What exactly are you saying? I do not want to have sex with people who were once men/are male. I may have a natural sexual attraction to the way they've made themselves look, but that doesn't mean I should act on those sexual desires equally. Accepting transgendered people doesn't mean you owe them lust.
Probably the most remarkable transgender transformation ever
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The Librarian
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A year and a half I think?
PontyfaxJr
Member
Where can I get a prescription for Godzilla hormones?
I learned something new today, impressive work.
JumpJeff84
Member
Cool. May I ask why you wouldn't dare post a 'before' pic? Are you ashamed of the way you used to look, or is it a privacy thing? Not trying to goad you into posting one, just curious....
NCR Redslayer
NeoGAF's Vegeta
Just take in large amounts of radiation.
The_Hitcher89
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I wouldn't dare post a before picture but:
1. https://twitter.com/Dax01/status/509080272755650561
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I never even had an inclination in all of the pics in FaceGAF :O
How old were you when you decided to go all the way, if that's not insensitive to ask?
Mysterious
Banned
She looks like those Japanese pop-stars after their plastic surgeries now. I really don't like that look.
Calling people mines aka traps is kind of insensitive, don't you think?
SquiddyCracker
Banned
You owe them lust if you find them attractive prior to discovering their condition.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
It's just that those comments are way too similar to the common, "Oh you're going to Thailand? Watch out for traps, haha!!" type of awful jokes
You don't owe them your attraction sure but the way some people react it seems like even someone who is post-op is somehow less than human.
Exactly, seems hypocritical for a person's opinion to change just because they learned that the pretty girl there once used to be a homely young man
Yeah, I just figured he meant it is taking a risk, like how every click in minesweeper is a risk.
It wasn't my comment, btw.
Mysterious
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Do hormones actually work at any ages??? My natural hormones are messed up and I look 10 years younger than I am. :'(
Jerk
You're contradicting yourself. You say you don't owe them lust while simultaneously admitting your sexual attraction and the reasoning you give is some vague reference of what you "should" do. Why shouldn't you act on those desires?
The Smoking Bun
Banned
Woops, corrected
I wouldn't dare post a before picture but:
1. https://twitter.com/Dax01/status/509080272755650561
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Damn you're cute. I hope you're content with yourself now.
Mysterious
Banned
What? I have endocrinological issues and I was wondering if they're actually effective after puberty, because I was worried it wasn't.
What if I find body augmentations unattractive? Attraction isn't just about flesh and breast fat.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Yes, people start HRT at a wide range of ages and the effects vary from person to person.
figadapaura
Member
Wow.
The same reason I don't try and get into the pants of every woman I find sexually attractive from a purely physical standpoint? Sexual attraction isn't just about finding a pretty object to have sex with.
But I think I've mad my point. I don't want to make the thread about this side point. So I'm just going to leave the conversation there.
Business
Member
The ear is the same so it looks like it's real.
I think she looks extremely creepy, but hey...
I wouldn't dare post a before picture but:
1. https://twitter.com/Dax01/status/509080272755650561
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Dax, everytime I see your picture, I think you're Ashley Burch for like 3 seconds. I always do a double take.
Sorry!
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Yes, it kinda is.
It's another thing if you don't want a relationship, but don't try to reduce sexual attraction to anything but superficialities.
I suppose the question then rises, why do you find body augmentations unattractive and where/why do you draw the line? Make-up? Nail or hair extensions? Skin grafts for burn victims?
Banana Aeon
Member
My mind is saying no, but my body is saying yes.
Skeptical, though.
Skeptical, though.
WEAVES?
JumpJeff84
Member
I went out on a date with a MTF transgendered person once.
I saw her pic on OK Cupid, and I thought 'damn, that girl's cute!' and then I clicked on the profile and discovered she was transgendered. I was about to click away immediately, but then I stopped myself. I was in a phase where I was dating a ton, having lots of fun 'liasons' and I thought to myself 'why not just message her and chat a bit? What's the harm? You DID find her attractive?'
So I messaged her and started a convo based on something she said in her profile not related to gender. She messaged me back and we started chatting. At one point she asked me if I had seen the whole trans part of her profile and I said that I had. Guess a lotta dudes just message girls without reading the profiles.
So we made plans to meet for a drink. Met up during the day, had a chat, and she was cool. I had been preparing myself for the possibility that I might see her and be like 'oh no, she's so hot!' and then have to challenge myself with my view of my own sexuality.
But I wasn't attractive to her. Simple as that. We had a nice time, but she just wasn't attractive to me. So we went our separate ways, and that was that. Not sure if she found me attractive or not. I still wonder what would have happened if I'd been incredibly attracted to her....
I saw her pic on OK Cupid, and I thought 'damn, that girl's cute!' and then I clicked on the profile and discovered she was transgendered. I was about to click away immediately, but then I stopped myself. I was in a phase where I was dating a ton, having lots of fun 'liasons' and I thought to myself 'why not just message her and chat a bit? What's the harm? You DID find her attractive?'
So I messaged her and started a convo based on something she said in her profile not related to gender. She messaged me back and we started chatting. At one point she asked me if I had seen the whole trans part of her profile and I said that I had. Guess a lotta dudes just message girls without reading the profiles.
So we made plans to meet for a drink. Met up during the day, had a chat, and she was cool. I had been preparing myself for the possibility that I might see her and be like 'oh no, she's so hot!' and then have to challenge myself with my view of my own sexuality.
But I wasn't attractive to her. Simple as that. We had a nice time, but she just wasn't attractive to me. So we went our separate ways, and that was that. Not sure if she found me attractive or not. I still wonder what would have happened if I'd been incredibly attracted to her....
SkeptiMism
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Uhm no it's not that simple.
As a very common example, most people find self-confidence a very sexy thing.
edit: Not to get into the argument otherwise though. It is very likely that there is some prejudices in play most of the time.
Bomber Bob
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you mean korean pop stars
I wouldn't dare post a before picture but:
1. https://twitter.com/Dax01/status/509080272755650561
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Haha what? I've seen your picture before and i had no idea. I genuinely thought "pretty cute girl yup"
Being homosexual merely means you are attracted to the same sex. Going transgender means you feel you were born in the wrong body, on the wrong side of society. The problem is, you are not. Society is simply enforcing a bunch of rules on each gender and you switched to the side you feel closer to.
Don't change yourself, change society.
As a note, people always told me I am secretly gay because of my "feminine" mannerisms. Well, I picked up a lot from my mom. It was so strong I felt like I was born on the wrong side. But it was not me in the wrong body. It's society having ridiculous allencompassing gender norms.
So, I respect going transgender. But I will never applaud it. Because to me, they got you. They got you good.
I do and don't understand when people have to question their own view of sexuality in these kind of situations. I mean, ultimately you're dating a woman, so why should you feel awkward?
This is going to be me being picky, but can we move on from calling transgender people transgendered? It isn't an illiness or a condition you're afflicted with.
The Librarian
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Hey dude. Just letting you know it's really goddamn offensive for you to say "I'm not attracted to transgender people." It's the equivalent of saying, "I'm not attracted to Asians."
Let me answer your question with a question: Why would I want people to see me as a boy when that's not the real me?
Right before I turned21.
DonMigs85
Member
Yeah, unless you're looking to make a biological baby at some point or want the feel of a natural vagina of course.
JumpJeff84
Member
No, that's fair enough. The reason I asked was because this thread was specifically about miraculous transformations, and you specifically mentioned that yours was more impressive than the one in the OP.
But I totally get why you wouldn't wanna show pics of you in a stage in your life when you didn't feel like 'you.'
The Librarian
Banned
Well, I think the fact that nobody can tell unless I tell then is itself pretty remarkable.
And I'm not a fan of the transformation posted in the OP. She looks like a girl, yeah, but she looks fake from a surgical standpoint.
The Librarian
Banned
Hey, can you tell me more about what it's like to be transgender? I'm very in the dark on such matters.
Love transgendered people, but it's not the same. As long as they're open from the start there is nothing which can be seen as "deceiving" going on. And I mean it's entirely up to the individual if they want their prospectus partner to have a vagina/penis so it's hardly prejudice if they're not interested once they find out they don't have what they're looking for.
Unbound By Death
Member
Well if he isn't then he isn't.
Attraction is completely subjective.
Why is it offensive?
It would be offensive if he said asians are bad, or transgender people are bad.
Am i missing something?
JumpJeff84
Member
it's the unknown. If I had been attracted to this woman, it would have been a new experience. In that sense, it's a little scary. I'm not saying I would have questioned my sexuality if I'd engaged in intimacy with this woman, it just would have been uncharted territory.
Most straight males would feel at least somewhat awkward about taking that step, that's just the truth.
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