Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition

Okay, large post incoming!

Some of you might remember that, a little over a month ago, I did a for-fun thing where I counted all the times each character has appeared in the Pics of the Day and listed those totals here. I said I'd update the totals in a month, but instead of doing that, I actually decided to scrap the whole thing and go bigger: count the times each character has appeared in the Pics of the Day plus the pics on each character page and the pics on the rest of the website, like in the How to Play, Assist Trophy, Pokémon, etc. sections.

It's been fairly time-consuming and I've had to chip away at it around work, but I'm finally finished! So without further ado, I present to you a list that will answer all-important questions like "How much does Sakurai love or hate my favorite character?" and "Does 'Sakurai bias' exist, and if so, how severe is it?"

Disclaimer: This list does not actually answer those questions and is just for fun. But I can tell you the answer to the second question right here: no, it does not. :P
Something I found a bit weird: The majority of times Mario, Samus, and Bowser appear, they're getting the shit kicked out of them. It's a really noticeable trend in the early PotDs.

Edit: Forgot Donkey Kong. He also seems to be part of the loser league.
 
Even without that many games, there's not much competition from any other series in terms of Nintendo importance (other than Pokemon, which is second party).

you do know that 2nd party is just a colloquial term and actually holds no weight since in actuality they count as 1st party right?
 
Mario: 144 (!)
Link: 88
Samus: 85
Kirby: 74
Mega Man: 73
Villager: 68
Donkey Kong: 60
Pikachu: 58
Wii Fit Trainer: 55
Bowser: 54
Fox: 53
Mii Fighters: 49
Luigi: 45
Pit: 43
Toon Link: 37
Peach: 36
Marth: 35
Sonic: 34
Olimar & Pikmin: 33
King Dedede: 30
Little Mac: 29
Rosalina & Luma: 29
Yoshi: 29
Zelda: 26
Diddy Kong: 25
Zero Suit Samus: 23
Ike: 22
Lucario: 19
Robin: 19
Charizard: 18
Pac-Man: 18
Sheik: 18
Greninja: 17
Palutena: 17
Captain Falcon: 16
Lucina: 15
Meta Knight: 15
Shulk: 15

So going by sales numbers, Sakurai seems to have a pro-Metroid bias and an anti-Pokemon bias!
That's how this works, right guys?! lol

Also, thanks for doing this, Ash!
 
When Wii was announced, first games named were "next generation versions of Mario and Zelda" and "big plans for Metroid".

...Probably because Kirby is a handheld-dominant franchise?

They didn't mention Pokemon; Pokemon not important to Nintendo confirmed.
 
Villager: 68

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Even if smash 3DS isn't the best smash bros, It'll very likely be the best handheld fighter, that's for sure. Nothing else on a handheld has the ease of access like smash bros. Nothing else has as much single player content (both in length and variety). Unless you're a super fan of a particular fighting game that happened to get a handheld version, I think you'll prefer smash over the rest.

I mean, almost every fighting game for handhelds are just a PORT, not a version designed for the ground up (in parallel with wii u, of course) for the handheld.
 
I don't agree. Sales != Importance.

When Wii was announced, first games named were "next generation versions of Mario and Zelda" and "big plans for Metroid".

Only to a certain audience.

Besides Pokemon, I feel that Animal Crossing and Donkey Kong have both surpassed Metroid in importance. imo of course.
 
Thanks for taking the time to count it up Ash. The results are pretty interesting, Mario led by a lot more than I would have thought. I'm fairly surprised that Mega Man made the top 5.

Also
Ness: 0 :(
 
Oh my! that's the final boss from the Miku occulus rift game :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne7a6uMRdHs (shadow miku is at 3:15)
If I had an occulus and this game I would play it every day and probably never get tired
until maybe a month into it

Okay, large post incoming!
Rosalina & Luma: 29
Palutena: 17
Lucina: 15

Just look at all that Sakurai bias: Kirby at #4 and Pit at #14, despite the fact that they were both part of the initial announcement! </s>
Mario can eff off! >:x

I would rather have Gumi
She'll be an alt along with Luka.

Guys...let's just get a Hatsune Miku fighting game. I will put down twenty american dollars to get this started.
I would like to see this happen lol
 
Even if smash 3DS isn't the best smash bros, It'll very likely be the best handheld fighter, that's for sure. Nothing else on a handheld has the ease of access like smash bros. Nothing else has as much single player content (both in length and variety). Unless you're a super fan of a particular fighting game that happened to get a handheld version, I think you'll prefer smash over the rest.

I mean, almost every fighting game for handhelds are just a PORT, not a version designed for the ground up (in parallel with wii u, of course) for the handheld.

Jump Ultimate Stars would like a word with you, that's always been IMO the best portable fighting game ever. Had a huge single player campaign and a lot of variety with it's koma system.
 
At first I thought this was real, then I realized it was fake, but then I understood it to be real. Brb, gonna post it on Gamefaqs.
I dunno... I don't want it to spread too far in case the ghost gets in trouble. Don't want nintendo calling Luigi to the venue and vacuuming it up :o
 
So on the WiiU version, how many remixes of the brawl theme will there be? Brawl included mostly all of Melees main theme mixes, but Brawls were like 45 versions of the act same song. Will they include all of these?

I kind of like the brawl theme though. Not as much as any of the other smash themes, but it was good. Just overused.
 
Mario: Played every mainline entry to their completion and I love them all. Played most of the spinoffs too.
Yoshi: Finished Yoshi's Island, one of the best games on the SNES. Also liked Yoshi's Story and Yoshi's New Island more than most. I'm a fan.
Wario: Played every Wario game besides 4, the DS game, Wario World and the Wii one. Wario Land 3 is my top GBC game that isn't called Pokemon. LOVE that game. Also finished every Wario Ware besides Twisted, which I just picked up and can't wait to get into. Those games are pure genius.
Mr Game & Watch: Unfortunately, I've never held a Game and Watch, and haven't gotten to any of the various Game and Watch Collections. Rest assured, they are on The List.
Donkey Kong: Completed every mainline Donkey Kong platformer besides 3, which I will get to soon. I love the hell out of them, even DK64. I like collecting stuff. It's fun. DKC2 has one of the greatest soundtracks of all time.
Zelda: My favorite video game series of all time. Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time are my top two games of all time. The only mainline Zeldas I haven't played to completion are Oracle of Ages, Spirit Tracks, and Phantom Hourglass, which I'm playing through right now.
Metroid: Played and completed every Metroid besides Prime 2 and 3. I played Super Metroid for the first time in 2013, and by the time I was finished, there was no doubt in my mind that it was one of the top 10 greatest games I've ever played. I didn't think any game would crack that top 10, but Super Metroid did.
Kid Icarus: Haven't played the NES or GB game, but enjoyed the hell out of Kid Icarus Uprising. Some of the best voice acting in a Nintendo game, ever.
Fire Emblem: Only played Awakening, but I LOVED it and I look forward to playing through the rest of the series.
Kirby: I've completed most of the Kirby platformers and enjoyed all of them.
Little Mac: Played Punch Out for NES. Couldn't beat Mike Tyson. Fun game but I didn't think it was that great. Awesome soundtrack, though. I really want to play the Wii game.
Fox: Completed every Star Fox besides Assault and Command. Star Fox 64 has the best voice acting in a Nintendo game, period.
Pokemon: Played the living hell out of every mainline game, and most of the spinoffs. I'm kinda obsessed.
Duck Hunt: I've never actually owned Duck Hunt, but I've played it on various friends and family's homes on their NES. Fun game.
ROB: Never played Gyromite. I love ROB in Mario Kart DS, though ^_^
Mother: My Nintendo shame! I've never played any Mother game besides Earthbound, which I've played for about 20 minutes. I'll get to them, I swear ; _ ;
F-Zero: Completed all of them besides the GBA games. F-Zero and X are good games, but GX is one of the greatest racing games of all time, period. Playing the same stage in story mode over and over and over and over and over never felt so good.
Animal Crossing: Played the 3DS game, and really enjoyed it for the month I actually stuck with the whole routine.
Pikmin: Played through all three, love all three.
Wii Fit: Never played, never will.
Dr Mario: I've played it on NES.
Xenoblade: Played and completed it a couple of weeks ago. Fucking great game, so happy to see Shulk in Smash.
Pac-man: Played the living hell out of the classic arcade games at actual arcades/pizza parlours. Also, Namco Museum on various Nintendo consoles.
Megaman: Played and completed every NES Megaman. And 9. And 10. And X... I've played a lot of Megaman games. One of my favorite video games series.
Sonic: Played and completed every mainline Sonic game besides a couple of the Wii games and Lost World. The classic Sonic trilogy are three of my favorite games of all time. Infinitely replayable, and some of the best video game music ever.
 
Seems not many biters for the avatar bet, so I'm just creating a list of people, i general.

If you still want in on the avatar betting portion, let me know, and i'll put a note next to your name.


NEOGAF Leak Day predictions (Japan Time) - PM if you wanna do avatar bet or if I miss your name)

Tuesday Leak
  • Makai (avatar bet, but must have his meat in it - not my words)
Wednesday Leak
  • MaverickHunterash
  • Letterbomb (avatar bet)
  • TreIII
Thursday Leak
  • georly (avatar bet)
  • munchie64 (avatar bet)
  • Captainbojanglesiii
  • SUPERJEM94
  • johnbone
Friday Leak
  • Kensho

If you want to avatar bet for added fun, the rules are as follows:
  • Pick a day, japan time (right now, it's Tuesday ~12PM), so Tue, Wed, Thur, Fri - saturday is too late (It's out!!)
  • If the game leaks on your day, you win, and get to help in assigning avatars for everyone else.
  • If the game leaks and it's NOT your day (you choose Tue, it leaks Thur), then AS SOON AS IT LEAKS (not sooner, so if you choose tue, and it leaks thur, you don't lose until it leaks on thur), you lose your avatar.
  • If the game DOES NOT LEAK (releases sat) nobody wins or loses.
  • You wear the new avatar until ONE WEEK FROM THE LEAK DAY.
Hijacking this to remind anyone that has a japanese 3ds, if they wanna swap friend codes, please PM me.
 
nice to see somebody else import physical :)

I would like to get physical, but I'd rather get it earlier. I'll be getting the physical localized version, though.
 
Glad so many people seem to be enjoying my PotD/website pic character counts! It was fun to do, and I'll still be updating the results every so often. :)

You do write about video games for a living, right?
Smash Bros. in your free time, Smash Bros. when you're working. That's a pretty awesome life.

For a living? No, not really. I've always ever done game journalism on the side because I'm passionate about games; it just so happens that I've had a fair degree of success with it, plus it's a good way to get my name out there and build my resume. I've never seriously tried to make it into one of the big outlets (IGN, GameSpot, etc.), though, because my living situation isn't really conducive to it (I'm based in LA and can't really leave at the moment) and because game journalism in general has kind of gone to shit and it's one of the worst careers you can get into salary-wise.

It's my work as UDON Entertainment's editor and (until recently) my position as an editor and associate producer at ShiftyLook that pays the bills. Not that I'm complaining; ShiftyLook was and UDON is an awesome gig!

Thanks for taking the time to count it up Ash. The results are pretty interesting, Mario led by a lot more than I would have thought. I'm fairly surprised that Mega Man made the top 5.

Also
Ness: 0 :(

Me too! Fairly surprised... and very pleased. Mega Man has the most appearances of any newcomer right now!


Are you saying that's too many or too few Villager appearances? :P

Something I found a bit weird: The majority of times Mario, Samus, and Bowser appear, they're getting the shit kicked out of them. It's a really noticeable trend in the early PotDs.

Edit: Forgot Donkey Kong. He also seems to be part of the loser league.

Donkey Kong is like the leader of the loser league. Seriously, going back through every single pic, I had forgotten just how often DK is shown to be getting his ass kicked or humiliated in some other way. It's weird and very noticeable!
 
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