Persona 5 also launching on PS4, releasing 2015 ["waifu"/"husbando" crap = ban]

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If the Tales team can manage a simultaneous release for Tales of Zestiria, then I don't see why Atlus couldn't manage to do the same with P5. It would be sweet if we did because then the chance of spoilers coming from Japan would be eliminated.

Europe would still get the shaft tho.

IIRC they were aiming for a few months (around six or so IIRC, at the most within the year) since they weren't starting the localization coding until then.

(Wouldn't be shocked if they started on the translation + VA work before the Japanese release, though, to get that part out of the way.)
 
Because P4 is massively popular, even more so than P3 from what I've seen, in the fan community. Assuming the devs aren't stupid, they'd cash in on that as much as possible. The only thing that's noticeably similar to P3 based on the teaser movie we saw is just the setting and the color palette. It doesn't really speak to the characters or the story which is at the heart of the differences between P3 and P4.

I'm one of the folks who thinks the fundamental differences in P4's story from P3's are a welcome change. P4's is more inviting and its beginning is rooted down to earth with a student transferring to the countryside while he's hallucinating images of a woman being assaulted - which is what kicks off the mystery narrative for us players and ultimately segues into the backbone of the game: solving a string of murders.

P3's, after getting into a grove once a robot, a dog, 30-year olds who are trying hard to sound like kids, and a bunch of other privileged kids living in a private dorm settled into its narrative, is also well done. However, I think the beginning is rockier than a mountain trail with its bait and switch of a girl we soon learn is Yukari pointing a gun (Evoker) to her head. Then we have our coffins and blood streaming down the streets. Things get piss darker than the sky. Yet, us players suspend our questions about what's going on to go on dates and to get into crazy antics with your teammates.

Also, far more succintly, the Persona 4 OST makes the P3 OST sound like hot garbage.
 
It's not early 2015 anymore, it's just 2015 now.

It was originally Winter 2014. Still, there is a really good chance that they'll have the game at TGS. The game has to be pretty close to completion at this point based on how long this thing has most likely been in development.

Now I wonder if the PS4 version push the game back that far or was their original release timeframe was a tad too generous?
 
I can accept some criticisms but to say the P4 OST is better than P3's blows my mind. Hell no. The main world theme of P4 during sunny daytime might be the worst part of the game, for just one example.
 
This guy just implied that p3 OST is hot garbage. Does everyone have their pitchforks and torches ready?

P4 OST > P3 OST

Both are great, but the majority of the songs from P4 stuck with me longer and were more memorable. Neither had OSTs anything close to the level of hot garbage.
 
What part of "We don't care about other SMT games" don't you understand? All Persona fans aren't SMT fans.

Play different video games instead I suppose. Your willful ignorance isn't going to change the reality of the history of Persona, why it exists, and how it has rather explicit place in the Megaten world. They're never going to take the series out of a highschool setting.
 
P4 OST > P3 OST

Both are great, but the majority of the songs from P4 stuck with me longer and were more memorable. Neither had OSTs anything close to the level of hot garbage.

I consider both to be god tier game music. Maybe I just like that kind of music a lot though. Also the guy who said sunny day p4 theme was crap; I think it was great. It fit the tone of a sunny day perfectly. I even listen to it in my car when it's a hot day.
 
If I weren't behind a firewall, I'd provide examples through Youtube.

Save for a handful of songs (not even Burn My Dread because those lyrics are hilariously awful when the rap comes in), P3's OST 'may' not be hot garbage (I got excited), but it's nowhere as good as P4s.
 
Play different video games instead I suppose. Your willful ignorance isn't going to change the reality of the history of Persona, why it exists, and how it has rather explicit place in the Megaten world. They're never going to take the series out of a highschool setting.

The reality here is that we want Persona 5 to be a bit more like Persona 3, and it looks like it's happening. Being in a highschool setting or not has nothing to do with it.
 
The reality here is that we want Persona 5 to be a bit more like Persona 3, and it looks like it's happening.

What are these differences?

I can keep spouting stuff about grimdark all day, but I'm hoping that's not the difference you and others are seeking. Because, again, that grimdark stuff is borderline embarassing to witness.
 
I didn't do this either though. You'd benefit from reading the post, which - regardless of my edit - is contained in your quote.

uh ok then

Play different video games instead I suppose. Your willful ignorance isn't going to change the reality of the history of Persona, why it exists, and how it has rather explicit place in the Megaten world. They're never going to take the series out of a highschool setting.

except he never asked to take it out of a highschool setting. he asked for it to adopt a more serious tone. yet, again, you conflate this with taking it out of a high school setting, despite your assertion that it was my reading comprehension that was at fault
 
Also the popularity of P3 and P4 is based more on time of release and accumulated interest in the series and less to do with overall designs of the games.

Trying to mimic past successes in order to draw in a userbase is not a bad strategy, but can hurt your creative development. I really do not want a Persona 3 or Persona 4 v2. It's best not to pull too much from either game and create something entirely unique.

Otherwise you fall into the trap of releasing the same type of game over and over. I hope Persona 5, when it releases, can stand alone and not be called "Persona 3 successor"...

How dare you

Da fuq m8

Extremely high pitched and annoying sounding song!

I'd rather have a soft and lovely tune like Want to Be Close without any reservation. Listen to how catchy this is.
 
Because P4 is massively popular, even more so than P3 from what I've seen, in the fan community. Assuming the devs aren't stupid, they'd cash in on that as much as possible. The only thing that's noticeably similar to P3 based on the teaser movie we saw is just the setting and the color palette. It doesn't really speak to the characters or the story which is at the heart of the differences between P3 and P4.

I've always thought P4 was more popular due it being current and the dominant series in the spin offs. I remember a Persona thread were quite a lot if the majority on gaf where saying they preferred Persona 3.

I'm with you though. I just have a feeling P5 will be more like P3. That the story will be more involved with the public, the game will have a darker atmosphere and there will be much more at stake initially.
 
What are these differences?

I can keep spouting stuff about grimdark all day, but I'm hoping that's not the difference you and others are seeking. Because, again, that grimdark stuff is borderline embarassing to witness.

I'm not asking Persona 3 levels of grim. Persona 4 had a few things that I wouldn't like to see in Persona 5. I think I quoted those things in the previous page. Whatever middle ground Atlus is preparing, it's going to be good.
 
Also the popularity of P3 and P4 is based more on time of release and accumulated interest in the series and less to do with overall designs of the games.

Trying to mimic past successes in order to draw in a userbase is not a bad strategy, but can hurt your creative development. I really do not want a Persona 3 or Persona 4 v2. It's best not to pull too much from either game and create something entirely unique.

Otherwise you fall into the trap of releasing the same type of game over and over. I hope Persona 5, when it releases, can stand alone and not be called "Persona 3 successor"...

I agree fullheartedly. I want P5 to be its own thing and not deriving from what made the foundations of 3 and 4. Yeah, improve upon what the previous two had going on (such as combat, social links, activities, etc), but P5 should have its own identity. No going grimdark for the sake of P3 or going for a more light-hearted foundation simply for being like P4.
 
I'm excited for the PS4 version, but holding my reservations on any type of real visual improvement other than the resolution being 1080p.

I haven't played Persona 3. For those who have, which version do you recommend? Would P3P be fine?
 
Still keeping my PS3 for this. not going to buy a PS4 for (hopefully optimized) last-gen ports. It is nice more people will get to play it though, no doubt!

The main world theme of P4 during sunny daytime might be the worst part of the game, for just one example.

So opinions CAN be objectively false. Good to know.
You're joking, right? Right...?
 
I'm excited for the PS4 version, but holding my reservations on any type of real visual improvement other than the resolution being 1080p.

I haven't played Persona 3. For those who have, which version do you recommend? Would P3P be fine?

I'd like to know this as well. From what I know of P3P, FES has more staying power.
 
I'm excited for the PS4 version, but holding my reservations on any type of real visual improvement other than the resolution being 1080p.

I haven't played Persona 3. For those who have, which version do you recommend? Would P3P be fine?

I tried P3P, but I couldn't get past the fact that you can't walk around outside of the dungeon

I enjoyed P3 FES more, and I didn't mind the fact that you can't control your party members
 
I loved the setting of 4 more than 3 and I loved the interactions of the characters in 4 more than 3.

I would love it if this game had the party members be more close friends like 2 and 4 rather than the casual acquaintances that grew to being kinda friends like 3.

I loved in events seeing weird combos of people in the party hanging out in Junes or whatever in P4, it added more to "hey, these guys are actually friends now" since we've been jumping into tvs, saving each others lives, and repeating together.
 
I'm excited for the PS4 version, but holding my reservations on any type of real visual improvement other than the resolution being 1080p.

I haven't played Persona 3. For those who have, which version do you recommend? Would P3P be fine?

P3P has the optional female MC and a more simplistic overworld with just icons for points of interest in each area. No cut scenes or in game character animations at all. Feels much more like a VN here. Good for on the go if you need it. Plus, you have the option to control all of your party members in combat and not just the MC.

FES has all of the character animations and interactions and cut scenes included. I ended up playing this and it feels like the better version of the game. Only big issue is getting over AI controlled party members.

*Insert Marin Karin joke here*
 
I'm excited for the PS4 version, but holding my reservations on any type of real visual improvement other than the resolution being 1080p.

I haven't played Persona 3. For those who have, which version do you recommend? Would P3P be fine?

In all honesty, I don't expect there to be any major visual improvements, but that doesn't bother me. Even if it's just for the resolution, I want to make sure I experience this game via the best version available.

As for P3, I played FES and found it to be great. I'd definitely recommend it.
 
Because it wouldn't make sense when there are other games in the Megaten universe/series that already do what other people are asking for?

But Persona is much more story and character-driven than SMT (out of the ones I've played), so I'm not sure why "SMT has adults" means we shouldn't get that opportunity with Persona. Catherine showed that Atlus could pull off an adult, social-oriented game. I guess they don't want to take a chance with their cash cow, but it just seems creatively limiting to keep drawing from the same well.

I'm sure I'll play P5, but I do find it harder to care about the high school mentality as I get older. It would be cool to have a Persona sequel or spin-off game that follows a Persona cast into adulthood.
 
P3P has the optional female MC and a more simplistic overworld with just icons for points of interest in each area. No cut scenes or in game character animations at all. Feels much more like a VN here. Good for on the go if you need it. Plus, you have the option to control all of your party members in combat and not just the MC.

FES has all of the character animations and interactions and cut scenes included. I ended up playing this and it feels like the better version of the game. Only big issue is getting over AI controlled party members.

*Insert Marin Karin joke here*

Did you end up playing The Answer? After finishing The Journey, I couldn't bring myself to do it.
 
Did you end up playing The Answer? After finishing The Journey, I couldn't bring myself to do it.

I bought FES thinking The Answer was a full sequel -- I could not have been more wrong. Just endless dungeons with a character's ending at the end of each one. I forced myself to finish it, but if I had known prior to buying I would've just YT'd the endings.

I should go back and play the FES version of P3 though; never did that.

Persona 2: Eternal Punishment's cast was mainly composed of adults.

Really? I guess I should check that one out.
 
All I want to say is that I love the mod who decided that talking shit like "Oh, mah waifu" is ban worthy.

PS3, PS4, I don't care, I have both.
 
Did you end up playing The Answer? After finishing The Journey, I couldn't bring myself to do it.

The Answer is... Awful. It really highlights the weakness of the random dungeons in Persona 3, because they're not being broken up by bits of story at your pace: Instead, you have to make enough progress within the dungeon areas in order to get your fix.

It's a simple change, but drastically alters the way you approach the game. Before, if you didn't feel like handling Tartarus, you could always do a week of Social Links or something. As long as you kept an eye on the full moon and made sure to get to each sealed section before the full moon rolled around, you were good to go. Dictating the pace of the dungeon crawling made the repetition a lot more bearable.

Also, Aigis is a lot more aggravating as a main character. A lot more.
 
I agree fullheartedly. I want P5 to be its own thing and not deriving from what made the foundations of 3 and 4. Yeah, improve upon what the previous two had going on (such as combat, social links, activities, etc), but P5 should have its own identity. No going grimdark for the sake of P3 or going for a more light-hearted foundation simply for being like P4.
I don't think it's going to be as dark as Persona 3 after the success of 4, but I can see it being somewhere in between.
 
I'm one of the folks who thinks the fundamental differences in P4's story from P3's are a welcome change. P4's is more inviting and its beginning is rooted down to earth with a student transferring to the countryside while he's hallucinating images of a woman being assaulted - which is what kicks off the mystery narrative for us players and ultimately segues into the backbone of the game: solving a string of murders.

P3's, after getting into a grove once a robot, a dog, 30-year olds who are trying hard to sound like kids, and a bunch of other privileged kids living in a private dorm settled into its narrative, is also well done. However, I think the beginning is rockier than a mountain trail with its bait and switch of a girl we soon learn is Yukari pointing a gun (Evoker) to her head. Then we have our coffins and blood streaming down the streets. Things get piss darker than the sky. Yet, us players suspend our questions about what's going on to go on dates and to get into crazy antics with your teammates.

Also, far more succintly, the Persona 4 OST makes the P3 OST sound like hot garbage.

I think the fundamental difference between P3 and P4 exists not in the actual scenario but how it's handled and portrayed. P3 has a much more grounded perspective in its characters and setting despite being quite fantasy with it, what with intelligent persona-using dogs, robots, and all that. Where P4 has a very exaggerated, almost fantasy feel despite the very plain setting.

The characters in P4, in particular, are much more caricature than P3's as a result of this take on the formula. Another way of looking at it would be that P3 feels like they build into a trope/archetype where P4 feels like it's built from one. As a result, the interactions are much more distilled, almost formulaic in a way as you see them unfold in P4.

To put it more succinctly and if you're looking for caffeine, P3 is coffee and P4 is expresso. Both have it in spades but one is more of a straight dose.

This guy just implied that p3 OST is hot garbage. Does everyone have their pitchforks and torches ready?

I do.

I've always thought P4 was more popular due it being current and the dominant series in the spin offs. I remember a Persona thread were quite a lot if the majority on gaf where saying they preferred Persona 3.

I'm with you though. I just have a feeling P5 will be more like P3. That the story will be more involved with the public, the game will have a darker atmosphere and there will be much more at stake initially.

It's partially more popular because it's the latest one and it had a fanbase built upon it but I think that it's still the more popular of the 2 regardless of that fact. I think it hits the spots that tickle the more voracious fans out there currently.
 
Did you end up playing The Answer? After finishing The Journey, I couldn't bring myself to do it.

I haven't finished it yet. Interested in the story, but I'm not the biggest fan of just straight dungeon crawls. Tbh, Tartarus was a low point for me of P3 because of how repetitive it was. Thinking The Answer is more of the same hasn't motivated me to finish it.
 
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