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[slapnuts]

Its not a bad game in all honesty but for all the marketing and hype like Titan Fall received....these games should of had much more meat on the bone for what it was hyped out to be...both Destiny and TF.

I suppose the sequels to both games will be the deciding factor if these new IP's get set in stone or fizzle away off into the winds.

By the way....I never really agreed with people calling a game that scores in the 7's and 8's crap games. Although when games like this are hyped and marketed to death, even having their own console editions...i suppose these types of games really should be up there in the review scores.

Edit: I am a little tipsy right now, hope im making sense lol

 

[Alebelly]

Its not a bad game in all honesty but for all the marketing and hype like Titan Fall received....these games should of had much more meat on the bone for what it was hyped out to be...both Destiny and TF.

I suppose the sequels to both games will be the deciding factor if these new IP's get set in stone or fizzle away off into the winds.

By the way....I never really agreed with people calling a game that scores in the 7's and 8's crap games. Although when games like this are hyped and marketed to death, even having their own console editions...i suppose these types of games really should be up there in the review scores.

Edit: I am a little tipsy right now, hope im making sense lol

It's Titanfall you silly drunkard

 

[ArkkAngel007]

Someone I know personally is already playing through Alien Isolation and The Evil Within.

I knew Isolation was one of them, but good to hear Evil Within is getting out there. Now let's just hope for a good reception for the sake of that genre.

 

[Jomjom]

Seriously what is a Titanfall truther? Wouldn't that be Geoff Keighley? He dropped a lot of truth in that Final Hours of Titanfall.

 

[Alebelly]

I knew Isolation was one of them, but good to hear Evil Within is getting out there. Now let's just hope for a good reception for the sake of that genre.

It's going to be good, I have no doubts

 

[Killer]

Just tries some Crucible and it feels like a tacked on MP mode that you would find on an otherwise single player game.

I really don't like PVP. It's weird coming from the guys who made HALO.

 

[Lord Panda]

Yes. More so for this game than most.

If the series starts out on the wrong foot with consumers, then they might start caring. Low review scores are something that publishers are concerned about, as evidenced by a tendency to reward developers with bonuses for achieving certain metascores. (IE the Fallout New Vegas fiasco) If players feel the first Destiny shortchanged them out of sixty dollars, that will likely impact sales of the expansion packs and sequels.

I think Bungie could make it up pretty easily by offering some solid free content and tweaking some of the lesser areas of the game, however.

Yeah at least Bungie laid a firm foundation for Destiny to expand and improve over time. A great story-driven experience (Halo production level SP / Co-op campaigns) in the Destiny universe would be fantastic. I just have this feeling (and I'm not alone in this) that Bungie / Activision kinda knew the type of reviews that would be coming their way.

Someone I know personally is already playing through Alien Isolation and The Evil Within.

I hope my Oculus VR arrives in time for Aliens.

 

[Danomeon]

I'm so confused. Everyone loved the beta right? I would've expected at least 80%.

I think the issue was that the beta was a slice of content from the beginning of the game.It wasn't the most exciting thing ever, but the handful of missions and prospect of an awesome endgame still rang true in the distance. When people got the full product, it turned out that the rest of the game was equally exciting as that slice of content. That one mission type was the whole game, that story ambiguity never lifted, and those Earth missions were 1/4 of the story missions.

Not to mention back then we didn't know how grindy the reputation collection would be, or how the endgame bosses substituted massive amounts of health for interesting mechanics.

 

[watership]

I'm so confused. Everyone loved the beta right? I didn't play it, but I was expecting a 90% from the impressions I read on GAF.

The beta was almost 1/4 of the game, I think people expected that much of earth was locked away still, and there was more to see.

 

[Coiote]

Wrong thread, sorry.

 

[Kanann]

Personally I disappointed, but still a fine game. 6 or below are too much.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

Seriously what is a Titanfall truther? Wouldn't that be Geoff Keighley? He dropped a lot of truth in that Final Hours of Titanfall.

It really isn't that hard to figure out, what he is alluding to is BS reviews. Personally, I have no skin in the game. If people want to hold reviews to a higher standard, go for it.

TF pulled a much higher rating than it deserved, really don't think there is much debate to be had here. Destiny is pulling around the rating it deserves ( I would still rate it an 80-85).

TF is currently pulling a 86 on Meta.

Destiny is currently pulling a 74 on Meta.

 

[Effect]

They're just going to ignore or spin it. Bungie and Activision already made bank so do they really care about what the reviews say about their game?

They should. The reviews and impressions of the game from players could cause sales to stop in their tracks. Kill any momentum there might be as far as a sequel is concerned. It could certainly have a negative impact on the DLC sales if player retention and interest is low. People bought due to the marketing and what they thought the game was going to be. The reality is always a different thing. With these review scores there is no doubt there has to be disappointment out there as reviews are normally more positive then they should generally or just a general lack of disinterest forming as many people run through the content and maybe get bored with the PvP.

Activision has their money from the initial sales. That's making back the investment. The concern is keeping players playing and buying the game, the DLC and spreading good word of mouth. Twitch numbers for Destiny were pretty high on the launch day and seemed to drop off significantly today it seemed. I expect it will drop off even more next week. That is what happen with TitanFall. The interest was high in the very beginning and then nose dived. That has to be the concern with Destiny for Activision.

 

[CyReN]

Has Bungie commented on the reception yet?

One of their employees tweeted about it earlier but later deleted, said to wait for more modes to come out before making a verdict.

but again, how about you release the full game? Crazy I know.

edit: found it

 

[HighResTomato]

Destiny doesn't look real, but rather, it looks like painted concept art, meticulously assembled and presented to you at all times. Instead, it's the suggestion, through Destiny's concept, its soundtrack and its visual presentation, that Destiny is big. That there's a whole universe out there to explore, a reality worth discovering.

There isn't, though.

Got to give it to Gies, he's spot on with this.

Edit: Hot damn, read the whole review and it's so on point.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

They should. The reviews and impressions of the game of players could cause sales to stop in their tracks. Kill any momentum there might be as far as a sequel is concerned. It could certainly have a negative impact on the DLC sales if player retention and interest is low. People bought due to the marketing and what they thought the game was going to be. The reality of is always a different thing. With these review scores there is no doubt there has to be disappointment out there or just a general lack of disinterest forming as many people run through he content and maybe get bored with the PvP.

Activision has their money from the initial sales. That's making back the investment. The concern is keeping players playing and buying the game, the DLC and spreading good word of mouth. Twitch numbers for Destiny were pretty high on the launch day and seemed to drop off significantly today it seemed. I expect it will drop off even more next week. That is what happen with TitanFall. The interest was high in the very beginning and then nose dived. That has to be the concern with Destiny for activision.

It happened to TF, but TF got fairly good-great reviews. Doesn't that slightly undermine your entire post? Because it sounds like you are saying reviews matter.

 

[Regret Upon Approval]

One of their employees tweeted about it earlier but later deleted, said to wait for more modes to come out before making a verdict.

bu again, how about you release the full game? Crazy I know.

They said early reviews would be lacking because of not accounting for the social aspect.
Well, that reason ended up being lacking as it is also hardly social at this point in time.

So I'm going to be hesitant that these upcoming modes and whatnot are going to be any sort of gamechanger.

 

[GenericUser]

Nobody will ever give bungie again access to such a ridiculous high budget. I think thats for the better.

 

[Steel]

They should. The reviews and impressions of the game of players could cause sales to stop in their tracks. Kill any momentum there might be as far as a sequel is concerned. It could certainly have a negative impact on the DLC sales if player retention and interest is low. People bought due to the marketing and what they thought the game was going to be. The reality of is always a different thing. With these review scores there is no doubt there has to be disappointment out there or just a general lack of disinterest forming as many people run through he content and maybe get bored with the PvP.

Activision has their money from the initial sales. That's making back the investment. The concern is keeping players playing and buying the game, the DLC and spreading good word of mouth. Twitch numbers for Destiny were pretty high on the launch day and seemed to drop off significantly today it seemed. I expect it will drop off even more next week. That is what happen with TitanFall. The interest was high in the very beginning and then nose dived. That has to be the concern with Destiny for activision.

You know I seem to recall a bungie interview that said something to the point of "We want to earn the right to make a sequel. If we don't feel like we've earned it, we won't." Which, considering their contract, was obvious PR speak, however it does make me wonder.

 

[Alebelly]

One of their employees tweeted about it earlier but later deleted, said to wait for more modes to come out before making a verdict.

but again, how about you release the full game? Crazy I know.

edit: found it

That is out of context with reality

 

[Bright-Light]

Someone I know personally is already playing through Alien Isolation and The Evil Within.

Hey Shinobi, if you can get your friend to send me that copy of Evil Within immediately, I will give you both $10. That's cold hard cash.
I will PM you with my address.

 

[MormaPope]

The forums on the Bungie site are what you would imagine they would be.

 

[Maninthemirror]

i have been out of the loops on this but I thought EVERYONE loved the Beta. now the full game is not that good as per scores? Care to explain why the shift in opinions?

 

[ArkkAngel007]

Hey Shinobi, if you can get your friend to send me that copy of Evil Within immediately, I will give you both $10. That's cold hard cash.
I will PM you with my address.

You do not bear the seal. You are not worthy.

Spoiler

One of us

 

[Steel]

One of their employees tweeted about it earlier but later deleted, said to wait for more modes to come out before making a verdict.

but again, how about you release the full game? Crazy I know.

edit: found it

Damn. Dat vendor is changing opinions on the game I'm sure.

 

[Seanspeed]

I hope my Oculus VR arrives in time for Aliens.

There is not going to be Oculus support for Alien Isolation(that we know of, at least). They only had a small demo slice made for the one convention. Hopefully it comes at some point, but there's no news of it at the moment.

i have been out of the loops on this but I thought EVERYONE loved the Beta. now the full game is not that good as per scores? Care to explain why the shift in opinions?

Well a lot of people assumed the beta had a ton of stuff just being withheld from it, so everyone was giving it the benefit of the doubt. It turns out it was quite representative of what the final game is.

 

[Bright-Light]

One of their employees tweeted about it earlier but later deleted, said to wait for more modes to come out before making a verdict.

but again, how about you release the full game? Crazy I know.

edit: found it

"It's a shame some people paid $60 for Destiny before Xur, our first events, and the raid were turned on. We are just getting started."

If they want a free pass on the game, only for it to be judged when they release certain content, then they should have considered making the game F2P, and then charging for this soon to be unlocked stuff.

If you are charging $60, reviewers have a right to let consumers know what they are purchasing.

 

[MormaPope]

i have been out of the loops on this but I thought EVERYONE loved the Beta. now the full game is not that good as per scores? Care to explain why the shift in opinions?

The full game is the Beta.

What people did in the beta amounted to being the entire game. You get better loot to kill the same enemies and to use in PvP.

 

[jem0208]

i have been out of the loops on this but I thought EVERYONE loved the Beta. now the full game is not that good as per scores? Care to explain why the shift in opinions?

People realised that the beta actually was completely representative of the rest of the game. The story didn't improve, the missions didn't get less repetitive, the objectives didn't get any less dull etc.

 

[DeadlyVirus]

i have been out of the loops on this but I thought EVERYONE loved the Beta. now the full game is not that good as per scores? Care to explain why the shift in opinions?

The full game is like the beta, but repeated 4 or 5 times. People were expecting the beta to be a sample of what the game could be and and not all the game could be.

And you could finish all the content in the beta in a afternoon.

 

[Into]

Those HD re releases dont seem all that bad now do they? I rather play Wind Waker HD, The Last of Us Remastered and Halo 2 again than the latest overhyped to the sky new IPs such as Watch Dogs, Titanfall and Destiny.

Good luck to Sunset Overdrive, Drive Club and whatever else is on the horizon, ill stick to Sleeping Dogs and Resident Evil reREreREmake

Sure its the same home cooked meal you have had for years, but at least you know what meal you are getting, rather than going to some new fancy hyped restaurant and coming home with violent diarrhea as a result

 

[Timedog]

The full game is the Beta.

What people did in the beta amounted to being the entire game. You get better loot to kill the same enemies and to use in PvP.

And it only has like a couple planets? So it's like Phantasy Star Online, the shooter?

 

[SighFight]

Im quite happy to have pre-ordered the game which is something I normally don't do. After reading this thread and the reviews I probably would have not bought it and I am actually enjoying this a lot. I play a lot of coop games with a buddy and to be honest the story is irrelevant in almost all games and watching long cutscenes is interrupting the cooperative game flow.

The mission variety could be better and I hope they have some stuff coming up but for now it is a fun coop shooter.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

The full game is the Beta.

What people did in the beta amounted to being the entire game. You get better loot to kill the same enemies and to use in PvP.

Damn glad that I bought Destiny fully expecting the same gameplay/game as the Beta.

 

[Effect]

The full game is like the beta, but repeated 4 or 5 times. People were expecting the beta to be a sample of what the game could be and and not all the game could be.

And you could finish all the content in the beta in a afternoon.

There were a lot of people saying this was going to be the case too. Like so many other games they were shot down.

 

[Leyasu]

I got coworkers that are already Lv.20+

For me, I can definitely see how marathoning it like that would be a big no no. For the most part, I've just been putting maybe 2 hours a day. Lv.9 right now and haven't reached burn out yet. Hell, I just go to the Moon.
It's a solid game but I am definitely glad that Journos are calling it right for a change.

Lol sorry I should have been more precise.. 3 days since I bought it, at roughly 2 hours per sitting!! I'm only lvl 8 myself.

The game is not really doing anything for me

 

[MormaPope]

And it only has like a couple planets? So it's like Phantasy Star Online, the shooter?

Think there are three planets and the moon, main missions and strikes (co-op side missions) at each location. Phantasy Star Online has better socializing elements, and has a lot more content compared to Destiny.

Damn glad that I bought Destiny fully expecting the same gameplay/game as the Beta.

I mean, some people are happy with Destiny and some aren't, it is what it is.

 

[mgcemir]

Hehe, am one of the few who didn't like the beta and cancelled my pre-order and told my friends not to buy it till reviews kick in. Now ill just w8 a month and buy it for 20 bucks.

 

[Vibranium]

They're just going to ignore or spin it. Bungie and Activision already made bank so do they really care about what the reviews say about their game?

Activision don't have any reason to care (nor should they), but Bungie will if there are any bonus deals based upon Metacritic scores. I'd imagine the studio is somewhat concerned.

 

[quetz67]

I only read the Gamespot review but it sounds like Halo's repeating corridors again.

Would have bought for a good story with a nice share of "mystery" but it sounds like a huge borefest when playing it solo.

 

[Timedog]

Think there are three planets and the moon, main missions and strikes (co-op side missions) at each location. Phantasy Star Online has better socializing elements, and has a lot more content compared to Destiny.

I'm talking the original. I think there were 4 areas and I don't remember tons of socializing stuff. It was just do the exact same thing over and over in 4 areas to get better loot and gain levels.

 

[doby]

The full game is like the beta, but repeated 4 or 5 times. People were expecting the beta to be a sample of what the game could be and and not all the game could be.

And you could finish all the content in the beta in a afternoon.

People need to learn that when developers release 'betas' these days they're actually just demos and wholey representable of the full game. It's all PR speak to make gamers feel special.

 

[subversus]

People need to learn that when developers release 'betas' these days they're actually just demos and wholey representable of the full game.

Not on Early Access.

 

[Griss]

Those HD re releases dont seem all that bad now do they? I rather play Wind Waker HD, The Last of Us Remastered and Halo 2 again than the latest overhyped to the sky new IPs such as Watch Dogs, Titanfall and Destiny.

Good luck to Sunset Overdrive, Drive Club and whatever else is on the horizon, ill stick to Sleeping Dogs and Resident Evil reREreREmake

Sure its the same home cooked meal you have had for years, but at least you know what meal you are getting, rather than going to some new fancy hyped restaurant and coming home with violent diarrhea as a result

Haha, that's one way of looking at it. Another way is to feel a deep sadness that with 7 years post-Halo 3 experience and 500 million dollars they were unable to make a better, more coherent game. That's really sad from a design point of view. I can't understand how they botched it so badly.

Hehe, am one of the few who didn't like the beta and cancelled my pre-order and told my friends not to buy it till reviews kick in. Now ill just w8 a month and buy it for 20 bucks.

The likes of you and me are feeling pretty smug at the moment, huh? I was all-in before that beta, but saw through the whole charade within an hour.

Still absolutely astonished that the Metacritic is quite this low, though. I'd be seriously alarmed if I was Bungie or Activision. This is a 10 year project, not a 'sell lots of copies on day 1' project. I'll bet that they are stunned by some of this reaction. I think they were really drinking the cool-aid over there.

People need to learn that when developers release 'betas' these days they're actually just demos and wholey representable of the full game. It's all PR speak to make gamers feel special.

Yes. For AAA games, yes. I've been saying it for years. Yet you still get people saying 'Large issues X, Y and Z could be fixed, this is just a beta', or 'The full game might have more core gameplay to it than this vertical slice shows.' The first is never the case, the second rarely so.

 

[MormaPope]

I'm talking the original. I think there were 4 areas and I don't remember tons of socializing stuff. It was just do the exact same thing over and over in 4 areas to get better loot and gain levels.

Yeah, its similar in that regard.

Its seemingly easier to communicate and organize people in Phantasy Star Online versus Destiny.

 

[Seanspeed]

There were a lot of people saying this was going to be the case too. Like so many other games they were shot down.

Well it wouldn't be right to jump to conclusions back then like some people did, either. Nobody knew whether it was going to be the case or not. So it would have been unreasonable to assert that the beta would be all that the game is, and it would also have been unreasonable to say it definitely wouldn't be all that the game is. I'd actually say that since betas *usually do* only represent a fraction of the features and concepts of the full game, the people claiming there would be more to the game were at least playing safer odds.

 

[Alebelly]

Activision don't have any reason to care (nor should they), but Bungie will if there are any bonus deals based upon Metacritic scores. I'd imagine the studio is somewhat concerned.

There must be some crazy internal politics going on if they are all playing it and are convinced this should set the world on fire

 

[AngryPuppy]

Angrypuppy, c'mon now, other people have opinions too

 

[ArkkAngel007]

People need to learn that when developers release 'betas' these days they're actually just demos and wholey representable of the full game. It's all PR speak to make gamers feel special.

Games tend to still build up from what is shown in the demo and have variety. Never really got that except maybe a bit of a challenge boost from Venus and the Sword of Crota mission.

Fundamental mechanics and all the technical stuff, yes, that stuff tends to be concrete. But the game being an endless loop without any attempts to even mask it? Not so much.

As for stuff that was already known functionally in the beta and being criticized: just because they were already known issues/elements doesn't mean they no longer factor in when looking at the main game.

 

[Regret Upon Approval]

People need to learn that when developers release 'betas' these days they're actually just demos and wholey representable of the full game. It's all PR speak to make gamers feel special.

After this along with BF 3+4, "it is just a beta" is a remark I won't be feeling.