Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread 14: Snake... had a hard life

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The hype is because this is more fuel on the "some characters left" fire.
Right, but why does it make anyone think there are more characters? We already knew the lock indicated more characters were left, just in a different way than we expected. We're hype just because Sakurai mentioned the lock?

#teamAlreadyKnowTheRoster
 
Worst case scenario is the ESRB video was an amalgamation of different stages of gameplay, meaning what we have is the final roster.

We have a week left so honestly, I'd rather just wait it out and see.
 
Pic of the day. This time, you can challenge every fighter in All-Star Mode from the moment you turn on the game!! This is a survival battle with limited recovery items and no option to continue. However, this mode will be incomplete until you've unlocked every fighter... Until then, you can only play against characters that are already available. This is a picture of the bottom-screen menu, with a padlock indicating that the mode is still incomplete.

yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
This just raises further questions
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The CSS in the leak is still the full roster and the shot with the lock in the All Star mode was from a separate save that didn't have all the characters unlocked.
 
#teamconfirmsnothing

ESRB likely received the full roster to assess all character visuals. Still have a hard time believing there are more prior to DLC.
 
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but...

we have a pic of all star mode that came out during a leak with a lock on it.

we have a pic today confirming that the lock does indeed mean there are more characters left to unlock.

So how does this not confirm that there are more characters to unlock?
 
Guys how is this a megaton when the leak screenshot could have shown exactly what we are seeing in the POTD right now. It was an E3 video so the screenshot could have just been taken before the whole roster was unlocked, then the next part of the video just shows the full character roster. Two screenshots in two time periods. No guarantee of secret unlockables we don't know about.
clearly somebody trying to do some viral-damage control would say

give us the screenshots of muddy mole being playable or i'll leak the wii u-exclusive dating sim mode my sources have sent me video proof of
 
I'm setting my roster expectations to low so I get to be pleasantly surprised if there are more characters in the final game than the ESRB leak revealed.
 
Pic of the day. This time, you can challenge every fighter in All-Star Mode from the moment you turn on the game!! This is a survival battle with limited recovery items and no option to continue. However, this mode will be incomplete until you've unlocked every fighter... Until then, you can only play against characters that are already available. This is a picture of the bottom-screen menu, with a padlock indicating that the mode is still incomplete.

yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Huh, I don't understand? How does it deconfirm the leak? Dr.Mario, G&W, Dark Pit, Dunk hunt, etc. Haven't been officially revealed. Those characters may be the unlockables.
 
Logic: The Lock in the Leak simply was taken before unlocking the full roster

Hype: OMG NEW CHARACTERZ CONFIRMED AHHHH ojfdmkdmfmdf....


I am going with hype despite what logic may say
 
Yeah that's exciting and that screen has no Falco so that means characters will be moved between encounters not added to the existing ones. More characters are now highly probable.

Daaaaamn.
 
Right, but why does it make anyone think there are more characters? We already knew the lock indicated more characters were left, just in a different way than we expected. We're hype just because Sakurai mentioned the lock?

#teamAlreadyKnowTheRoster

I guess because there's the possibility that the leaked All star screen with the lock came from the same save file/universe as the css that everyone had resigned to being complete.

I mean, it doesn't prove anything. Not even close. But it's nice to have even a slight possibility of mystery back rather than leak absolutists taking the fun out of speculating.

Here's to hoping this means 5 more characters
 
Was thinking the same thing. Especially if character unlocks could be tied to it.
I was kind of hoping it would mean that All-Star is a fixed length and the game randomly pick a handful for you to fight in Chronological order. It would mean keeping that clever attribute while allowing a bit of randomness every time you play it.

But the second screen appears to show every character up to 1992 so that doesn't seem to be the case.

Unless Sakurai was extremely sneaky with his image.
 
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but...

we have a pic of all star mode that came out during a leak with a lock on it.

we have a pic today confirming that the lock does indeed mean there are more characters left to unlock.

So how does this not confirm that there are more characters to unlock?
Exactly. There will be more.
 
Huh, I don't understand? How does it deconfirm the leak? Dr.Mario, G&W, Dark Pit, Dunk hunt, etc. Haven't been officially revealed. Those characters may be the unlockables.

There was a lock on the All Star mode clip in the leak.

Occam's Razor and whatnot, it's most likely that the CSS was recorded in the same file and same time as the shot of the locked All Star mode clip so MORE CHARACTERS UP IN HERE.
 
god I wish GAF still allowed GIF avatars

Huh, I don't understand? How does it deconfirm the leak? Dr.Mario, G&W, Dark Pit, Dunk hunt, etc. Haven't been officially revealed. Those characters may be the unlockables.
It doesn't disconfirm anything, it just throws (possibly foolish) doubt over whether what the ESRB video had was the complete roster or not since until now we had no clue what that lock symbol meant or if it was even a part of the original leak due to how much of a clusterfuck that was to keep track of.
 
Pic of the day. This time, you can challenge every fighter in All-Star Mode from the moment you turn on the game!! This is a survival battle with limited recovery items and no option to continue. However, this mode will be incomplete until you've unlocked every fighter... Until then, you can only play against characters that are already available. This is a picture of the bottom-screen menu, with a padlock indicating that the mode is still incomplete.

yoooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Fuck it. Takamaru, Wonder Red, Saki, Lyn, Ashley, Dark Samus, Waluigi, Ghirahim, Dillon, Phosphora, Magus, Issac confirmed. Sakurai to troll universe 2 years later by flipping switch making them all playable "just cuz".
 
So what if the ESRB is from "multiple stages" of the game? It doesn't mean the roster is finalized still. Hell, the fact that the ESRB version still is "ufninished" regardless means there could be more.

If anything, it being an ESRB pic means there's more to it to go from since ESRB rarely if it ever gets a finished product.
 
Jokes aside, I dig that you fight each character by the year they came out, and not each franchise the year it debuted. You can see that when Peach and Bowser come after Mac, or Zero Suit Samus or Ike/Robin not being next to Samus/Marth in the 'defeated characters' screen. Makes All-Star's mode less repetitive than it got in Brawl, if even by a little bit.
Isn't this method actually more repetitive than Brawl? Since obviously the characters debuts stay the same so the order is always constant, whereas in Brawl, the series were in order, but the characters in the series were random (ie one round in Brawl you could face Mario, Luigi, Peach, then Bowser in the Mario section, then the next, you could fight Luigi, Bowser, Peach, then Mario. In Smash 4 it would just be the same every time, provided you have all of the characters unlocked).

Not sure though.
 
Not getting my hopes up. I've already accepted the loss of Ice Climbers, Wolf, Mewtwo, Lucas, and Chorus Kids. I don't want to get my hopes up again only for them to come crashing down. =/
 
So what if the ESRB is from "multiple stages" of the game? It doesn't mean the roster is finalized still. Hell, the fact that the ESRB version still is "ufninished" regardless means there could be more.

If anything, it being an ESRB pic means there's more to it to go from since ESRB rarely if it ever gets a finished product.

I say this pretty much constantly but nobody really listens
 
Maybe I am misunderstanding, but...

we have a pic of all star mode that came out during a leak with a lock on it.

we have a pic today confirming that the lock does indeed mean there are more characters left to unlock.

So how does this not confirm that there are more characters to unlock?
It was already assumed that the lock icon there meant All Star wasn't playable yet because not all characters were unlocked. This was never in question. It turned out to be less than accurate, but the implication for characters is the same as ever: in that screenshot, not all were unlocked. No change there tonight.

It does not mean more characters. The ESRB video seems to be a compilation video, rather than one continuous capture. In the trophy screenshots, one shows the player having 11 trophies, while the others show the player having unlocked 600-some trophies. We don't know that there's any real connection between the screen with the all star lock and the CSS we saw. I feel like there's no reason the ESRB would be shown an almost complete roster.
 
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