To the guys voicing their negative opinion about that small second stick:
There are at most 10 games on 3DS that support a second stick.
And of those I can only list Resident Evil Revelaitons, Resident Evil Mercenaries 3D, Monster Hunter 3U and Monster Hunter 4U. Oh, and Kid Icarus Uprising.
It's not that big a deal.
 
When i'm just buying new xl, then a week later, nintendo done this (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

I'll wait another announcement for specific title for new 3ds before i get another 3ds

Xenoblade is specifically for the New 3DS
 
I just can't see them kicking out a 40 million userbase for a 3D Zelda title. OoT3D sold 3.35 million, they aren't going to risk it unless the New 3DS has a massive adoption rate. The hardware was also fine with OoT3D, so I'm not sure what huge gains they'd get from the CPU other than maybe a boost to 60fps.

Xenoblade is them paddling in the water. It's not a huge title but it isn't DSiWare either.

Yeah, I do think it's unlikely. They might do something like a "60fps on New 3DS!" feature like you say.
 
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Really bummed at the fact that the faceplate & SNES button colors aren't on the New XL. I get hand cramps when playing with the smaller size, so that's an actual issue. Might suck it up though, because I love me some faceplates.
 
I think it's good business to bring out an Amiibo 3DS, and good to expand control options. However, I'm not too sure it's in their best interests to segregate SKU's in terms of game availability through performance. Makes marketing potentially confusing. I guess it all depends on how many new games make use out of the additional performance gains.
 
Well damn. I always thought if Nintendo could improve the viewing angle of the 3D screen they'd keep 3D as a feature on their handhelds. The idea is fine, the poor tech just spoiled it. This is actually really interesting.
 
Because the other games don't have to be full exclusive. They could just offer better visuals/framerate/whatever on New 3DS.
No major game is going to be exclusive to the New 3DS, unless all the 3DS owners migrate to it.

I think that partially the plan, they want a high adoption rate, because the 3DS sales are slowing hard.

Just a few visual enhancement won't probably entice 3DS owners to buy new hardware, with the danger of a more enticing smartphone gaming about to fall over them seems counterproductive.
 
I dunno, the dsi came out when nintendo were at their richest and most complacent and had a boosted cpu for exclusive games.

Only difference is that nintendo are porting a fairly well loved game this time round.

Yeah but that's a fairly big difference if we're to take it as a statement of intent, vs DSi software.

Also, I see mentions of PSPGo, but IIRC, the game runtime environment was static. Hardware improvements were for OS use only.
 
Is not. DSi was still a DS at a retail level (in 99% of games), this new portable is not.

Is like saying the 32X was a revision. Whatever the small library it had, it wasn't.

the 32x was physically an add-on that you attached to the megadrive.
it also had a significant enough library of games you could clearly/visibly identify as being only playable on the 32x.

these new pieces of hardware are revisions. you can play any 3ds or ds game from the enormous library it already has on these systems. it still has the same general form factor as its older siblings.
there is 1 game announced for it that can only be played on it. and even then, it's a port of a game that is out on a completely different system (you mean i have to buy a wii to play the original xenoblade chronicles?! fuck you nintendo!)

again. it has much more in common with the concept of the dsi, then your 32x's, or sega cd's, nomads, or whatever ill-supported sega hardware post-mega drive.

i understand the desire to be 'outraged', and that's fine.
it just really comes across as making a mountain out of a molehill.

there is no 'fractured user base', no 'shot themselves in the foot/expert on japanese culture' shenanigans here. it's a simple upgrade with more generally colorful cosmetic upgrades designed to prolong the life of a system that is approaching it's senior years.

that's it. nothing more. i'm not even getting this because it won't really need it. the same way i didn't really need a dsi.
 
Wonder what this means for Pokemon? Hopefully more stable framerate or full 3D.
Pokemon ruby and sapphire will be chugging along with the same old X/Y engine. However, I am definitely hoping the next mainline game is enhanced for this!
 
Woah, I didn't expect this, especially from a JPN only Direct. All the improvements sound great and the blue color looks good. I just don't get the name..
 
Woah, really glad that I stuck with my launch OG model for as long as I did. Second stick looks pretty weird but I need to use it for myself before I make any judgements.
 
Woah, I didn't expect this, especially from a JPN only Direct. All the improvements sound great and the blue color looks good. I just don't get the name..

because it's japanese yo

also i'd like nintendo to start a policy that everytime the stylus slot is moved that the hardware designers have to stab themselves with a stylus

BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE METAPHORICALLY DOING TO ME
 
Out of interest - Is the Wii Version hard to find/pricey in the US? Still holds a £40 price here in the UK.

I think they'll translate it. If they already have the translation for the Wii version the least they could do is use that right?

Seems like it'd still be a lot of work, who knows how much they had to rebuild from scratch just to get it running? I'd say an HD rermaster on Wii U is much more likely for other territories.
 
Pokemon ruby and sapphire will be chugging along with the same old X/Y engine. However, I am definitely hoping the next mainline game is enhanced for this!

I wonder if ORAS were programmed with New 3DS enhancements in mind...

Fully expecting Pokemon Z (or ZX/ZY if they want to sell two copies like B2/W2) to have "Enhanced on New 3DS" on the cover.
 
I'm pre-ordering that off white regular New 3DS asap.

DSi was my perfect handheld in terms of form factor and screen size. OG 3DS screens were too small, and the LL is ever so slightly too big to fit in my pockets nicely. New 3DS has the form factor I want, and slightly bigger than DSi screens. Perfect.

Yes, into my veins Iwata.
 
Poor Nintendo of Europe. How the fuck are they supposed to sell the old model DS's this holiday when there's new models around the corner in early 2015? Why not release these for Christmas? I was sure that was the whole point.

Madness, just madness.

Thats what I'm saying. :/
 
the 32x was physically an add-on that you attached to the megadrive.
it also had a significant enough library of games you could clearly/visibly identify as being only playable on the 32x.

these new pieces of hardware are revisions. you can play any 3ds or ds game from the enormous library it already has on these systems. it still has the same general form factor as its older siblings.
there is 1 game announced for it that can only be played on it. and even then, it's a port of a game that is out on a completely different system (you mean i have to buy a wii to play the original xenoblade chronicles?! fuck you nintendo!)

again. it has much more in common with the concept of the dsi, then your 32x's, or sega cd's, nomads, or whatever ill-supported sega hardware post-mega drive.

i understand you want to be 'outraged', and that's fine.
but you should know you are, in fact, making a mountain out of a molehill.

there is no 'fractured user base', no 'shot themselves in the foot/expert on japanese culture' shenanigans here. it's a simple upgrade with more generally colorful cosmetic upgrades designed to prolong the life of a system that is approaching it's senior years.

that's it. nothing more.

I'm not "outraged", I just find it hilarious as a new hardware, which, whatever you try to argue, is obvious that it is. In the same way the New Ipad was new hardware. We are seeing the same exact tactic, just Nintendo style (in the most cheapest way).

From the moment it has a retail exclusive game (and probably more) in the way, stops being similar to a DSi and becomes similar to a GBC and other new hardware (you know that getting a PS2 you had access to a vast array of PS1 games?)
 
Um, what dafuq are you smoking? While it may not be quite as convenient as a proper cloud based system, the 3DS's system transfer system is near flawless for what it is.
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"Near flawless for what it is"?! If they just had an account system this would not be a problem. It's massively inconvenient for people who plan to trade in their existing system for a new one.
 
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