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[brochiller]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTYpKlIc_fg

Wow. Everyone needs to see this. Amazing work.

 

[PadWarrior]

Yes? It's in the tweet there.

I clicked it said page can't be found

 

[Pikma]

D L C!!!!!!!
My god that shit's hilarious

 

[IntelliHeath]

And some Palutena impressions: https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508363249738584064

So no dark alt for Palutena so I wonder if it meant anything for Medusa?

 

[Vashzaron]

I clicked it said page can't be found

@xD1x she has the same color alts as pit Meta knight sucks, has the galacta knight and dark meta knight alts and up air has cool down

Further confirmation if it's just a pure color swap or model changes would be nice tho.

 

[OricWindstar]

Agreed. He is about to try out Dedede and Luigi

I am curious to see how Luigi is in this game. Has there ever been a badass Luigi in the competitive scene?

 

[theprodigy]

Awwww... I was hoping he wouldn't get struck too hard by the nerf bat.

But it's still a bit early to be saying this. Falco completely changed between Melee and Brawl and wound up top-tier in both games.

or alternatively, pre-release Brawl Meta Knight
(but yeah Falco too for how a drastic overhaul in playstyle doesn't necessarily mean doom)

 

[Ahnez]

Dont worry Meta Knight, they will find a way to make you broken again

 

[Axass]

If the total # of characters is 48...
12 DLC characters. 60 total. Would launch with a final series of amiibo.

/dreams

01. Ice Climbers
02. Wolf
03. Lucas
04. Snake
05. Ridley
06. Isaac
07. Dixie Kong
08. Chorus Kids
09. King K. Rool
10. Paper Mario
11. Squirtle
12. Mewtwo

...sorry Ivysaur no more space.

 

[Toxi]

The funniest thing about the Kirby nerf from 64 to Melee is that Pikachu actually turned out okay.

 

[Hyperactivity]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTYpKlIc_fg

I remember this

 

[The Great Gonzales]

I am curious to see how Luigi is in this game. Has there ever been a badass Luigi in the competitive scene?

ZaHiro86 said this on his AMA:

Luigi's down b seems even crazier. He seemed stronger but I don't know many specifics. I saw a Mario do an uair into a nair almost immediately though

And just from what I saw in the E3 demo (I didn't play it, mind you, I just saw whatever videos were uploaded to YouTube,) it looks like his dash attack has been buffed: it seems to trap people more easily than it did in Brawl, only knocking them away in the final hit.

 

[SuperSah]

even better

Spoiler

i actually just found this a few minutes ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCykBrGxfRk

Looks easy to see to me!

 

[TheChits]

Year of Luigi let's go
https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508368589947432961

 

[Hyperactivity]

1. Isaac
2. Amaterasu
3. Ridley
4. Lyndis
5. Mewtwo
6. Ice Climbers
7. King K. Rool
8. Mach Rider
9. Snake
10. Sceptile
11. Dixie
12. Wolf

Are you me?!

Seriously, those two, Isa/Saki/Kachi, and Quote are my top 5

Only one of them has some realistic minuscule chance to get in though (Isaac),

Spoiler

although he's getting in for this game damnit

 

[Blizzard]

Google Doc I found on Reddit with a summary of stuff

I could of sworn I read somewhere Pikachu had his party hat back. Oh well

Wait, so pikachu DOESN'T have the wizard/party hat back? Or is it still up in the air?

 

[Revven]

Year of Luigi let's go
https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508368589947432961

YOOO LUIGI KEPT HIS THROW COMBOS, AAWWWW YEAH.

 

[The Great Gonzales]

Year of Luigi let's go
https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508368589947432961

I'd like to know what he means when he says Luigi's dash attack is "worse than E3's."

 

[Cody_D165]

WEEGEE HYPE

 

[k_Reign]

I'd like to know what he means when he says Luigi's dash attack is "worse than E3's."

He means that Luigi's dash attack is better than E3's dash attack.

(ѵ• ヮ•)ѵ

 

[Revven]

DDD impressions:

dedede has been buffed, down throw seems to have set knock back, up tilt is stronger and down smash kills at lower percent.

https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508368229136629761

d3s side b goes through jabs but tilts and smash attacks send them back down b is strong but still hard to pull off

https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508368398959788032

Utilt being stronger is kind of insane, it was already strong in Brawl... maybe it's because of the larger ceiling they buffed it? Down B still kind of being useless doesn't surprise me. :/

 

[The Great Gonzales]

He means that Luigi's dash attack is better than E3's dash attack.

(ѵ• ヮ•)ѵ

-_-

I mean how specifically is it worse? What's changed?

 

[Vashzaron]

Further confirmation if it's just a pure color swap or model changes would be nice tho.

I asked on twitch if galacta knight is a model change or just color and he says it's a "full alt."

 

[k_Reign]

-_-

I mean how specifically is it worse? What's changed?

I was making a joke about E3 itself having a dash attack.

Maybe he means that it does less damage or more/less knockback?

 

[OricWindstar]

I asked on twitch if galacta knight is a model change or just color and he says it's a "full alt."

Oh, so the wings change? That's awesome.

 

[Ahnez]

I asked on twitch if galacta knight is a model change or just color and he says it's a "full alt."

So, the sword becomes a spear?

 

[Revven]

So, the sword becomes a spear?

That... probably doesn't happen, spear wouldn't work with his hitboxes and everything.

 

[Vashzaron]

So, the sword becomes a spear?

No on twitch he mentions Meta Knight's sword is kept.

 

[Berordn]

That... probably doesn't happen, spear wouldn't work with his hitboxes and everything.

Galacta Knight's spear is PUNY.

 

[EndlessSky]

Has this been discussed before? What do you guys think Shulk's neutral b (or whatever button changes his stances) custom moves will be? Do you think each variation of it will just change the order in which you shuffle them? I really can't imagine what they would do with it.

 

[Kyzon]

Both of you got a good point there but I'm concerned that it might become mess if they are trying everything at once.

It won't. We found out gems were bullshit very quickly in SFxT using this method.
The same can be done with smash.

 

[IntelliHeath]

Year of Luigi let's go
https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508368589947432961

Heck yeah!

 

[MrSaturn99]

DDD impressions:



https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508368229136629761



https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508368398959788032

awwwww yeaaahhh

 

[The Great Gonzales]

Galacta Knight's spear is PUNY.

It would look super weird to have him swinging a spear like it was a sword, though.

I was making a joke about E3 itself having a dash attack.

Maybe he means that it does less damage or more/less knockback?

...I should have seen that. Sorry, I'm dumb.

If that's true, it's a weird nerf. I know the Treehouse people were asking for feedback at E3, but I can't imagine tons of people were complaining about how OP Luigi's dash attack was.

 

[Ahnez]

No on twitch he mentions Meta Knight's sword is kept.

Oh

 

[ffdgh]

I wasn't expecting this smash stream to have such interesting fanfiction...

 

[Hyperactivity]

About Link's recovery compared to past games

A. Maze. Ing. Covers more distance and tether is faster. He may not be PM good, but link got dem buffs.

About blue fire Ike and tasty abs, then in regards to palette swaps

Yes and delectable. No real changes. Alt colors are SICK.


There's one that makes it look like he's dressed in onyx armor. Lots of his alts from brawl just look better now with his new dsign

What happens with Ike side-b in air and if it leads into a helpless state

yea, I can't even up b after it like fox can

About mentioned Charizard buffs

fair is now his claws, so super sped up. Forward B is awesome though I doubt we'll see it in 1v1 too often, it has insane knockback. Deals self damage on startup and then 10% on contact. jab has improved in range and speed

About move being Flare Blitz

Yupp, that's exactly what it is. Same animation as XY

About Greninja and Pikachu

You posted this right before I took a break so I felt guilty lol. But I'm happy I can do something like this, always been a dream of mine
he's insane. Shadow sneak is hilarious and fun. His circle shadow is wht you move and pop out of so it's hard to see on the original 3DS's screen tho. He's fast and his smashes (especially up smash) are all good kill moves. I also got a spike with his dair, but it's a divekick so be careful
I did not, but Zipzo's friend played him quite a bit. I got thundered by a pikachu during an aether tho which was unexpected

YOOO

 

[JazzmanZ]

Galactaknight is still a thing? and full alt?

ay yeeeaaa

 

[Berordn]

It would look super weird to have him swinging a spear like it was a sword, though.

I mean, Galacta Knight already does that.

 

[chaosblade]

I wasn't expecting this smash stream to have such interesting fanfiction...

I know right, it's so bad. And it just keeps going. And going.


That eyes comment. The chat was just like wat.

 

[Revven]

If that's true, it's a weird nerf. I know the Treehouse people were asking for feedback at E3, but I can't imagine tons of people were complaining about how OP Luigi's dash attack was.

It could just be worse by the dev team's own testing or something -- as in, it wasn't any public feedback that got it changed but internal feedback. Or, maybe something about the engine changed with regards to DI/SDI between the E3 build and the retail release.

I guess we won't get much explanation about how it's nerfed right now until next weekend.

 

[OricWindstar]

Those Link buffs sound awesome! I really hope he's more viable this time around.

 

[MisterLuffy]

Any Rosalina impression?

 

[Immaculate]

So with shulks neutral b hes gonna say what buff hes using right?

 

[Revven]

More character impressions:

Marth and sonic have no ko moves. Marth killed Kirby with tipper f smash at 125% and sonic kills with up throw spring up throw at 100

https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508372445792047104

Marths tilts are like melees, but you can only rack up 3 hits in a row max for about 18%. Sonic seems slower and has one good aerial.

https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508372775745368064

(on Marth Dtilt):

down tilt is nerfed also it has less range than megamans slide

https://twitter.com/WeinhofferBen/status/508373623003181056

R.I.P Marth (although, Fsmash tipper at 125% isn't bad IF it's from the middle of, say, FD or Battlefield -- I should preface I'm not being serious in general though loool).

 

[Lunar15]

Stinks that Ike sounds about the same. I think Sakurai views him as an FFA player, and that's about it. Oh well! Excited to see his alts. An "onyx" colored alt makes me think it's a Black Knight themed colorset.

 

[ffdgh]

Say it isn't so Marth! Also I really hope sonic has some kill potential =/

 

[PadWarrior]

I need mario impressions and colors

 

[NotLiquid]

Marth and sonic have no ko moves.

Goddammit Sakurai

I wanted to forgive you for screwing him up in Brawl due to time constraints but did you really not learn anything since then

Sonic still not being able to KO stings so much

 

[OmegaSmash]

Sonic still can't kill? Fuck off Sakurai ;_;