UPDATE: Adrian Peterson Suspended Indefinitely, NFL Still A Bunch Of Clowns

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Vikings Say Adrian Peterson Will Practice This Week, Play On Sunday

EDIT: Also, before commenting on this, please familiarize yourself with what exactly happened.

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Vikings PR said:
Today's decision was made after significant thought, discussion and consideration. As evidenced by our decision to deactivate Adrian from yesterday's game, this is clearly a very important issue. On Friday, we felt it was in the best interests of the organization to step back, evaluate the situation, and not rush to judgment given the seriousness of this matter. At that time, we made the decision that we felt was best for the Vikings and all parties involved.

To be clear, we take very seriously any matter that involves the welfare of a child. At this time, however, we believe this is a matter of due process and we should allow the legal system to proceed so we can come to the most effective conclusions and then determine the appropriate course of action. This is a difficult path to navigate, and our focus is on doing the right thing. Currently we believe we are at a juncture where the most appropriate next step is to allow the judicial process to move forward.

We will continue to monitor the situation closely and support Adrian's fulfillment of his legal responsibilities throughout this process.
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Total inconsistency from the NFL. Why he isn't suspended AT LEAST 6 games per the new NFL violence policy is beyond me.
 
Does the new domestic violence policy make a distinction about being guilty of a crime, or is it fairly vague?

I mean, on one hand, indicted=/=guilty, but good lord...come on, Minnesota. I get that he's the lynchpin of the whole team and if he's not there, ticket sales are garbage, but Jesus, some things are more important than that. Just take the damn L.
 
Also Greg Hardy has been convicted on two counts of domestic violence and is still playing for the Panthers. And Ray McDonald played for the San Francisco 49ers last night while being investigated for abusing his pregnant girlfriend.

Fucking gross.
 
ElectricBlanketFire said:
Total inconsistency from the NFL. Why he isn't suspended AT LEAST 6 games per the new NFL violence policy is beyond me.
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I'm pretty sure they don't issue suspensions until after they have a trial. He won't miss any games until then. I may be wrong though. Rice was going to be banned for the first two games of the season because his incident and trial happened in the off season.
 
BronsonLee said:
Does the new domestic violence policy make a distinction about being guilty of a crime, or is it fairly vague?

I mean, on one hand, indicted=/=guilty, but good lord...come on, Minnesota. I get that he's the lynchpin of the whole team and if he's not there, ticket sales are garbage, but Jesus, some things are more important than that. Just take the damn L.
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The NFL has more than enough to at the very least suspend him according to the new policy on physical violence.
 
BronsonLee said:
Does the new domestic violence policy make a distinction about being guilty of a crime, or is it fairly vague?
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It's vague. It's under the umbrella of their conduct policy, which allows them to punish players regardless of what a court finds. But, with the players union and appealing, it's difficult to enforce a lot of the suspensions.

In the case of Peterson and Greg Hardy, the Panthers player who is appealing a suspension for domestic abuse, the teams made them healthy scratches last week... Not the league. A difference here is that if your team suspends you for a game, they still have to pay you. If the league suspends you, and it gets upheld in the appeals process, you forfeit your salary for those games.

So, with Peterson, he'd be getting paid his game salary and weekly practice stipend despite not practicing or playing.

AkuMifune said:
Also Greg Hardy has been convicted on two counts of domestic violence and is still playing for the Panthers. And Ray McDonald played for the San Francisco 49ers last night while being investigated for abusing his pregnant girlfriend.

Fucking gross.
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The collective bargaining agreement between the league and the players association specifically requires that players who are appealing a suspension (Greg Hardy) will get paid and continue playing in their role. Hardy was suspended, but he's appealing. As long as the appeals process takes place, Hardy will continue to play. Assuming the appeal falls through, he probably won't serve his suspension until next year.
 
AkuMifune said:
Also Greg Hardy has been convicted on two counts of domestic violence and is still playing for the Panthers. And Ray McDonald played for the San Francisco 49ers last night while being investigated for abusing his pregnant girlfriend.

Fucking gross.
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Greg Hardy was deactivated yesterday. A little late for that.

McDonald should play. He hasn't been charged with anything and there's no photos or video that we know of.
 
Zen_Arcade said:
I'm pretty sure they don't issue suspensions until after they have a trial. He won't miss any games until then. I may be wrong though. Rice was going to be banned for the first two games of the season because his incident and trial happened in the off season.
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Almost certain they don't need a conviction.
 
Zen_Arcade said:
I'm pretty sure they don't issue suspensions until after they have a trial. He won't miss any games until then. I may be wrong though. Rice was going to be banned for the first two games of the season because his incident and trial happened in the off season.
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Ray Rice had a trial ?
 
ElectricBlanketFire said:
The NFL has more than enough to at the very least suspend him according to the new policy on physical violence.
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I figured as such. I'm confused as to why they aren't stepping in here. I'm not keen on arguing about the situation, but he should not play until it's resolved, at least in my opinion. It's that bad.

The Albatross said:
It's vague. It's under the umbrella of their conduct policy, which allows them to punish players regardless of what a court finds. But, with the players union and appealing, it's difficult to enforce a lot of the suspensions.

In the case of Peterson and Greg Hardy, the Panthers player who is appealing a suspension for domestic abuse, the teams made them healthy scratches last week... Not the league. A difference here is that if your team suspends you for a game, they still have to pay you. If the league suspends you, and it gets upheld in the appeals process, you forfeit your salary for those games.

So, with Peterson, he'd be getting paid his game salary and weekly practice stipend despite not practicing or playing.
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Ahhhh, that's an important distinction. I wonder if that's their game, then? Say he's playing, and make the NFL do it so they don't have to pay him? He's got a superstar-level contract.
 
absolutely ridiculous.

I'm honestly surprised that they're going with this. it's basically a lost season for the Vikings; if they show signs of life, that's a bonus but they've got a new QB, coach,etc.—there's no win-now mandate. and AP's almost certainly getting cut next season—his cap hit is massive, especially for a RB. Why the Viking and the Panthers are so adamant about standing next to players they're almost certainly going to discard next season (whether because they're out of contract and/or serving some kind of legal/NFL punishment) is beyond me.
 
jmdajr said:
I don't think it ever got to that point. As far as that goes I think it's been settled.
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That was my point. The rules are vague. It has nothing to do with waiting after a trial or for due process. Rules changed depending on the player, the team, the uproar, the day of the week.
 
Mr.Awesome said:
Greg Hardy was deactivated yesterday. A little late for that.

McDonald should play. He hasn't been charged with anything and there's no photos or video that we know of.
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Yeah, I know I need to separate these incidents from each other, as they are all different cases and different circumstances.

Just hard to not lump them together when it's all blowing up right now and exposing just how much the league values money over morality.
 
Kifimbo said:
That was my point. The rules are vague. It has nothing to do with waiting after a trial or for due process. Rules changed depending on the player, the team, the uproar, the day of the week.
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No doubt it's all fucked up. This is WWE level type rules.
Hell that's probably unfair to WWE.
 
jtb said:
absolutely ridiculous.

I'm honestly surprised that they're going with this. it's basically a lost season for the Vikings; if they show signs of life, that's a bonus but they've got a new QB, coach,etc.—there's no win-now mandate. and AP's almost certainly getting cut next season—his cap hit is massive, especially for a RB. Why the Viking and the Panthers are so adamant about standing next to players they're almost certainly going to discard next season (whether because they're out of contract and/or serving some kind of legal/NFL punishment) is beyond me.
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I disagree on this being a lost season, but I agree with you on the bolded. I honestly thought AP had a good chance of being traded to Dallas, which if true makes even less sense why the Vikings wouldn't throw the book at him.
 
ElectricBlanketFire said:
No they don't.

See Ben Roethlisberger.

Ray Rice was never even brought up on charges and he's out indefinitely.
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Ben had due process- they didn't announce the suspension until it was announced that he wasn't going to be charged.

Ray Rice got his 2 game suspension after his court date- the new indefinite one was unwarranted, and he just filed an appeal that he is likely to win and have it overturned.
 
BronsonLee said:
I figured as such. I'm confused as to why they aren't stepping in here. I'm not keen on arguing about the situation, but he should not play until it's resolved, at least in my opinion. It's that bad.



Ahhhh, that's an important distinction. I wonder if that's their game, then? Say he's playing, and make the NFL do it so they don't have to pay him? He's got a superstar-level contract.
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Probably has something to do with it. In general, organizations would rather the league suspend a player than the team sit him because then they get to opt out of paying him for those games.

If the league suspends a player then he forfeits the earnings during that period, but teams cannot suspend a player without pay per the collective bargaining agreement (and generally with good reason.. A crooked owner could suspend players willy nilly to avoid paying them). This is also why Aaron Hernandez is in the process of suing the Patriots, because he was arrested but hadn't been found guilty he technically wasn't suspended by the league... Patriots have a motion to stay that suit until after his multi-murder trial, mostly because he won't win if he's found guilty of murder.

jmdajr said:
No doubt it's all fucked up. This is WWE level type rules.
Hell that's probably unfair to WWE.
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Not even closely related. WWE, to my knowledge, does not have a performers union. There is no guarantee of pay outside of a contract and I think it's pretty rare the wrestlers have multi-year contracts except for the major stars in the business. WWE can suspend you and withhold pay for almost any reason, and then they'd likely settle if there was a dispute. We're also talking a factor of 10 here, there are 1600 NFL players on 53-man rosters, and what, maybe 150 performers signed to WWE + developmental association? (probably less but I don't know the numbers)

biggersmaller said:
I disagree on this being a lost season, but I agree with you on the bolded. I honestly thought AP had a good chance of being traded to Dallas, which if true makes even less sense why the Vikings wouldn't throw the book at him.
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The Vikings "throwing the book at him" means nothing. Peterson is set to make 14.4million this year against the cap. If they sit Peterson for the rest of the season, they'd have to pay him $14.4m to sit, and they'd likely get sued by the players association for collusion, arguing that they sat him to reduce his value to other teams. Aside from benching a player for some games, teams are hamstrung with their contracts and the CBA with how they can discipline players.
 
ronito said:
This here is totally not a PR disaster for the NFL
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It's not. Let's not get it twisted, Ray Rice and Goodell's involvement in the cover up is 1000x worse than this.

Peterson needs familial counseling, not jail time or a firing. The NFL can put a positive spin on this if they add that to whatever fine they will eventually give him.
 
best reply on Deadspin about this:
"what really fucking sucks about this is that he of all people was essentially punished with a short timeout."

Walk off.
 
Fucking sickening. As a packers fan I've always had a tremendous amount of respect for AD, but beating your 4 year old with a tree branch is fucked up beyond belief. If he actually plays this Sunday I hope he gets booed the entire game and I hope karma pays his ass a visit too. He needs to be suspended.
 
So if Ray Rice had used a switch on his wife he would be cleared to play? Men aren't supposed to lay their hands on women but kids need to be 'disciplined'? Bunch of hypocritical horseshit.
 
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