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[Bjoern the Smexy]

Why "LL"?

Because the Japanese call the 3DS XL "3DS LL". Same with the DSi, btw.

 

[Easy_D]

HOLY FUCK. The best kind of revision!

 

[zerokoolpsx]

So it finally has a second analog stick now? Still haven't bought a 3ds. How much is the cpu upgrade exactly?

 

[Fey]

i cant stop cryine

 

[Nilaul]

So better cameras?

 

[Blue Griffin]

Region Free this time ???

 

[HeisenbergLannister]

It's an upgrade to an existing system, that's all it's meant to be. They wanted to keep the form factor and shape and these come with space restrictions. The "stick" is probably like those mouse nubs on laptops and isn't meant to be used as a main input method, probably just for occasional camera adjustment for the few games that would benefit from it. I don't understand why people are so upset. If the 3DS didn't interest you previously, this update isn't meant to make you do a 180.

Pretty much, I just tried it on the current 3DS XL, and it's not that bad of spot. Maybe occasionally accidentally hit the X button, but it's a C-stick, similar to the GC.

 

[Bjoern the Smexy]

But with the faceplate system, you can import Japanese plates!

With the faceplate system I will buy the same plates multiple times so I can paint them white and then design them myself.

Region Free this time ???

Don't bet on it.
It's still a Nintendo system. You better live in Japan or Europe if you want to get the best out of that system.

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

But with the faceplate system, you can import Japanese plates!

True! Very true. But that blue LL looks ugly.

I want a white one so the customizable faceplates will look better!

 

[ffdgh]

But with the faceplate system, you can import Japanese plates!

But what if they're region locked?

Spoiler

lol

 

[Volotaire]

Region Free this time ???

Good joke.

 

[AndyMoogle]

even for the downloaded games from eshop?

You'll have to transfer those through the system transfer on the 3DS. I'm sure they'll add an extra step to the update for those who want to update from a 3DS to a New 3DS. Or they'll just give you an adapter for the SD mini so that it can fit in the 3DS when you do the system transfer.

 

[mclem]

But with the faceplate system, you can import Japanese plates!

It's Nintendo.

They'll be region-locked.

 

[Insaniac]

Well my OG 3DS joystick was starting to act funky with its inputs (Very noticeable when i play AC) so I'm okay with this. Time to retire my current 3DS and upgrade when this comes out.

 

[Napalm_Frank]

If 3D is improved enough and it's cheap I will replace my OG white 3DS. The battery life is fuckin horrible.

 

[Pandora012]

That second stick looks awkward.

 

[Hayabusi]

While we are at it: I am the only who always changes the volume unintentionally whily playing? Is there an option to turn that switch off?

 

[Kain]

This looks terrible. Nintendo really outdid themselves, kudos to them.

 

[epmode]

That second stick is *awful*. What are they thinking?

 

[sub_o]

Is there an FAQ available? I wanna check whether it's still compatible with DS games.

 

[Bjoern the Smexy]

It's Nintendo.

They'll be region-locked.

Okay, this one got me. :lol

 

[lt519]

Improved 3D will go a long way, I barely use mine since it has to be so direct.

Be getting this day one, hopefully $199.

 

[mandiller]

The battery in the New XL is the exact same size as the old XL. The system must drain less power in order to get a longer battery life. Maybe the CPU/gpu are revised and smaller?

 

[Saro]

Skins for the home menu

SWEET JESUS I WANT IT SO BAD. My sister is gonna kill me D:

 

[Min0]

True! Very true. But that blue LL looks ugly.

I want a white one so the customizable faceplates will look better!

The LL doesn't have customizable faceplates, sorry

 

[Meier]

Erm WTF?
If there are going to be new3DS exclusive games I'm done with the handheld.

Hopefully somebody comes in to set the story straight.

Games come out that are exclusive to new versions of the iPhone or iPad and those devices cost a shitload more to upgrade. It's not that big of a deal IMO. You can always trade in your current system when this comes out for at least 1/3rd the price. $100 every few years isn't that bad.

 

[Mlatador]

One of the real megatons is the 3D eye tracking, which will eliminate the need for a "sweet spot" when using 3D.

I am SOOO curious how this will work. If this works well, this would change my negative perception of the current 3D effect a lot I think.

 

[AndyMoogle]

While we are at it: I am the only who always changes the volume unintentionally whily playing? Is there an option to turn that switch off?

I've never done that.

Speaking of audio, I hope the speakers aren't shit this time on the XL. They have slightly more space this time around, so I hope that's because they wanted to add better speakers.

 

[Yokai]

I can't believe almost all Neogaf community is loving this s**t.

Bad left analogue since day one, uncomfortable shoulder buttons and now a new right tiny analogue (so you need it Nintendo, right?) and a new shoulder button,.... and you look so happy. You look like Apple fanboys. (

3ds is a total mess and they are trying to fix it instead to rebuild it from scratch.

This is so true. I didn't realise gaf was comprised of this many Nintendo fanatics.

 

[DrROBschiz]

That second stick looks awkward.

Better than CPP IMHO

Now I get actual camera control without losing form factor and having to use a damn AAA battery

 

[sniperpon]

They look good, but... where are they going with this? With a new button and NFC support, this almost strikes me as a pseudo-new platform...? I guess they are not planning on releasing a real 3DS successor in the next few years?

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

That's no excuse for poor design. They could have added a usable second stick and not broken compatibility.

This thing looks like a bad fan mock up and an ergonomic nightmare.

You can still buy the CPP. Regarding ergonomics, I can't comment until I've tried it, so I don't know if it's poor design beside maybe aesthetically, and personally I'm okay with how it looks.

I can't believe almost all Neogaf community is loving this s**t.

Bad left analogue since day one, uncomfortable shoulder buttons and now a new right tiny analogue (so you need it Nintendo, right?) and a new shoulder button,.... and you look so happy. You look like Apple fanboys. (

3ds is a total mess and they are trying to fix it instead to rebuild it from scratch.

I don't see it that way at all. I see it as a temporary fix which will hopefully be fully addressed with their next system, and I still think the 3DS has two years tops left in it.

 

[BriGuy]

The ergonomics on that thing look like butt. Why not lower the buttons and make the second stick the same size and general location of the first one? Stupid, stupid, stupid.

 

[Hironobu Sakaguchi]

You'll have to transfer those through the system transfer on the 3DS. I'm sure they'll add an extra step to the update for those who want to update from a 3DS to a New 3DS. Or they'll just give you an adapter for the SD mini so that it can fit in the 3DS when you do the system transfer.

as if i'm going to keep the system till the release time
i wanna sell it soon and keep the memory for transfer matters, if that's wont do, then whatever :\

 

[TheFLYINGManga_Ka]

The LL doesn't have customizable faceplates, sorry

Shoot! Well, even more so to wait for a bundle or better colors.

 

[AndyMoogle]

as if i'm going to keep the system till the release time
i wanna sell it soon and keep the memory for transfer matters, if that's wont do, then whatever :\

That's not going to work. You have to transfer the licenses between two systems and you need both systems on hand for that.

 

[TransientDreamer]

Sigh, now I don't have a good reason to get the Super Smash Bros. 3DS XL if/when it's released here. Hopefully there's a New 3DS/LL version of it that they haven't revealed yet.

 

[Ghazi]

But with the faceplate system, you can import Japanese plates!

They have faceplate region locking, duh! Faceplates for different regions have different methods of hooking on

 

[Majukun]

so my 3ds is now useless?

 

[SuperSah]

If Smash Bros. supports the CPP, that's all I need.

 

[Rnr1224]

O so the White one with the famicom buttons is only for the smaller 3ds. damn! i love the size of my XL

 

[KojiKnight]

I hope the New 3DS opens up SNES and GBA Virtual Console.

This is a really really good point. Better CPU could most definitely open up some great new VC options.

 

[Jolkien]

What happens if I play a game that require ZL and RL button but I only own a 3DS XL ? Can't play ?

 

[Kazerei]

The second stick looks awkward, but I guess I should reserve judgment until I try it. Hope it reaches North America before MH4U. I haven't ordered a CPP XL yet, but I would just buy a New 3DS XL if the second stick feels good.

 

[figadapaura]

Ugh, just release a new handheld. What is the point of these except to make people who already own a 3DS to buy a new one?

 

[Uncle Rupee]

so my 3ds is now useless?

Yes, completely and utterly useless if you want to play a Japanese-only (pending a localization that likely will never come) downgrade of Xenoblade.

 

[DrROBschiz]

I can't believe almost all Neogaf community is loving this s**t.

Bad left analogue since day one, uncomfortable shoulder buttons and now a new right tiny analogue (so you need it Nintendo, right?) and a new shoulder button,.... and you look so happy. You look like Apple fanboys. (

3ds is a total mess and they are trying to fix it instead to rebuild it from scratch.

Dude I totally agree on all points

If anything this is a half effort towards making it a better piece of hardware.

That said.. I am glad I waited. MH4U is a must have for me so at least I can play it on something better.

 

[The Llama]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=880439&highlight=

And a week ago people said it was a good time to buy a 3DS

 

[GuardianE]

Japanese use LL instead of XL

The XL has always been called LL in Japan

Because the Japanese call the 3DS XL "3DS LL". Same with the DSi, btw.

Interesting. What does it stand for?

 

[AndyMoogle]

so my 3ds is now useless?

Yes. If you turn it on now you'll notice that it can't play any games at all anymore.