ProvenDeadly
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I think it fell short of even modest expectations.
Destiny - Review Thread
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I think it fell short of even modest expectations.
Three planets and a moon, technically.
The Librarian
Banned
It's gonna be, like, a huge ass post when I get around to it.
Well, there's that planet that you watch (shitty, unskippable) cutscenes on, too.
Eddie Griffin
Banned
Doesn't this mean that oddly, Titanfall is the highest rated AAA retail FPS this gen?
FPS dont got the review pool they used to. All that's left is COD AW, BF5, and Halo 5 to change FPS up a bit.
FPS dont got the review pool they used to. All that's left is COD AW, BF5, and Halo 5 to change FPS up a bit.
I feel that Assassin's Creed 1->2 comparisons don't go so well for Destiny. Back in 2007-2009 console market was far more forgiving than it is now. Besides, Assassin's Creed is one of a kind game even to this day, Destiny largely just aims at shooter market in the end where there are several other games fighting for the audience. Bungie is probably under some tight deadline imposed by their contract too when ubi montreal was an internal studio with the most man power in the industry. Assassin's Creed's LOST like, conspiracy driven story had a lot of hooks, as silly as it is now it did have its audience and every game had some hook in the end to keep you interested, LOST itself was kinda big deal at the time, not anymore of course but then, Destiny has none of these things. There isn't really any reason to come back for story right now. Nobody cares despite the super cool setting they just wasted. I'm still in disbelief how wasted it is...
Are there some other success stories like that which could be more applicable here?
Are there some other success stories like that which could be more applicable here?
Poodlestrike
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I actually kind of like the Rift scenes. If they weren't entirely separate from the rest of the game, I think they'd hold up pretty well.
Far Cry 4 will be the followup to a game that scored 91 on Metacritic. Be interesting to see how that one goes over.
That remains on the menu so you can click on it and scroll around in nothingness.
Probably because of famitsu and maybe other examples.
TheChewyWaffles
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The irony of their explanation is that having people in the game, except for friends for fire teams, means almost nothing in terms of how the game actually plays.
Man, the fact people keep mentiong AC1 must mean it really has become the poster child of a shaky first game which you'd expect devs to avoid 7 years in.
Been interesting to watch the reactions to Destiny come in over time. I haven't played the game myself, I came really close to picking it up on release day but decided against it.
I played the Alpha and I came away from it thinking it played nice but felt completely barren - and it seems that the actual game does not improve that aspect at all. I feel like we're in some weird bizzaro land with this game where people are actually championing that the game will get better with DLC. Yeah! Spend more money on an average game to make it what it should be at launch.
I played the Alpha and I came away from it thinking it played nice but felt completely barren - and it seems that the actual game does not improve that aspect at all. I feel like we're in some weird bizzaro land with this game where people are actually championing that the game will get better with DLC. Yeah! Spend more money on an average game to make it what it should be at launch.
I am really curious about how Far Cry 4 will turn out. For both Far Cry 2 and 3 I loved them for the first half but as soon as the second half opened up I lost all interest because I felt I had already done enough (especially in 3 where I had already leveled up all my gear by the time I reached the second island).
Its looking good. Although I wish it was instead a full blown BD sequel or they somehow worked Vaas into it.
Yup, I think Far Cry 2 and 3's pacing was immensely damaged by their open world design (damnit, Ubisoft).
I would like to see another Far Cry game designed more in the style of Far Cry 1 and Crysis 1.
ArkkAngel007
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I don't see how Destiny could be prevented from having a come back, and AC really didn't have anything to do with LOST unless you really stretch the mystery/conspiracy angle.
If Bungie can actually demonstrate they learned from this, and not just talk about it, then there's no reason why people won't come back except on shortsighted principle.
I'm looking into making a thread to address some of that stuff in regards to blacklisting and such. I'll send you a PM when it's up.
You've summed it up for me there, too.
If I was a professional critic, I would probably make the same complaints about missions being repetitive, about the clan and social interaction system being lacking and the story being hidden away in the grimoire.
I'm not though. I'm just a consumer and I'm really happy with Destiny. I've played it solidly for a week and I'm still finding more things to do and enjoy. Yes, they all involve blasting of some kind, but I enjoy blasting.
I feel sorry for Bungie, tbh. To me, this is a good (maybe great) game. I wasn't expecting it to be so divisive.
Perhaps something like the way unique mobs in Diablo III have a variety of random properties that change up the strategies required to fight them.
SOMETHING, ANYTHING to mix it up would have been nice. I've played a lot of shooters and a lot of loot games over the years, Destiny has nothing to keep me interested.
Destiny is an amalgamation of ideas from other games, but it doesn't take enough. And it certainly doesn't innovate enough. So it feels lame.
by LOST-like I mean the shock/cliffhanger driven narrative, stuff like that.
I guess one example could be FFXIV ARR, it was really really tough to pull that off, though the base game was utter garbage in that case. Destiny isn't like that.
Eddie Griffin
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I think this game will be hit hard by hype backfire, but at least bungies first multiplat game wasn't as bad as...Fuse.... Not sure what insomniac was thinking with that one.
russian box
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does anyone have a link to that image explaining why destiny was hyped and why it was wrong?
its an image of text of somebody breaking down all the points, it says posted 18 hours ago on it.
I can't seem to find it now
its an image of text of somebody breaking down all the points, it says posted 18 hours ago on it.
I can't seem to find it now
I really enjoyed Fuse, liked it much more than Resistance 1 and 2! Very underrated that game.
Where is all of this information coming from? We had very few details on the project. We didn't know what it was, when it had started, how many people were working on it, and the reasons it was canned. Sony did not cancel a first party game 3 years into development because destiny was coming out and they thought "Oh well I guess we can flush our investment down the toilet."
I don't need the bosses to be like Diablo.
Lower their HP pools and give them more interesting mechanics.
Why aren't there more bosses with a lot of destructable weapons on them that you could aim at to weaken or make the fight easier.
Levers or such that would change the environment you're in to make Void/Solar/Lightning etc do more or less damage.
Make certain dudes immune to damage UNLESS you hit their weak spots .... and let them evolve through the course of the fight and change their weakspots.
Bosses that you can melee .... instead of being literally one shot by every boss if you get into melee range.
Do shit like Deathwing had in WoW ... where you have to knock armor plates off of him to expose his weak points.
I'd love more interactivity with the environment during fights ... maybe you can flip levers to make large fixed turret emplacements available during the fight ... or vehicles.....
Adds that heal the boss ... or give the boss shields ...
I don't get it. I'm no game developer but have played a lot of games ... why the developers couldn't implement ANY of this in the strikes is beyond me. This was all stuff I literally thought of in 5 minutes.
AT LEAST MAKE THESE "BOSSES" NOT BE RETEXTURES OR LARGER/SMALLER VERSIONS OF NORMAL ENEMIES.
As someone who finds destiny lacking I'm baffled titanfall scored so well considering even just the multiplayer portion of destiny blows titanfall away.
It's especially crazy given Bungies talent and pedigree.
In before Xur.
Awesome to hear as I LOVE Titanfall more than you hate me.
ArkkAngel007
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And as Jeff explains iirc, he was only put into that situation because the new owner of the parent company at GameSpot wasn't familiar with these tactics and panicked. I'm pretty sure that individual is no longer with the company either because of that maneuver.
Most outlets these days can't be bullied that way. I think there's a writeup on Kotaku from a year back with Stephen going into detail about all the shit PR folks try to pull, including veiled to not-so-veiled intimidation.
I know this is an opinion but man its a bad one
Eddie Griffin
Banned
Probably because the mechs and parkour changed things up a bit to reviewers. Both lack content though.
We are still waiting for a true next gen FPS.
blame space
Banned
i like this game.
I like it too. Can we be friends?
WrenchNinja
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A vendor will totally increase the breadth and scope of Destiny
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
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I'm a little shocked at the reviews. Expected the media to at least give it 9s.
I'm having a blast!
What's so cool about Destiny's PvP? It's so basic.
Titanfall is innovative, whether you want to admit it or not. No other game combines mech combat with infantry combat like Titanfall does, not even to say anything of the ridiculously fun wallrunning. The 16 shipping maps are expertly designed around the game's innovative mechanics, as well. Some of the best competitive FPS maps I've ever played.
Titanfall is certainly disappointing in proportion to the E3 200+ awards etc hype, but it's still a fucking great game when it stands on its own. The core gameplay is extremely enjoyable. And they've even patched in most of the silly bullshit "content" CoD-generation gamers demanded that wasn't there at launch.
Most people who stated such things, well and actually had any justification whatsoever, tended to put it in a far more realistic light. Publishers have never directly paid for high review scores. They don't need to. The system itself pushes reviewers towards high review scores. They're reviewing the products of the people who pay them. And they rely on those people giving them early access for review, way early access for previews, etc. If the people giving them their products for review don't see a net benefit in it, they may very well simply stop doing it. Not like ethics are a thing for games publishers, and critic/media unions damned sure aren't.
In the case of Destiny it looks like they chose to snub the review system in multiple ways. Compare the general site layout and presence of the Destiny compared to Titanfall and it seems quite clear that Destiny spent not even a fraction of what Titanfall did on marketing when it came to review sites. They may have had the biggest budget of all time, but it seems like review sites got left out in the cold. They furthered this snubbing by not only setting a day 1+ embargo, but actually refusing to even send out review copies to sites.
So in a nutshell, I think this game is somewhat indicative of quite the opposite. It's getting completely shit upon critically, and it seems to deserve it. However, so did a number of other recent releases that came out. However, the offered a bit more favor towards review sites and oddly enough ended up quite a bit higher review averages.
theytookourjobz
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I like it too. But if I'm done with Destiny after a few weeks, it'll feel like a pretty big disappointment.
Fbh
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Also, poor Sony just can't get the online shooter experience they want so much.
Killzone didn't meet expectations and while Destiny isn't exclusive they sure put a lot of effort in positioning the Ps4 as the best place to play it (exclusive content, exclusive ads, exclusive alpha, console bundle, Destiny showing up in every Sony conference, etc).
Now this also turned out to be an ok game that's just that... "ok"
Killzone didn't meet expectations and while Destiny isn't exclusive they sure put a lot of effort in positioning the Ps4 as the best place to play it (exclusive content, exclusive ads, exclusive alpha, console bundle, Destiny showing up in every Sony conference, etc).
Now this also turned out to be an ok game that's just that... "ok"
I should hate you because you like a game I find to be horrible? That seems flimsier than titanfalls frame rate on xbone.
Facism
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Omg
I think it's cos you were chatting shit bout the man in the ungagged thread lol.
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