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[ThePlayerofGames]

All I see is a bunch of people berating anyone who won't go out and spend a grand or more on a tricked out pc to become part of the 'master race'.

No matter what reason anyone states, you guys just won't take no for an answer.

This thread is nothing more than the worst of reddit all over again.

Whoever made the religious comparison is dead on.

You're like pushy door to door religious people who insist people try coming to church because they don't know what they're missing out on.

I'm tired of the condescension and the berating simply because I won't spend a ridiculous amount of money to have the same platform as you.

I haven't bought a pc because I don't want to be part of a miserable, vicious community that has to insult everyone else just to make themselves feel secure in their own choice of platform.

Keep your crappy community.

 

[Basketball]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u21lYnGbnUY

 

[SparkTR]

All I see is a bunch of people berating anyone who won't go out and spend a grand or more on a tricked out pc to become part of the 'master race'.

No matter what reason anyone states, you guys just won't take no for an answer.

This thread is nothing more than the worst of reddit all over again.

Whoever made the religious comparison is dead on.

You're like pushy door to door religious people who insist people try coming to church because they don't know what they're missing out on.

I'm tired of the condescension and the berating simply because I won't spend a ridiculous amount of money to have the same platform as you.

I haven't bought a pc because I don't want to be part of a miserable, vicious community that has to insult everyone else just to make themselves feel secure in their own choice of platform.

Keep your crappy community.

Jesus man, calm down. As a junior you won't get far with that attitude.

Also SteamGAF is the best community on Neogaf (at least the gaming side of GAF). You sound like someone who has never been a part of a PC community, and given your attitude it's probably true.

 

[Qassim]

I haven't bought a pc because I don't want to be part of a miserable, vicious community that has to insult everyone else just to make themselves feel secure in their own choice of platform.

Keep your crappy community.

I play on PC and seemingly can stay away from that part of the community, it's pretty easy. Just as easy as it is to stay away from the part of the console community that engages in all out "fanboy wars" on other consoles.

Seems odd to avoid a platform to play games on because some people who also use that platform to play games on are weird.

 

[Atraveller]

All I see is a bunch of people berating anyone who won't go out and spend a grand or more on a tricked out pc to become part of the 'master race'.

No matter what reason anyone states, you guys just won't take no for an answer.

This thread is nothing more than the worst of reddit all over again.

Whoever made the religious comparison is dead on.

You're like pushy door to door religious people who insist people try coming to church because they don't know what they're missing out on.

I'm tired of the condescension and the berating simply because I won't spend a ridiculous amount of money to have the same platform as you.

I haven't bought a pc because I don't want to be part of a miserable, vicious community that has to insult everyone else just to make themselves feel secure in their own choice of platform.

Keep your crappy community.

 

[MrNyarlathotep]

All I see is a bunch of people berating anyone who won't go out and spend a grand or more on a tricked out pc to become part of the 'master race'.

No matter what reason anyone states, you guys just won't take no for an answer.

This thread is nothing more than the worst of reddit all over again.

Whoever made the religious comparison is dead on.

You're like pushy door to door religious people who insist people try coming to church because they don't know what they're missing out on.

I'm tired of the condescension and the berating simply because I won't spend a ridiculous amount of money to have the same platform as you.

I haven't bought a pc because I don't want to be part of a miserable, vicious community that has to insult everyone else just to make themselves feel secure in their own choice of platform.

Keep your crappy community.

 

[HariKari]

I don't want to be part of a miserable, vicious community that has to insult everyone else just to make themselves feel secure in their own choice of platform.

You own a console, right? Every platform has their fanboys. It's not a reflection of the entire community.

 

[Picobrain]

Can somebody give me list of top 10 games that are exclusive on PC so I can see what I am missing.

 

[grandwizard]

Still walking my dog but with some iPhone research I offer you these (re. shit PC ports upon release):

Bionic Commando (2009)
Need for Speed: The Run
Bully
Dark Souls
Borderlands
Resident Evil 4
Enslaved
Kane & Lynch
Dark Siders 2
Deadly Premonition (not AAA but cool)
Assassin's Creed 1 & 2
Binary Domain (also not AAA)
Mirror's Edge

Literally all of these games are superior on PC.

It is extremely rare for a pc port to be bad enough to be worse than the console version. Even 'notoriously' bad PC ports like Dark Souls 1 were at the very least equal to the console version (actually better since it had a steady framerate). Then Durante came along and it is without question the vastly superior version.

 

[Atraveller]

Can somebody give me list of top 10 games that are exclusive on PC so I can see what I am missing.

The list of PC exclusives are filled with great games, perhaps you'll want to limit it to a certain time period or genre, it'll help people making the list a lot easier.

 

[NingenJanai]

All I see is a bunch of people berating anyone who won't go out and spend a grand or more on a tricked out pc to become part of the 'master race'.

No matter what reason anyone states, you guys just won't take no for an answer.

This thread is nothing more than the worst of reddit all over again.

Whoever made the religious comparison is dead on.

You're like pushy door to door religious people who insist people try coming to church because they don't know what they're missing out on.

I'm tired of the condescension and the berating simply because I won't spend a ridiculous amount of money to have the same platform as you.

I haven't bought a pc because I don't want to be part of a miserable, vicious community that has to insult everyone else just to make themselves feel secure in their own choice of platform.

Keep your crappy community.

 

[hemtae]

Can somebody give me list of top 10 games that are exclusive on PC so I can see what I am missing.

10 games from the entire 30+ years of pc gaming?

 

[HariKari]

Can somebody give me list of top 10 games that are exclusive on PC so I can see what I am missing.

To be honest, it would be a lot easier to list the games that are exclusive to consoles, and then each individual console. If you are buying a gaming PC, you are generally buying it to play everything you can on it, not just PC exclusives. If you prefer a controller, PC has you covered with that.

 

[Atruvius]

It's on sale on Humble Store right now

Just be warned that Cloudbuilt is tough towards the end. In order to play in a way where you feel like you're just zooming through a level, you need to really get the controls in your muscle memory. It's quite precise, but feels so good when you master it.

See this huge diagonal wallrunning section from one of the last stages, that goes so far up it becomes obfuscated? In one go. Don't let the purple mines hit you, don't jump/drop off the wall, manage your boost meter and pick up the needed yellow boost pick-ups on the way up.

You make it to the top, and then if you go replay one of the earlier stages, your record time improves by a massive chunk because you've improved so much. I thought I'd never play a proper 3D platformer on PC, with keyboard no less, but here it is.

Cheers, I'll have to try to remember to buy it today then!

 

[adin75]

The day Sony exclusives start coming to PC I will consider it, until then...........

 

[Chezzymann]

I'm not very tech savvy and always run into weird issues that can be solved incredibly simply and I didn't know how to do it. I'm like your grandpa on an iphone with computers. Unlike what the OP says, for me, its pretty common to have these experiences. I also don't like not being completely sure if a game will run, not being able to easily bring my PC to someone elses house easily like I can with a console, and am not a fan of most the AAA exclusives for PC (I'm more interested in Nintendo's core games/Halo). Also like you said consoles just work and are generally a smoother experience for me with no malware, driver updates, viruses, or all the other crud that comes along with PCs. Also, my brother built a PC and had a really hard time doing it (Some parts were messed up, instructions were not very clear, he had to rebuild it twice. He put something in slightly wrong also but didn't figure out about it until later) so I'm not buying the whole 'PC's are super easy to build!" banter because it might be easy to build if you're around computers a lot and work with them but I don't want to go through the effort to deal with all that, even if it does turn out to be easy for me.. I would much rather stick with a cheaper, easier, 'inferior' experience that instantly works right out of the box and takes practically zero effort to maintain.

 

[Tagyhag]

See, this is exactly what they are talking about. As soon as you start playing PC games your moral values go down and you grow an immense elitist attitude.

Not everyone can afford the thousands that it costs for a capable PC and making fun of them doesn't make your community any better. Not to mention, that every response here has been understandable , why play on a system with no exclusives or cinematic experiences?

At least the console community is a safe haven for the mature and sensible gamer crowd who have much better things to do than squabble about petty things like resolution and framerate.

 

[Krejlooc]

All I see is a bunch of people berating anyone who won't go out and spend a grand or more on a tricked out pc to become part of the 'master race'.

No matter what reason anyone states, you guys just won't take no for an answer.

This thread is nothing more than the worst of reddit all over again.

Whoever made the religious comparison is dead on.

You're like pushy door to door religious people who insist people try coming to church because they don't know what they're missing out on.

I'm tired of the condescension and the berating simply because I won't spend a ridiculous amount of money to have the same platform as you.

I haven't bought a pc because I don't want to be part of a miserable, vicious community that has to insult everyone else just to make themselves feel secure in their own choice of platform.

Keep your crappy community.

The intense hypocrisy.

Can somebody give me list of top 10 games that are exclusive on PC so I can see what I am missing.

1. Excel
2. MS-DOS
3. MOBA
4. World of Everquest
6. Farmville
7. Starcraft
8. Drivers
9. Keyboard & Mouse
10. NeoGAF

 

[Krejlooc]

edit; DP

 

[Atraveller]

See, this is exactly what they are talking about. As soon as you start playing PC games your moral values go down and you grow an immense elitist attitude.

Not everyone can afford the thousands that it costs for a capable PC and making fun of them doesn't make your community any better. Not to mention, that every response here has been understandable , why play on a system with no exclusives or cinematic experiences?

At least the console community is a safe haven for the mature and sensible gamer crowd who have much better things to do than squabble about petty things like resolution and framerate.

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[Saucycarpdog]

.

Pretty sure that wasn't a serious post.

 

[Atraveller]

Pretty sure that wasn't a serious post.

I don't know, I can't tell anymore.

 

[yuraya]

At least the console community is a safe haven for the mature and sensible gamer crowd who have much better things to do than squabble about petty things like resolution and framerate.

 

[herod]

See, this is exactly what they are talking about. As soon as you start playing PC games your moral values go down and you grow an immense elitist attitude.

Not everyone can afford the thousands that it costs for a capable PC and making fun of them doesn't make your community any better. Not to mention, that every response here has been understandable , why play on a system with no exclusives or cinematic experiences?

At least the console community is a safe haven for the mature and sensible gamer crowd who have much better things to do than squabble about petty things like resolution and framerate.

LOL

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

The day Sony exclusives start coming to PC I will consider it, until then...........

When you buy a PC do you get put on some kind of black list that prevents the purchase of any other system or game?

 

[Benzychenz]

Because I'm happy with my consoles and my favourite genres are generally on consoles (platformers, character action games, JRPGs and the like).

 

[Saucycarpdog]

Seriously though, the console war shit flinning that goes on in some threads, like the npds, is borderline vulgar sometimes and makes even the worst fanboy wars on PC, (AMD vs Nividia, OSX vs Win etc.), look tame in comparison. The console community isn't as jolly as some people in this thread think it is.

 

[Chezzymann]

Also the thing is with these types of discussions, it usually goes like "Want to use a wireless dualshock 4 controller on your PC? Use this Bluetooth adapter! Oh, its not working? Check this site to see if you have the correct drives!" "Oh, you want to play your games on your TV? Use this HDMI cable and try out Steam's Big Picture mode!" "Oh, you don't like optimizing your game? Download this program to optimize your game at the click of a button!" "Oh, you have a virus? Download this anti virus software to clean up your system!" "Your game is crashing? Delete all your local files, back up your saves, and redownload the game from steam! See if that fixes it." "Do it this way, see easy fix right?" "Use this streaming service to stream your games to other devices so you don't have to be all hunched over at a desk after a long day of work!" "What about this? There! Done!"

Sure, you can improve the PC experience with a bunch of easy fixes, but easily fixing things to improve the experience is exactly the problem many people have with PCs. Because on consoles, there aren't hundreds of small little easy fixes that combined amount to a complicated problem. The thing just perfectly plays games straight out of the box with little to no effort to maintain.

Spoiler

(Okay, it doesn't always work straight out of the box. There's stuff like the red ring of death sometimes. But the ratio of problems is MUCH lower due to consoles being a closed system.

 

[ExFalsoQuodlibet]

I would, if I had the money. My personal computer is a Mac, simply because it's better in everything BUT gaming, and I keep a partition with windows 8, which is a awful OS but Open Broadcaster Software is better on windows and my capture card runs better on windows.

I would gladly buy a gaming PC that boots right into steam big picture for comfy-couch gaming, I could even stand some occasional awful windows-ing for games that are not on steam, but I need to buy a PS4 for bloodborne and other exclusives and I'm short on cash.

 

[Chariot]

See, this is exactly what they are talking about. As soon as you start playing PC games your moral values go down and you grow an immense elitist attitude.

Not everyone can afford the thousands that it costs for a capable PC and making fun of them doesn't make your community any better. Not to mention, that every response here has been understandable , why play on a system with no exclusives or cinematic experiences?

At least the console community is a safe haven for the mature and sensible gamer crowd who have much better things to do than squabble about petty things like resolution and framerate.

I don't get it. My PC was cheaper than a nextgen console and I use it for working, surfing, picture editing, watching my DVDs and Amazon Prime, listen to music and communication. I can play most modern games on high and more, which is most of the times still better than the console.

And well, exclusives are a thing yes, and I am sad when I see games that I can't play. But then I just take a look at my backlog and see that I have enough games, cinematic ones, fun ones, ones where I have to think, some where I just smash, big adventures, small adventures.

Don't mind the category names so much. I was too lazy to give proper names, since steam still not allows to rename categories.

Spoiler

And this is just Steam, I also have physical media from olden times and some stuff on gog and uplay

Yes, PC gamers are missing out on some specific titles, but so do cconsole gamers - or do you have the money to buy all three consoles? Also PC has exclusives, but I guess you don't like moba, simulation and strategy.

 

[adin75]

When you buy a PC do you get put on some kind of black list that prevents the purchase of any other system or game?

No but when the 3rd party games I am interested in are available on both console and PC, and I am buying a console for the exclusives anyway, why blow the cash on a gaming PC?

 

[outunderthestars]

No but when the 3rd party games I am interested in are available on both console and PC, and I am buying a console for the exclusives anyway, why blow the cash on a gaming PC?

For the weird, fun little games that never come to consoles, as well as the inexpensive steam sales, humble bundles, etc.

 

[ExFalsoQuodlibet]

I don't get it. My PC was cheaper than a nextgen console and I use it for working, surfing, picture editing, watching my DVDs and Amazon Prime, listen to music and communication. I can play most modern games on high and more, which is most of the times still better than the console.

So you payed your PC less than 400$ and it's capable of running games that look and play better than, to say, Killzone SF? What are your specs? What's the physical size of your PC?

 

[Atruvius]

Also the thing is with these types of discussions, it usually goes like "Want to use a wireless dualshock 4 controller on your PC? Use this Bluetooth adapter! Oh, its not working? Check this site to see if you have the correct drives!"
That's pretty much the same as complaining that you can't natively use 360 controller on your PS3.

"Oh, you want to play your games on your TV? Use this HDMI cable and try out Steam's Big Picture ode!"
This isn't even any kind of fix or worth mentioning. I'm sure almost everyone own HDMI cables these days and you don't even have to download Big Picture Mode, it comes automatically with Steam.

"Oh, you don't like optimizing your game? Download this program to optimize your game at the click of a button!"
Don't optimise if you don't want to. Just use pre-set graphics settings.

"Oh, you have a virus? Download this anti virus software to clean up your system!"
Windows 8 has anti-virus pre installed, and viruses have nothing to do with PC gaming.

"Your game is crashing? Delete all your local files, back up your saves, and redownload the game from steam! See if that fixes it."
No need to backup or delete anything. Steam can check the integrity of your game files and will download missing files. Saves usually aren't in the game's installation folder.

"Do it this way, see easy fix right?" "Use this streaming service to stream your games to other devices so you don't have to be all hunched over at a desk after a long day of work!" "What about this? There! Done!"

Sure, you can improve the PC experience with a bunch of easy fixes, but easily fixing things to improve the experience is exactly the problem many people have with PCs. Because on consoles, there aren't hundreds of small little easy fixes that combined amount to a complicated problem. The thing just perfectly plays games straight out of the box with little to no effort to maintain.
Not really with consoles and games getting huge patches. It isn't much fun to download patches for over an hour before you get to play.

Spoiler

(Okay, it doesn't always work straight out of the box. There's stuff like the red ring of death sometimes. But the ratio of problems is MUCH lower due to consoles being a closed system.

Console games usually don't get any fixes after a certain time. So encounter a game breaking bug and you're pretty much out of luck. On PC someone usually has found a way to fix it.

 

[adin75]

For the weird, fun little games that never come to consoles, as well as the inexpensive steam sales, humble bundles, etc.

That's a fair point, and may apply to those who wait for sales, but I'm a 'gotta have it now' kinda person and usually buy games I want within the first week or two of release.

Money isn't the issue for me, with work and family I have a finite time for gaming, so I tend to stick to one format and that's usually the one 'I' see the most value in.

 

[Canon]

My main next-gen machine is the Wii U, none of its games are on PC. But I do have a pretty good PC to play HearthStone, WoW, and other games that work better on PC (typically RTS or FPS). It's a lot easier to use a console, though, no matter what people say, it just feels better to turn something on and have it just work (although nowadays consoles are becoming like PCs, so it might not matter as much).

I have a PS4 but not a single retail game for it. Just the PSN freebies.

 

[Gipsy Danger]

See, this is exactly what they are talking about. As soon as you start playing PC games your moral values go down and you grow an immense elitist attitude.

Not everyone can afford the thousands that it costs for a capable PC and making fun of them doesn't make your community any better. Not to mention, that every response here has been understandable , why play on a system with no exclusives or cinematic experiences?

At least the console community is a safe haven for the mature and sensible gamer crowd who have much better things to do than squabble about petty things like resolution and framerate.

You almost had me. 10/10.

 

[BigDes]

They were shit for pc standards but were al, even in the worst sate, better than the console originals.

Resident Evil 4 certainly wasn't. Not the original pc port.

 

[arnehelst]

Can somebody give me list of top 10 games that are exclusive on PC so I can see what I am missing.

A list of 10 (sort of) recent games I've enjoyed not in any order.
Civilization 5
Monkey Island 1 & 2(These are very old but available on Steam and still holds up)
Total war: Empire & Total war: Rome 2
World of Warcraft
Arma 3
Divinity: Original sin
Shadow Run
Age of mythology 3

 

[Spazznid]

So you payed your PC less than 400$ and it's capable of running games that look and play better than, to say, Killzone SF? What are your specs? What's the physical size of your PC?

That's up to the developers, friend. What I think they mean is that it runs multi-platform games at the same settings or higher with the same performance or more.

For example. Warframe on PS4. Let's assume the PC version at medium-high settings with low anisotropic filtering, and FXAA run at 45-50 fps on his hardware. That's still going to be better than the 30 fps you'd get on console. However, assuming his GPU is somewhat modern, say released within the last year and a half. I can almost guarantee 60+ fps.

 

[Gipsy Danger]

Resident Evil 4 certainly wasn't. Not the original pc port.

It was also released more than 7 years ago, which was the original length of time he had stated for the assessment. If you go back more than 7 years you will find tons of terrible PC ports. Things have changed a lot since then.

Edit: And now the RE4 Ultimate Edition exists and is the only version running at 60fps.

 

[ExFalsoQuodlibet]

That's up to the developers, friend. What I think they mean is that it runs multi-platform games at the same settings or higher with the same performance or more.

For example. Warframe on PS4. Let's assume the PC version at medium-high settings with low anisotropic filtering, and FXAA run at 45-50 fps on his hardware. That's still going to be better than the 30 fps you'd get on console. However, assuming his GPU is somewhat modern, say released within the last year and a half. I can almost guarantee 60+ fps.

Yeah probably an exclusive game is not a "fair" comparison, but also for multiplats the case stands: take Metro Redux, for example, is a less than 400$ PC capable of running the games with the same quality/speed as a PS4?

Also, I asked about physical size of the PC, and I would even add power consumption and noise, things that matter a lot, at least to me.

EDIT: I'd also add: and how about performance while streaming/recording gameplay? And long-term value? Is a now 400$ PC be on par with a PS4 two years from now?

 

[Gipsy Danger]

Yeah probably an exclusive game is not a "fair" comparison, but also for multiplats the case stands: take Metro Redux, for example, is a less than 400$ PC capable of running the games with the same quality/speed as a PS4?

Also, I asked about physical size of the PC, and I would even add power consumption and noise, things that matter a lot, at least to me.

Probably. The recommended specs are only 3GHz Dual-Core or any Quad-Core, Nvidia GTX480 and 4 GB of RAM. It's difficult to say though as I don't know the exact settings of the PS4. I would assume it runs the game at medium but that's complete guesswork and I wouldn't know what level of AA/AF/DoF/Motion Blur is going on.

EDIT: I'd also add: and how about performance while streaming/recording gameplay? And long-term value? Is a now 400$ PC be on par with a PS4 two years from now?

EDIT: Streaming from the machine would take a noticeable hit and you would be less likely to match the PS4, which is fair as the PS4 is a closed platform. Lastly, it's impossible to say if a $400 PC now will be on par with a PS4 two years from now. It's also worth noting that if you want to play more graphical intense games then I would never recommend you only spend $400 unless you intend to upgrade the machine within a few years. You could spend an extra $200-$400 and keep the machine for many years.

 

[CaptainGyro]

They were shit for pc standards but were al, even in the worst sate, better than the console originals.

tell that to the Bully version that ran on my pc like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_bxFHj1e8s

 

[Knurek]

A list of 10 (sort of) recent games I've enjoyed not in any order.
Monkey Island 1 & 2(These are very old but available on Steam and still holds up)

Not that I mind your list, but these two (or remakes of them) are available on XBLA.
I'd switch them to Gabriel Knight and Day of the Tentacle.

 

[ViviOggi]

All I see is a bunch of people berating anyone who won't go out and spend a grand or more on a tricked out pc to become part of the 'master race'.

No matter what reason anyone states, you guys just won't take no for an answer.

This thread is nothing more than the worst of reddit all over again.

Whoever made the religious comparison is dead on.

You're like pushy door to door religious people who insist people try coming to church because they don't know what they're missing out on.

I'm tired of the condescension and the berating simply because I won't spend a ridiculous amount of money to have the same platform as you.

I haven't bought a pc because I don't want to be part of a miserable, vicious community that has to insult everyone else just to make themselves feel secure in their own choice of platform.

Keep your crappy community.

 

[ExFalsoQuodlibet]

Probably. The recommended specs are only 3GHz Dual-Core or any Quad-Core, Nvidia GTX480 and 4 GB of RAM. It's difficult to say though as I don't know the exact settings of the PS4. I would assume it runs the game at medium but that's complete guesswork and I wouldn't know what level of AA/AF/DoF/Motion Blur is going on.

"Probably"? Also, why would you assume that it runs on medium? Based on what?

Digital Foundry said this (here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-metro-redux-face-off ):

Both PlayStation 4 and Xbox One versions of Metro Redux successfully manage to transplant the most crucial elements of the high-end PC experience onto significantly cheaper hardware

EDIT: Streaming from the machine would take a noticeable hit and you would be less likely to match the PS4, which is fair as the PS4 is a closed platform. Lastly, it's impossible to say if a $400 PC now will be on par with a PS4 two years from now. It's also worth noting that if you want to play more graphical intense games then I would never recommend you only spend $400 unless you intend to upgrade the machine within a few years. You could spend an extra $200-$400 and keep the machine for many years.

I would never spend only 400$ on a gaming PC, I was just asking to Chariot who said:

I don't get it. My PC was cheaper than a nextgen console and I use it for working, surfing, picture editing, watching my DVDs and Amazon Prime, listen to music and communication. I can play most modern games on high and more, which is most of the times still better than the console.

So, cheaper that runs most modern games on high and more, most of the times better than consoles, and I was wondering what specs they're talking about.

Also, the other things that I mentioned could matter, so it's superficial to just say "my PC is less than 400$ and my games looks and play better that those on your console".

 

[Opiate]

When you buy a PC do you get put on some kind of black list that prevents the purchase of any other system or game?

Some people have limited time or money. I know I can personally consume all the games I want with just a PC, so buying any other system is illogical and fiscally imprudent. Other people may feel the same about a 3DS or Playstation 4 or whatever.

 

[arnehelst]

Not that I mind your list, but these two (or remakes of them) are available on XBLA.
I'd switch them to Gabriel Knight and Day of the Tentacle.

Oh didn't know that. Not sure about Gabriel knight but the problem with Day of the tentacle is that it's hard to get. Awesome game that also still holds up though.

 

[EdwardTeach]

Can somebody give me list of top 10 games that are exclusive on PC so I can see what I am missing.

This is not definitive, but here are a few of my personal favourites:

Deus ex
Thief
Civilization
Crusader kings
Total war
Europa Universalis
Mount & blade warband
Football manager

And then there are games like witcher 2 which came out first on pc and look and run a lot better.