Oh man. If you think this game needs "saving. . ." Bungie has already outlined and done a pretty good job of making apparent upcoming content for the game which should keep those who aren't pissed they didn't get the game they imagined they would be getting well and truly occupied.
Destiny - Review Thread
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Oh man. If you think this game needs "saving. . ." Bungie has already outlined and done a pretty good job of making apparent upcoming content for the game which should keep those who aren't pissed they didn't get the game they imagined they would be getting well and truly occupied.
Are you for real with this?
a "solid game" is not enough when your company is called Bungie and you worked on this game for over 6 fucking years.
I can totally understand why people are pissed.
I think 20% is being generous based on what I've read about their plans for it. I think single digit percentage is more likely.
This is probably more unrealistic than the Metascore going above 80.
This is kind of a weird deflection, though. If there's no level of trust between you and the developers of the games you hope to buy, how do you even know about the contents of the game in the first place? Obviously lots of us watch E3, trailers, and gameplay videos to get an idea of the sort of products we want to purchase. Is it really that unreasonable to think that someone might get excited by one of those things, only to be burned out when they discover they were not viewing a realistic representation of the product?
Maybe it is misguided to trust game developers to be honest with their consumers, but I don't think this is something that we should lump onto the people being deceived and throw insults like "childish" at them. Maybe this problem in communication stems from the person doing the talking? I would certainly argue that's the case here.
Disclaimer: I like Destiny
PopcornMegaphone
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It will become a bomba once amazon lists it for 40 dollars.
Netherscourge
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The game came out 2 days ago and many people are already standing around waiting for the 1 piece of End Game content to be unlocked which will supposedly quiet all the criticism.
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wtf at 78, wolfenstein is criminally underrated by the review press.
Most of the criticism seems to be that the game failed to meet the hype. I'd agree, though Destiny is not alone in this regard.
Only if you think Metacritic is a good barometer of a games quality which I don't. Unfortunately plenty of people do.
Game comes out. People bumrush to the end. News at 11.
Considering they sold 500 million bucks worth of copies to retailers... if the current perception of the game stands, they might end up selling half of those copies at $60, the rest at discounted prices to clear out inventory.
I'd totally buy a sequel. I like the game.
Nocturno999
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Well, their 10 year plan can got to shit if they don't fix the game's biggest concern which is
that it's a hollow shell, waiting to be filled with DLC.
I agree, WF TNO is my favorite SP shooter in years.
Not surprised at the reviews. The game is fun but it's no more than average. I said it before and others have said it, they need to make massive updates to the core of the game over time for it to be a great experience (a la Diablo III). Expansions can't just be more hollow worlds and a higher level cap, most will be bored of it by then.
Strikes are great, PvE is too empty, missions are boring and repetitive, and the Crucible seems horribly unbalanced. Interested to check out the raids when I hit the cap. The clan system is a nightmare.
My man, Bungie's best series.
Strikes are great, PvE is too empty, missions are boring and repetitive, and the Crucible seems horribly unbalanced. Interested to check out the raids when I hit the cap. The clan system is a nightmare.
My man, Bungie's best series.
NullPointer
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Definitely true. But I'd expect more casual players to hit the 20th level soft cap pretty soon too.
At that point what is there to PVE besides replaying the handful of strikes?
With the mention of Shadowrun, he's probably referring to the pvp. The thing I really like about the game is the pvp, but if his expectations were that high I don't blame him for being pissed.
The playable Alpha and Beta allowed me to make the decision. I liked the way the game played. I liked the atmosphere. The music during the Sepkis Prime fight was tops. I had fun.
Disclaimer: I like Destiny too but I definitely see the actual, concrete flaws people are bringing up. (not related to pie in the sky unrealistic expectations)
I think you underestimate how easy it is to get to level 20 in Destiny, especially if you do PVP.
PopcornMegaphone
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There are exceptions I'm sure, but generally I think Metacritic is a good barometer of how the mainstream gaming community perceives a game. Obviously, Metacritic can't comment on your specific tastes.
Agreed with all this.
The game continue to amaze me... I was not expecting a sword battle
That is the only time in the entire campaign that the gameplay gets mixed up even a little bit. Savor it. Because it will never happen again.
The game continue to amaze me... I was not expecting a sword battle
let me tell you about Warframe
media and certain posters alike. I wanted this game to be awesome. it became objectively monotonous almost off the bat.
i think the ars technica and polygon reviews were spot on. i personally think anything higher than a 6 is being too nice. Given what was hyped and sold to us, Bungie and Activision should be hung out to dry.
While I can see bungie being stubborn about their products, you really think Activision gives a shit if gamers think its hollow? Most games are hollow. Activision cares about sales, and part of sales are DLC, not FREE DLC.
But I believe it has gotten the justice it deserves in the court of public opinion. That's what really matters. I've been extremely happy with the reception of that game.
Now for The Evil Within...
ethomaz
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Ohhh I see but it can be added in the future... this game is to be live for a long time... that why I like it... it is like Warframe that gets new things every month.
I love bungie.They both have a dreadful multiplayer. Tried the crucible last night and holy crap what a mess.
However...The gunplay is miles better in destiny and that is why i keep coming back to it. The beautiful art style and gameplay is the only reedeming quality in destiny and i have to admit, its pretty fun.
Its just a shame the campaign and content is so bare bones.
MHWilliams
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Heh. I'm just messing around.
See, a lot of people can't judge and make decisions about an entire game by gunplay, atmosphere, and music alone. For many, content, scope, story, and mission variety are equally important, and those are things we didn't learn from the alpha/beta.
Believing in mindless hype seems to be more the issue here. The Metacritic score is a fair assessment. It's a solid 7. Going below that would put it dangerously close to Shadow Fall which is a significantly worse sci-fi shooter than Destiny by far.
I never did get to play the game. Kept getting the "Centipede" error and the "Currant" error. On my home network. Over and over. I forwarded all the ports they suggested in their article. Absolutely no effect at all. Spent $100 on the limited edition and spent 3 days of my limited free time dealing with bullshit just to try and get in the game. Ended up returning it to Fred Meyer this morning where I got it, and since they didn't have any more limited editions available, they refunded me. I'm kinda sad about it.
Sales of Destiny 2 will hinge heavily on whether gamers see value in Destiny 1. If they immediately start cranking DLC that is more of the same empty world why would we expect any less for Destiny 2? Free DLC can co-exist with a paid expansion. Diablo III had many many free updates that made the experience exceptionally better and then released a substantial expansion. This is coming from the same publisher.
Lol pretty much. Its the only set piece in the entire game,
blazeuk
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I'm enjoying the game right now, but it's pretty clear that there isn't much depth or variety to it, Bungie have promoted it as being some epic quest on a grand scale and what we got was a few fairly small and empty worlds with a lot of repetitive missions. I'm not really sure where they can go with the game long term other than planning Destiny 2 based on the feedback they've got, I don't think it's possible to fix the worst of it's flaws without a complete overhaul. I think reviews around 7/10 are about where I'd place it too, the gunplay is enjoyable but behind that there's not much of anything else to keep your attention long term. Raids are being pushed as the thing to look out for but they're not easily accessible to everyone and I'm also not convinced it'll be much different than what we're doing now.
It'll be interesting to see how well Destiny 2 does in the future, it's almost certainly going to happen but they're going to need to pump the same kind of money into marketing it again to convince people they've fixed everything that isn't liked. It's possible though, just look at Assassin's Creed.
It'll be interesting to see how well Destiny 2 does in the future, it's almost certainly going to happen but they're going to need to pump the same kind of money into marketing it again to convince people they've fixed everything that isn't liked. It's possible though, just look at Assassin's Creed.
Woo-Fu
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I don't think he needs an insomnia cure.
Ol No Bones
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This game has sparked some of the most mixed reactions of any game.
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The game continue to amaze me... I was not expecting a sword battle
I'm not trying to downplay your excitement about that but that was basically the Chieftain-Hammer we've used several times in Halo 3. Beside that there were actual energy swords too.
That's the promise, but the worrying thing is that the most substantial stuff is probably going to be in the $20 expansion packs. On top of the $60 we've already paid.
Bungie has shown a few of the upcoming free updates in a image, though, so we'll definitely get some post-launch content. But I'm going to bet that missions with more substantial mechanics/environments is going to cost you more than the asking price of the full game alone.
ArkkAngel007
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You rang?
The game tries to please everyone, cater to too many disparate tastes. It's not surprising that that type of design causes mixed reactions.
That's not even addressing the 'collection of parts' vs. 'unified experience' problem the game has going on.
BruiserBear
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I suspect Destiny is going to follow the exact arc of Assassin's Creed. First game sold fantastically well, and reviewed as a 7. Solid in many ways, but also very flawed.
The sequel came along and was a much better game that nailed the concept and justified the sales, solidifying itself as a legit major franchise.
The sequel came along and was a much better game that nailed the concept and justified the sales, solidifying itself as a legit major franchise.
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