Are you saying Xenoblade doesn't have 60hz OR 480p support for the PAL release?PAL was 25fps while NTSC was 30fps.
I do feel sorry for whoever plays this on the New 3DS, though.
Xenoblade, out of any game that I can think of, NEEDS good resolution for the whole experience. Playing at a resolution that's much lower than the Wii's resolution just does not make any sense to me.
I do feel sorry for whoever plays this on the New 3DS, though.
Xenoblade, out of any game that I can think of, NEEDS good resolution for the whole experience. Playing at a resolution that's much lower than the Wii's resolution just does not make any sense to me.
work with me here.
is it really unfathomable that the game, as it stands, will see improvements? I'm not being obtuse here.
I agree. I hope nintendo remasters this for wii U. 3ds version looks ugly as hell. eww.
I'll elaborate with an example.
Dolphin:
Wii:
Instead of the Wii's 480p resolution, Xenoblade 3DS' resolution will be 240p.
I'll elaborate with an example.
Dolphin:
Wii:
Instead of the Wii's 480p resolution, Xenoblade 3DS' resolution will be 240p.
The thing about it is that I don't remember my Wii looking that blurry or jaggy. Strange.
You do understand that this is a bad example, right? The Wii version looks so bad on HDTVs because it's being upscaled. If the 3DS version is rendered at the native resolution of the 3DS screen, it should look much clearer than the Wii version does on a 1080p display.
Gameboy Color.If this only plays on the "new" 3DS then Nintendo has truly lost the plot.
This isn't a god damn ipad where upgrades come every couple years. It's a frigging handheld gaming device, at least change the name. What a joke.
I'm not buying this crap and it's making me consider not buying nintendo products again. It's amazing how Nintendo shits all over their early adopters.
This isn't a god damn ipad where upgrades come every couple years.
If this only plays on the "new" 3DS then Nintendo has truly lost the plot.
This isn't a god damn ipad where upgrades come every couple years. It's a frigging handheld gaming device, at least change the name. What a joke.
I'm not buying this crap and it's making me consider not buying nintendo products again. It's amazing how Nintendo shits all over their early adopters.
Gameboy Color.
DSi.
It happens every generation. You probably haven't been buying Nintendo products for long if you think this is new.
If this only plays on the "new" 3DS then Nintendo has truly lost the plot.
This isn't a god damn ipad where upgrades come every couple years. It's a frigging handheld gaming device, at least change the name. What a joke.
I'm not buying this crap and it's making me consider not buying nintendo products again. It's amazing how Nintendo shits all over their early adopters.
If this only plays on the "new" 3DS then Nintendo has truly lost the plot.
This isn't a god damn ipad where upgrades come every couple years. It's a frigging handheld gaming device, at least change the name. What a joke.
I'm not buying this crap and it's making me consider not buying nintendo products again. It's amazing how Nintendo shits all over their early adopters.
Spare me. I'm 29, I grew up on Nintendo consoles and handhelds.
All the DSi did was provide a camera and access to overpriced subpar downloadable games.
Game Boy Color is a completely different system. Game Boy being the name of nintendo's handheld line at the time. GBA and GBA SP could all play the same games, one just happened to have a back light and better design. "New" 3ds is going to divide the market because I'm assuming that it'll play 3ds games just fine and that there's only going to be select games specifically for the "new" 3ds.
Calling it the "new" 3ds is a slap in the face of the people who are early adopters and i'd wager that you yourself haven't been playing nintendo products as long as I have because you'd probably be angry too. Nintendo has fell so far from where they were in the 90's and early 2000's. They're a shell of their former self and it's pathetic and sad. Not only were they too dumb to bring xenoblade over on the wii when NA wii supporters were clamoring for it, they now have the audacity to create a "new" 3ds that leaves millions of 3ds owners out in the cold.
There's nothing cool about this.
Spare me. I'm 29, I grew up on Nintendo consoles and handhelds.
All the DSi did was provide a camera and access to overpriced subpar downloadable games.
Game Boy Color is a completely different system. Game Boy being the name of nintendo's handheld line at the time. GBA and GBA SP could all play the same games, one just happened to have a back light and better design. "New" 3ds is going to divide the market because I'm assuming that it'll play 3ds games just fine and that there's only going to be select games specifically for the "new" 3ds.
Calling it the "new" 3ds is a slap in the face of the people who are early adopters and i'd wager that you yourself haven't been playing nintendo products as long as I have because you'd probably be angry too. Nintendo has fell so far from where they were in the 90's and early 2000's. They're a shell of their former self and it's pathetic and sad. Not only were they too dumb to bring xenoblade over on the wii when NA wii supporters were clamoring for it, they now have the audacity to create a "new" 3ds that leaves millions of 3ds owners out in the cold.
There's nothing cool about this.
Spare me. I'm 29, I grew up on Nintendo consoles and handhelds.
All the DSi did was provide a camera and access to overpriced subpar downloadable games.
Game Boy Color is a completely different system. Game Boy being the name of nintendo's handheld line at the time. GBA and GBA SP could all play the same games, one just happened to have a back light and better design. "New" 3ds is going to divide the market because I'm assuming that it'll play 3ds games just fine and that there's only going to be select games specifically for the "new" 3ds.
Calling it the "new" 3ds is a slap in the face of the people who are early adopters and i'd wager that you yourself haven't been playing nintendo products as long as I have because you'd probably be angry too. Nintendo has fell so far from where they were in the 90's and early 2000's. They're a shell of their former self and it's pathetic and sad. Not only were they too dumb to bring xenoblade over on the wii when NA wii supporters were clamoring for it, they now have the audacity to create a "new" 3ds that leaves millions of 3ds owners out in the cold.
There's nothing cool about this.
Smh...Spare me. I'm 29, I grew up on Nintendo consoles and handhelds.
All the DSi did was provide a camera and access to overpriced subpar downloadable games.
Game Boy Color is a completely different system. Game Boy being the name of nintendo's handheld line at the time. GBA and GBA SP could all play the same games, one just happened to have a back light and better design. "New" 3ds is going to divide the market because I'm assuming that it'll play 3ds games just fine and that there's only going to be select games specifically for the "new" 3ds.
Calling it the "new" 3ds is a slap in the face of the people who are early adopters and i'd wager that you yourself haven't been playing nintendo products as long as I have because you'd probably be angry too. Nintendo has fell so far from where they were in the 90's and early 2000's. They're a shell of their former self and it's pathetic and sad. Not only were they too dumb to bring xenoblade over on the wii when NA wii supporters were clamoring for it, they now have the audacity to create a "new" 3ds that leaves millions of 3ds owners out in the cold.
There's nothing cool about this.
Spare me. I'm 29, I grew up on Nintendo consoles and handhelds.
All the DSi did was provide a camera and access to overpriced subpar downloadable games.
Game Boy Color is a completely different system. Game Boy being the name of nintendo's handheld line at the time. GBA and GBA SP could all play the same games, one just happened to have a back light and better design. "New" 3ds is going to divide the market because I'm assuming that it'll play 3ds games just fine and that there's only going to be select games specifically for the "new" 3ds.
Calling it the "new" 3ds is a slap in the face of the people who are early adopters and i'd wager that you yourself haven't been playing nintendo products as long as I have because you'd probably be angry too. Nintendo has fell so far from where they were in the 90's and early 2000's. They're a shell of their former self and it's pathetic and sad. Not only were they too dumb to bring xenoblade over on the wii when NA wii supporters were clamoring for it, they now have the audacity to create a "new" 3ds that leaves millions of 3ds owners out in the cold.
There's nothing cool about this.
You do understand that this is a bad example, right? The Wii version looks so bad on HDTVs because it's being upscaled. If the 3DS version is rendered at the native resolution of the 3DS screen, it should look much clearer than the Wii version does on a 1080p display.
They should have added "Really" to it.So in other words it won't divide the market because there will be very few New 3ds exclusive games while 3ds games playable on every platform will continue?
And after recognizing that it won't split the market you are left being angry purely because of the *New* moniker? How dare Nintendo put *New* in front of the 3ds name?
There was no way with the way the 3DS now that Xenoblade would be able to come to it in any presentable form. It was either this or no Xenoblade on 3DS at all. I mean, Xenoblade on new 3DS already looks really rough. Imagine if it came onto the original 3DS.
The original 3DS came out over 3 years ago, and Nintendo will still be supporting it through the new 3DS's lifetime as well. It's just that having the new 3DS allows Nintendo to also on the side develop games or entice third party developers to bring over games they wouldn't have been able to on the original 3DS.
You need to calm your ass down.
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honestly, if they would have called it something besides the "new" 3ds i'd probably be fine with all this, and I realize that sounds silly.
Native or not, 240p is still 240p. It'll look awful on the XL model and the smaller one really won't do the visuals any favors with its tiny screen and dpi.
It can't really be "clearer" because literally half the pixels are gone. It's just less stretched.
I am calm, i'm just being real. I buy the majority of nintendo products day 1 and i'm tired of nintendo being a subpar gaming company. It annoys me because I know how good nintendo can be and they aren't anymore. That's my 2 cents. I won't post anymore in here. Everyone knows how the nintendo defense force can be, you can't talk reason to them because nintendo can apparently do no wrong (that isn't a knock against you specifically btw, and I honestly mean that).
Native or not, 240p is still 240p. It'll look awful on the XL model and the smaller one really won't do the visuals any favors with its tiny screen and dpi.
It can't really be "clearer" because literally half the pixels are gone. It's just less stretched.
You do understand that this is a bad example, right? The Wii version looks so bad on HDTVs because it's being upscaled. If the 3DS version is rendered at the native resolution of the 3DS screen, it should look much clearer than the Wii version does on a 1080p display.
This image has been sitting in my 3DS SD Card since the middle of 2011. Since then it's been a dream of mine to play it on my 3DS. Sadly, it isn't the one I have now, but I'll get it regardless.
When I play a game on my 3DS, it looks clearer to me than a Wii game on any of my HD displays, despite most Wii games being 480p. It's even clearer than 720p Wii U games on my 1080p displays. Upscaling completely wrecks shit. Maybe I'm particularly sensitive to it, but unless Xenoblade is not rendering at the native resolution of the New 3DS, there is no way I would consider the Wii version to have more clarity (unless it's played on a CRT or upres'd in Dolphin).
I am calm, i'm just being real. I buy the majority of nintendo products day 1 and i'm tired of nintendo being a subpar gaming company. It annoys me because I know how good nintendo can be and they aren't anymore. That's my 2 cents. I won't post anymore in here. Everyone knows how the nintendo defense force can be, you can't talk reason to them because nintendo can apparently do no wrong (that isn't a knock against you specifically btw, and I honestly mean that). Besides, I have xenoblade on the wii and I'll have the new one on WiiU when it releases. I'm curious what other games I'll miss out on now with my 3ds because nintendo can't seem to make business decisions that make any logical sense.
and honestly, if they would have called it something besides the "new" 3ds i'd probably be fine with all this, and I realize that sounds silly. It's just seems so f*cked to me that they're just, "oh yea, here's this updated 3ds, give us your money again"
No Sir.
I am calm, i'm just being real. I buy the majority of nintendo products day 1 and i'm tired of nintendo being a subpar gaming company. It annoys me because I know how good nintendo can be and they aren't anymore. That's my 2 cents. I won't post anymore in here. Everyone knows how the nintendo defense force can be, you can't talk reason to them because nintendo can apparently do no wrong (that isn't a knock against you specifically btw, and I honestly mean that). Besides, I have xenoblade on the wii and I'll have the new one on WiiU when it releases. I'm curious what other games I'll miss out on now with my 3ds because nintendo can't seem to make business decisions that make any logical sense.
and honestly, if they would have called it something besides the "new" 3ds i'd probably be fine with all this, and I realize that sounds silly. It's just seems so f*cked to me that they're just, "oh yea, here's this updated 3ds, give us your money again"
No Sir.
Spare me. I'm 29, I grew up on Nintendo consoles and handhelds.
All the DSi did was provide a camera and access to overpriced subpar downloadable games.
Game Boy Color is a completely different system. Game Boy being the name of nintendo's handheld line at the time. GBA and GBA SP could all play the same games, one just happened to have a back light and better design. "New" 3ds is going to divide the market because I'm assuming that it'll play 3ds games just fine and that there's only going to be select games specifically for the "new" 3ds.
Calling it the "new" 3ds is a slap in the face of the people who are early adopters and i'd wager that you yourself haven't been playing nintendo products as long as I have because you'd probably be angry too. Nintendo has fell so far from where they were in the 90's and early 2000's. They're a shell of their former self and it's pathetic and sad. Not only were they too dumb to bring xenoblade over on the wii when NA wii supporters were clamoring for it, they now have the audacity to create a "new" 3ds that leaves millions of 3ds owners out in the cold.
There's nothing cool about this.
240P is clearer than 720P?
Damn, now I've truly heard it all
I'm not one for technical details so forgive me if this sounds dumb, but is that working off the assumption they're using the same assets? Can't the way they're rendered or perhaps updated in the porting process mean they're not literally missing half the pixels, but that there's just a different pixel count? I mean obviously there will be half the pixels, but I hope you understand what I'm asking.
When I play a game on my 3DS, it looks clearer to me than a Wii game on any of my HD displays, despite most Wii games being 480p. It's even clearer than 720p Wii U games on my 1080p displays. Upscaling completely wrecks shit. Maybe I'm particularly sensitive to it, but unless Xenoblade is not rendering at the native resolution of the New 3DS, there is no way I would consider the Wii version to have more clarity (unless it's played on a CRT or upres'd in Dolphin).
Dude when this releases in America it will have been 4 years since the OG 3DS.
That's 4 iphones and 4 ipads later.
It's not that big of a deal.
I can't believe people are still upset about a revision to, what will be, a 4 year old piece of hardware. I'm absolutely astonished at how poorly some on GAF are taking this whole thing. Shit, the Xbox 360 came out four years after the Xbox and people didn't cry, they were excited.
it looked way better for this on my tv.Well here's the "Wii" image brought down to 480p. Looks a lot more like the actual product on Wii.
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