on the plus side, if you could use the watch to screen all incoming messages, you'd have your smartphone screen off a lot more (ignoring unimportant messages, only paying attention when relevant) which would save a lot of battery life.
The biggest issue I have with the idea of smartwatches is I'm not sure why I want one. There's not really a huge difference between "getting phone out of pocket" and "turning wrist", especially when the phone provides a significantly better experience. I wouldn't mind being convinced otherwise, though.
I'm not an Apple guy but after how long this has been rumored to be in development I would've expected something at least as nice looking as the Moto 360. Instead we get another overpriced ugly rectangular watch.
bluetooth will likely sip more of your battery though since they are constantly connected.
And not sure how well you will be able to actually read emails on 1.63" watch. You will basically read notifications and use phone for everything more than that... at least i would.
Battery for smartwatch is pretty important... especially since it requires special charger. I would not want to have to carry charger around everywhere.
One of the major points of Ipad was that it has very long battery run time, same for iPhone, especially when compared to Androids of 2-3 years ago.
"Think different"
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Release, late, the most boring take on a product imaginable.
Somehow i think Jobs wouldn't have allowed this shit.
I'm not an Apple guy but after how long this has been rumored to be in development I would've expected something at least as nice looking as the Moto 360. Instead we get another overpriced ugly rectangular watch.
Firstly, there's no way the charge lasts only twelve hours, that's not 'all day'. Secondly, some people leave their houses for months, does that mean anything less than months from a single charge is unacceptable?
Essentially, if you're going to be away for days, you're going to be doing things specifically in order to maintain your lifestyle, you're going to have a phone charger, you're going to have a toothbrush, a shaving kit, a change of clothing, etc, at which point, a watch charger seems like an insignificant addition.
bluetooth will likely sip more of your battery though since they are constantly connected.
And not sure how well you will be able to actually read emails on 1.63" watch. You will basically read notifications and use phone for everything more than that... at least i would.
Battery for smartwatch is pretty important... especially since it requires special charger. I would not want to have to carry charger around everywhere.
One of the major points of Ipad was that it has very long battery run time, same for iPhone, especially when compared to Androids of 2-3 years ago.
I find it interesting that people assume that just because it's designed by Apple the design is the smartest and most thought through and that other designs are automatically less good.The circular shape of the 360 limits the real estate for a screen. I feel like people make these types of snap judgements without thinking about how much thought they put into the design. They didn't just make it rectangular because that was easiest route.
Wasn't it said that at the time of his passing, he had his hand in helping up to the 4S? Think people need to drop the whole "Steve would have not allowed this." He's gone, let him rest already. Who knows what would have been different.I see this thrown around a lot, but how do we know it wasn't part of a roadmap Steve left before he died?
I will definitely wait for next version of this watch. I have a feeling it will be slimmer and packed with more features, hopefully water resistant so I can go swimming with it.
I am however curious on how the watch will work if we forget the iphone at home when we go outside to do something... will apps work? will we get sms ? how does it stay connected to the network.
I will definitely wait for next version of this watch. I have a feeling it will be slimmer and packed with more features, hopefully water resistant so I can go swimming with it.
I am however curious on how the watch will work if we forget the iphone at home when we go outside to do something... will apps work? will we get sms ? how does it stay connected to the network.
So how does it compare to other smart-watches?
I like the general design a bit more now, by the way. It's a simple design because that will give you the most options to personalise it.
I hate, hate, hate the golden version though. Gold is such a disgusting colour.
And i think it's too thick/ cluncky
generally from the front it looks ok, but it does look like a squat iphone 1 with the fat rounded edges. I think in profile it looks thicker due to the bottom part designed to be reading your pulse etc.
I also have skinny wrists so I'm concerned even the smaller one might be too big for me (although I'm guessing they've designed it for women so I might be ok)
Pretty cool. I'll wait till Apple makes a sexier UI and watch before jumping into one of these.
I dont even know if I need these but I like new tech so i dunnoThe answer is "Google is getting better at design faster than Apple is getting better at web services."Lapidus said:(comment from Macrumors) This is the first time I'm getting afraid that Apple might lose everything to Google someday. Should they really keep everything closed? Google is so much faster with opening up everything..
What innovations is Apple's eventual iWatch going to offer? Gesture UI? Payment system? The iWatch will have to be especially 'sexy' (curved screen — as on the Samsung Galaxy Fit) and/or the fitness function would have to be ground breaking (diabetes management?) because Apple is already far behind on the stuff Google showed off yesterday. iOS notifications don't support response actions, there's no iOS intents system (to enable third party Voice actions), there's no iOS equivalent to Google Now, Siri isn't as good as Google's voice dictation, no iOS equivalent to Google's Home automation...
Apple still has its captive iPhone/iPad userbase that will make any iWatch a success but, unlike at the iPhone launch and the iPad launch, I don't think Apple will be dominating this new market
The Moto 360 is earning kudos for being the Android Wear device that most resembles a traditional watch. Motorola explicitly states that this is why they based it on a circular design. The Moto 360 watch faces are mostly skeuomorphic; they mimic the look of analog watch faces. That sort of mimicry of real-world analog objects is exactly what Apple has just spent the last two years eliminating in iOS and OS X. I expect Apple to go some other way. I’ll be very disappointed if this is just a device that shows a fake analog watch face, displays notifications from a tethered iPhone, and tracks your footsteps and heart rate.
In short, I don’t expect to see Apple’s take on the sort of thing Android Wear is trying to do. I expect Apple to do something different, and quite possibly something less but deeper.
The Unexpected Apps
KidCode. It might start out as an app designed with the best of intentions, to let people communicate via a brand-new gestural language-in, Morse-code vibration out, aimed, perhaps, at a few aging amateur radio operators. It it suddenly and unexpectedly taken over by school kids, sweeping the nation. No more being busted by teacher while intently tapping out text on phones. Instead, kids will be just innocently rubbing their watch faces. No more glancing at text screens, just feeling silent vibrations...
I'm saying Apple won't release a watch that needs to be charged more frequently than a normal person would be out of bed.So you're saying a company would never, ever exaggerate or leave things unclear because of obvious reasons?
My interpretation of his post was that he was alluding to multiple days of being absent, not how long a normal watch wearing single day arguably is.And whoah at missing the point. We know the Moto 360 doesn't hold up for a single day. We know Apple didn't show figures for the Apple Watch battery life. We know gadgets haven't evolved much when it comes to battery life in general. People are just using their common sense right now. We all hope that thing can get through a solid day, but why should we actually believe it does at this point?
I've read most of the previews, watched the videos, let the news sink in. Here were my thoughts from the March '14 Google unveils Android Wear: a version of Android for smartwatches thread:
Back then some prominent Fanboys were predicting that Apple wouldn't make a watch. Even up to the day before the announcement there was still that insistence that Apple would do something different:
*cough*
Apple has spent the past couple months trying to catch up to Android. iOS8 added actionable notifications, homekit. TheiWatchWATCH has a payments system (albeit tethered to an iPhone 6/+). However Apple still doesn't have an equivalent of Google Now; Apple hasnt even fixed their maps app yet. The WATCH is a typical Apple version 1 product but this time they haven't leapfrogged the market and there are strong competitors already available. I stand by my earlier prediction that Apple won't be dominating this market.
The WATCH itself is a curious product. Let's just get this out of the way first — it doesn't look that good. The renders make it look stunning but the real world pics show otherwise
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plated gold is usually too tacky to be worn everyday in casual clothes. I don't agree with the idea of gendered smartwatches but, if it could argued that Moto360 and some other Android Wear devices are too 'masculine', the WATCH looks very feminine. I can't imagine any guy pairing that with formal wear. Angela Ahrendts and Dr Dre have a huge task on their hands marketing this as fashionable and cool imo...
The WATCH UI interface is even more perplexing. It does NOT have an always on watchface. You have to lift your arm to see the time! The 'digital crown' looks nice — I'm a big fan of physical scroll controls and would actually like this on the phone too — but it's not the only type or even the main form of interaction
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Here's a demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwv-3wZocK4
That's a lot of swiping. Not to mention how quickly the screen kept going off and the need to press the tiny crown to turn it on again. I wonder how all this will work out during the winter with bulky gloves on? It's doesn't bode well that the WATCH has such aggressive display management and Apple can't even give a battery estimate right now. Jony Ive has his work cut out for him.
I guess the unique killer feature was supposed to be that quick messaging feature? Tog actually predicted that back in Feb '13:
Bah. What Apple showed off looks like a gimmick and I can't believe they actually dedicated a whole button just for that (why not for notifications screen instead?)! I was reminded first and foremost of Ping. This 'killer communications feature' requires both parties to have a WATCH which in turn requires both parties to have an iPhone. Not an iPod Touch or an iPad or a Macbook; no the watch must be paired with an iPhone 5/5c/5s/6/6+. The potential userbase is not that large especially when considering the starting price. $350 is a bit high and you can bet the 'good' 'fashionable' versions will be much higher. The Moto360 with stainless steel band cost $300 and I guess the equivalent Apple version will be almost double that, despite not being showerproof, not having gps etc. I just don't see teenagers spending that amount of money for an unnecessary fashion gadget that will be obsolete in a year...
The smart move usually is to skip the first generation of Apple products. So far the WATCH seems to fall into that category. All that said though, I'm buying it Day 1. I've been a smartwatch early adopter for the past few years for some halfbaked products (metawatch lol) so the WATCH is right up my alley.![]()
I think requiring the iPhone is the biggest issue with the device. Cook was talking about the 200M installbase already, which is fine, but why not allow a basic functionality version for anyone? Seems oddly limiting.
I don't think it sounds like a gimmick. That's very practical. She could *tap tap tap* while I *fap fap fap*. That way it will feel like she has a hand in it.I know the morse code feels like a gimmick, but honestly that is the feature I'm most excited about. Has there ever been a device that allowed you to touch someone from a distance? Besides some high tech X rated electronics and long sticks, I believe this is the first, and I think it is awesome. I just love the idea that when I'm bored at a party, I can subtlety tap my friend's wrist and quickly write "bored" or something. I know this is no a common occurrence, but just today my wife had her phone her bag set to vibrate, and I tried to call her a couple times but she missed it. Sure, the obvious solution is don't set your phone to vibrate and put it in your bag, but the iWatch could solve that problem too. I could **tap tap tap** and she could check her phone.
I have a 4S. I don't know what the 5 could handle it, but my 4S couldn't.
I imagine gen 2 will just be thinner, as the iPhone won't get a physical refresh for two years now, in which time hopefully Ive has brutalized those bezels, and we'll get an iPhone and Watch refresh that are somewhat uniformed.I think the concept is fantastic and I am chugging the kool-aid.
But I think we can all look at that design and instantly think "that is a first gen design we will look back on in a few years as quaint".
I'm sure successive generations of this watch will be thinner and more refined.. And I'm going to want one eventually.
Oh, I didn't know about that. That makes sense.Probably the same reason you can't AirDrop or use HandOff/Continuity with a 4S.
P2P WiFi.
Both are bad. Pulling out your phone is certainly worse.Having read through most of this thread, the most amusing thing by far I've read is how people seem to think that looking at one's watch, a gesture traditionally known to be the universal body language for "Oh God you're boring me," during a meeting/conversation is more acceptable than looking at your phone.
The WATCH itself is a curious product. Let's just get this out of the way first it doesn't look that good. The renders make it look stunning but the real world pics show otherwise
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This is my only caveat about buying the first version of the Apple Watch:
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If you're running or biking or whatever, you still need your iPhone on your person to track where you go. Not a surprise, considering they said you'd need an iPhone with the watch, but I just wondered how essential the iPhone was for all features.
A future version will likely have GPS and/or cellular connectivity built in. That's when it'll be indispensable. (When that happens, tons of parents will slap them on their kids' wrists.)
I agree with Greyface above that the UI is very perplexing. They went against their own reasoning for the Crown with the springboard. The device seems very reliant on touch. They're also using different design languages. Some things are flat and graphic, while others are completely 3d, like the emojis and fitness badges.
I'm disappointed because this is likely to be the UI they'll stick with for the device, and it just doesn't seem good.
If you're running or biking or whatever, you still need your iPhone on your person to track where you go.