Nvidia GTX 980/970 3DMark Scores Leaked- from Videocardz.com

There was also someone who compared a 970 firestike result with their slightly overclocked 780 ti.

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/2734193/fs/2252621

970 = 9590 score
780 ti = 10534 score

It kinda looks like an overclocked 970 might be able to reach a stock 780 ti.
So can an OCed 780.

hmm, i don't think I'll be able to jump on at that price. but i'm not settling for the 970.

does anyone know if non reference cards get cheaper or more expensive?
More expensive, since they put custom coolers. I'm wondering how much will the eventual Windforce or DCU2 go for.
 
Hmm... if those prices are legit, I might only be able to afford a 970, which would still be a massive improvement over the 560 Ti 448. Part of me hopes this is just an Nvidia trial balloon, but given how shit the GPU market has been in terns of pricing, I think it's probably legit.
 
felt good that I'm still holding on my GTX 570 for maybe GTX 980. It mean very nice boost upgrade and many new technical features for me.

It is like a real deal of the "looking forward of xmas" feeling rather than upgrade every year that I used to do that before my 570.
 
Christ, if true I can only imagine how bad the Aussie price will be, especially now that our dollar has tanked against the US. I'm guessing $800AUD for the 980. That R9 295X2 at $1199 AUD is looking better and better.

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Well, its *mainly* because progress is actually slowing down.

The consoles have nothing to do with this.

My point had more to do with incentives for them to put out better products. The competition is garbage, there is no consumer grade products which require said power and doing to "push the boundaries" doesn't == maximum profit. They are slowing down by choice as opposed to hitting brick walls; We are no where close to Moore's Law issues with GPUs.
 
Some stuff posted by "Just Somebody" on overclock.net

Really, I'm just adding fuel to the fire, but I find it interesting that he joined those forums today.

Yup, everyone who someone in the technical review / hardware side of things has a gtx 980 / 970 atm or talking to each other in house about it.

From my view point, A single 980 will easily keep you guys gaming in max settings on a single 1080p /2K setup + any DX12 games coming out in late 2015 to Pascal architecture gets here in late 2016 time wise.

Now for you guys who want only the best right now and can't wait to late 2015....
The titan 2 is coming out later just in time for xmas sales, it will be marketed just like the original titan, Aimed at 4K / heavy work station users , classic up-selling if you ask me. Just get 2 or 3 980s for 4k gaming.

I gotta some pm's and so forth asking more about gm 200.

First off , it's 28nm and it's coming before xmas
Don't worry about how powerful a titan 2 is , your better off getting 2 gtx 980's for price of one titan 2.
(just like 2 680's was a far better value then a titan.)


The current state of 20nm having no high-performance node, aka iphone 6 A8 anyone?

You won't see a powerful gpu on it period. anyone who says otherwise is clueless.

They must have FinFET tech for a high-performance node to make great use the current 20nm tech for the level needed for high end graphics performance.

The 16nm you even been told about is not even really 16nm, it's just 20nm dressed in drag "FinFET"
Late 2015 date all i can give you guys..., it's to far for anyone close to gpu tech to say for sure, however the next major maxwell dropping late 2015 a given with node timelines.

This is the gtx 680 all over again. A great GPU and will last for nearly a year on top as best option for the money hands down.

Personally from what i seen, once you own just a 980 your better spending the added cash on g-sync 1080p or 2k setup like new ROG SWIFT PG278Q

As it will be a noticeable and worth ever penny upgrade, sense where all gamer's here , just force on what matter's at hand game play biggrin.gif

This ^

Like in my past posts, am happy to say gtx 980 reference is 450 , GTX 970 reference is 350, non-reference cards for 970 being a little more biggrin.gif

Also no one has non-reference 980 atm. Give that a little more time.

these websites are jumping all over them selves trying to report "real" numbers! Yet everyone who knows the prices are behind NDA, no one gonna publicly commit NDA suicide just yet, Lucky I don't give a damn, long as am just somebody on a forum.
 
Those numbers seem too reasonable for Nvidia. Moreso the 980, I don't remember the enthusiast gpu ever launching at under 500 in recent memory.

I'd be happy to be wrong about it, though.
 
Graphics cards not really making any huge leaps since the, what... 400-500 series (?) is really bugging me.

It is kind of funny (in a sad way) that the only leaps we've had is with the price.. 600 dollars for what essentially should be a GTX870 at best is a no-go for me. This is a crazy-train going nowhere. ..Which means I might have to hold off on Oculus Rift CV1 VR as well (my 660Ti isn't going cut it for 1440p 90Hz).

Edit: Of course, I guess the 600 dollar price is just a rumor..
 
My point had more to do with incentives for them to put out better products. The competition is garbage, there is no consumer grade products which require said power and doing to "push the boundaries" doesn't == maximum profit. They are slowing down by choice as opposed to hitting brick walls; We are no where close to Moore's Law issues with GPUs.
Didn't say they've hit a brick wall. Just that progress is slowing down. They are only delaying the 'best' they've got because they don't want to put it out now and then not have anything better for the next two years, allowing the competition to jump in and then not being able to fight with anything but pricing, which decreases profitability. If they were able to progress faster than this, there'd be no need for this kind of thing.

EDIT: I'll probably buy a 980 at $450. No, its not a great leap in performance from the 780Ti, but I basically see it as "Would I buy a 780Ti that only uses 180w and has more vRAM for $450?"
 
Those numbers seem too reasonable for Nvidia. Moreso the 980, I don't remember the enthusiast gpu ever launching at under 500 in recent memory.

I'd be happy to be wrong about it, though.

It would be nice to see a $450 launch price for the 980, but you are right, that is too reasonable for Nvidia. And their prices have not been reasonable for years.
450 US for the ref 980 would make me very happy.

I'll buy the G-sync + 980 together.

Muhuhahaha

Don't get your hopes up yet. Seriously.
Although it would be nice.....
 
450 for a 980 would be fantastic but as suggested above this is too good to be true.

We will know soon.

Honestly both versions are belivable - it just deepends on what nvidia want to achieve with those cards.

If they want to maximize short term profits then 600$ is likely.
If they want to maximize long term profit then 450$$ is likely - to agresively gain marketshare and userbase for g-sync and lock people in nvidia ecosystem.
 
I sure hope 450 is true, got really disappointed when I saw 599.

As a Swede, I would 2 of them at 450-599, but my guess is that retail-price here will be around 750-800USD.

Probably going to end up getting a 780ti for ~600usd instead. But i seriously need a new gpu, my 580 is almost on fire when I game :D
 
If they want to maximize long term profit then 450$$ is likely - to agresively gain marketshare and userbase for g-sync and lock people in nvidia ecosystem.
That's a really good point. A reasonable pricing model in the early stages of G-sync could pay off in the long run.
 
As a Swede, I would 2 of them at 450-599, but my guess is that retail-price here will be around 750-800USD.

Probably going to end up getting a 780ti for ~600usd instead. But i seriously need a new gpu, my 580 is almost on fire when I game :D

Well yeah, if we convert SEK to dollar it will seem crazy expensive. I'm guessing we get to pay 4900SEK for the reference version and maybe 5400 for Windforce/DCII etc.

If only we could import and not have to pay any taxes and shit, would be soo cheap.
 
I just checked some online retailers here and they have the R9 290 available for €284 and the GTX780 (Zotac AMP edition with 1GHz clock rate) for €349.

What's surprising is that the 780 is only available at one retailer for that price. The others still sell it for €420+. That retailer is the biggest in the country as well, so I'm wondering if they want to clear stock before the 900 series comes in or if they accidentally applied some sort of official price cut too soon.

e: They sell the Gigabyte GTX780 for 369, too. This is really tempting.
 
Well, going by those rumors, two 970s in sli for $800 would be a gigantic improvement over a single $700 780ti, making that a pretty good high end deal. Almost double the performance going by those benchmarks.
 
Speaking of G-Sync, I've got like 3 hours to decide whether to jump on the AOC G2460PG at a $60 discount or so over normal local prices.

It's the cheapest G-sync monitor you can get in Australia. But there's only like one revew, the one I just linked. Really irritating, it's been out a month but that's basically it.
 
Speaking of G-Sync, I've got like 3 hours to decide whether to jump on the AOC G2460PG at a $60 discount or so over normal local prices.

It's the cheapest G-sync monitor you can get in Australia. But there's only like one revew, the one I just linked. Really irritating, it's been out a month but that's basically it.
It looks fine, go for it.
 
We will know soon.

Honestly both versions are belivable - it just deepends on what nvidia want to achieve with those cards.

If they want to maximize short term profits then 600$ is likely.
If they want to maximize long term profit then 450$$ is likely - to agresively gain marketshare and userbase for g-sync and lock people in nvidia ecosystem.

Nvidia will aim for as high as they can get away with just as anyone. 600 is definitely too much I think, I hope AMD will bring it so Nvidia have to price their last offering more sensibly.
 
But still not enough for 4K VR..

No, for that there needs to be a much more significant jump in performance.

Nvidia will aim for as high as they can get away with just as anyone. 600 is definitely too much I think, I hope AMD will bring it so Nvidia have to price their last offering more sensibly.

600 would be too much for me, 500 maybe.
I might get 970 or 780ti even, depending on price/performance.
I am determined on getting Nvidia card this time around. Unless Nvidia "forces" me to go AMD again, because of their expensive pricing.
 
I just checked some online retailers here and they have the R9 290 available for €284 and the GTX780 (Zotac AMP edition with 1GHz clock rate) for €349.

What's surprising is that the 780 is only available at one retailer for that price. The others still sell it for €420+. That retailer is the biggest in the country as well, so I'm wondering if they want to clear stock before the 900 series comes in or if they accidentally applied some sort of official price cut too soon.

e: They sell the Gigabyte GTX780 for 369, too. This is really tempting.

It is and when you sell the Borderlands key you could probably get 20€ back. I usually don't pay more than 200-250 for graphics cards anymore but sooner or later need a replacement for my 660 and if the 970 is priced way above that anyway.... or wait for the 285x. Problem is that I need my cards to be REALLY quiet. On the other hand I could drive to Alternate now, check out how the Zotac fares and bring it back later this week if it's too loud.
 
No, for that there needs to be a much more significant jump in performance.

A 980 should be enough to do 4K VR in several scenarios. But I'm not sure if HDMI 2.0 supports 4K at 90Hz, is 60Hz max? I don't know. Would like to know. Wait! I'm confusing myself, my DK2 isn't connected to the HDMI port anyway, it's DVI.. Well, nevermind then I guess.. LOL
 
I just checked some online retailers here and they have the R9 290 available for €284 and the GTX780 (Zotac AMP edition with 1GHz clock rate) for €349.

What's surprising is that the 780 is only available at one retailer for that price. The others still sell it for €420+. That retailer is the biggest in the country as well, so I'm wondering if they want to clear stock before the 900 series comes in or if they accidentally applied some sort of official price cut too soon.

e: They sell the Gigabyte GTX780 for 369, too. This is really tempting.

That certainly feeds the rumor of the 970 going for ~349€. There have been many similar discounts recently.
 
A 980 should be enough to do 4K VR in several scenarios. But I'm not sure if HDMI 2.0 supports 4K at 90Hz, is 60Hz max? I don't know. Would like to know. Wait, I'm confusing myself, my DK2 isn't connected to the HDMI port anyway..

All I know is you you need HDMI 2.0 if you want to play games at 4K and 60 FPS. Don't about 90Hz, never heard anything about that.
 
Speaking of G-Sync, I've got like 3 hours to decide whether to jump on the AOC G2460PG at a $60 discount or so over normal local prices.

It's the cheapest G-sync monitor you can get in Australia. But there's only like one revew, the one I just linked. Really irritating, it's been out a month but that's basically it.

Check out hardforums or other enthusiast forums for hardware there are plenty who write about monitors and post their experiences with them.
 
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