Used to be pride when cosplayed Stella and had to overanalyse to get each detail. But now it's like sad, I feel like I know too much yet don't want to fall too behind in the news either. And I want all her outfits still.
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Final Fantasy XV TGS 2014 Trailer | Lord Nomura giveth us His only Son so we may live
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Used to be pride when cosplayed Stella and had to overanalyse to get each detail. But now it's like sad, I feel like I know too much yet don't want to fall too behind in the news either. And I want all her outfits still.
That's definitely one of my biggest worries. White Knight Chronicles-style.
That connection was not intentional.
Read my other replies.
You know what I meant by sequels. I'm talking XIII-2, Lightning Returns, X-2, The After Years, etc. It is unnecessary.
Obviously a new Mario game doesn't fall in to this category... like at all.
Nightengale
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If you want to reuse assets for a sequel, just tell a new story within the same universe with some cameos as fanservice.
Don't destroy the outcome of what you built in previous games for no good reason.
XIII sequels made things unnecessarily complex, threw in plot elements that didn't feel like they've been something that was founded within the first game, and... why did they have to ruin their lives further,why?
Don't destroy the outcome of what you built in previous games for no good reason.
XIII sequels made things unnecessarily complex, threw in plot elements that didn't feel like they've been something that was founded within the first game, and... why did they have to ruin their lives further,why?
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NoctisVsStar
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What's your take then on all mgs games with the ambiguous conversation at the end?
13 would have been better remembered by pretty much everyone if that had been the only entree in the 13 series. A game that didn't live up to the hype but had a few good things going for it. instead its tied to a terrible trilogy of games in which the latter two make absolutely no sense and do not connect thematically at all to the original work
You said you don't want reused assets. I'm saying game companies want to reuse assets.
Video game sequels are usually cash-ins, but that doesn't mean they have to be bad. It doesn't mean that it has to be FFXIII-2 or LR.
Like I said, if the story is big enough to warrant more sequels, then by all means.
But like every previous Final Fantasy the story should be contained in to one game. If everyone else could do it with I - XII then surely Nomura and Tabata can do it as well.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
You say you don't want sequel, and then you want a third Chrono. Doesn't it sound conflicting?
Fact is, if the original game is good, sequel that is made with the similar care and effort is fine. AAA games nowadays cost shit ton to make. Sequels are everywhere. You just need to have a good original game to get people at least slightly interested in the sequel.
NoctisVsStar
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Falk pls NDA the time travel ;P
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Not a FF fan, but this is the first one I think I might have to play through. They're doing something right.
Definitely keeping my eyes on this from an interest in playing perspective rather than just a gaming industry curiosity. Looking forward to it :]
Definitely keeping my eyes on this from an interest in playing perspective rather than just a gaming industry curiosity. Looking forward to it :]
Cheshire_Buddha
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They had me at the Garulas.
If XV's main story is contained in to one game (i.e. Noctis gets the girl, saves the world, the end.) and a sequel is just like Noctis' son (I have no idea where I'm going with this..) and his adventures, then that's fine.
I just want XVI faster guys. Come on, is no one with me?
Noctis wakes up once a year to show off a new trailer.
I'm pretty sure it will have to do something with his "death seeing" ability that him and Stella have.
It's a subliminal cry for help. Nomura had insomnia, he couldn't sleep until the game was finished, but he was getting very tired.
I do agree with you in terms of FF, I was speaking on sequals having their place on the larger scale.
Ideally FFXVI has some sort of semblance and planning behinds Square's door. But you know what, they probably have no clue what direction to take FF. BD has taken over as their classic style. They milk mobile with turnbased stuff, and remakes.
Right now FFXIV:ARR is all they have going for them, unless FFXV does good. Then they have to decide to double down on that action/KH like gameplay or maybe create an ATB throwback as FFXVI...
Honestly I think they are waiting to see how XV does before they proceed any further. But I'd rather get XVI than XV-2 as of now.
You trying to tell me to go to bed? Because you would be right in saying so.
NoctisVsStar
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Cool fact I be drinking that's why ignis is the designated driver! I'm Currently holding a cup of Liquor btw ;P
I actually think that would be a cool mechanic as well!
I love dream worlds, so maybe that is where Nomura has/was/is going with it.
At times I feel like Noctis really does channel Nomura ;_;
MagnaderAlpha
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I think a selected few are adamant about ditching all traditional elements altogether. I think most FF fans get a small warm feeling when certain traditional elements are carried over. I mean, the FF theme, itself, always pulls at my heartstrings whenever it's played in any game. Hell, FFXII's intro, for instance. When I heard it, seeing the montage of characters and monsters, then that crystal spinning, what I think back to is the time all those years ago when my little group of Light Warriors crossed the bridge from Coneria to the north and the theme first plays as the credits roll. Such a warm feeling. It's almost like saying, "You've come a long way, baby!".
I'm kinda faithful that well see Yoko's interpretation of the main theme. Sakimoto did it for FFXII, and while Hamauzu didn't do it for FFXIII, he DID arrange it for the FFIV Collection(PSP), and it was pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-0hR105iPk
Exentryk
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Probably not? Coz your abilities won't work. Maybe in a small dream sequence or something? We've seen a cutscene (?) at least with child Noctis is walking up to Regis in the forest.
Perfect Cha0s
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But if I make 13 of me, we can fight 7 of you and fulfill the prophecy, Falk! We need time travel!
The real shame of the XIII trilogy, IMO, is that they actually had some neat gameplay concept refinements that came out very unpolished and rushed feeling. I can understand why they did it, but there are some systems in LR and XIII-2 that were pretty cool and could have really shined had they put some polish into it.
Nightengale
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If XV's main story is contained in to one game (i.e. Noctis gets the girl, saves the world, the end.) and a sequel is just like Noctis' son (I have no idea where I'm going with this..) and his adventures, then that's fine.
I just want XVI faster guys. Come on, is no one with me?
It's a balance thing.
Unless XV is a perfect game in every sense of its design that there are no rooms to improve on the established formula, sure. If there's room for improvement, I'd like to see what can be done further in that world.
Furthermore, I don't want XVI to be a game that has to sell ridiculous numbers to be considered successful. Cash-ins are imo, buffers that exist to safeguard the cost of a new mainline FF.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
While I don't disagree with your point, I think XIII itself is too flawed to be "better remembered" by people, unless you meant in the negative way. In fact, some may argue that the sequels by themselves have more redeeming points than the original, but because they are all ultimately connected in terms of plot/story/characters/setting and their writing is abysmal, it makes for a really bad package. Yet, XIII-2 and LR was IMO inevitable for them to pursue to recoup the massive loss from FFXIV 1.0 debacle.
SporeCrawler
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God i hope this isnt a let down like FFXIII (FYI I loved the battle system)
I really do want a new turn-based (or ATB system) Final Fantasy game...
Bravely Default doesn't count. I want a main series Final Fantasy game.
I would love something like that.
Would be so unique and memorable..but many gamers hate non-combat sections so I can see why they might cut it out.
There is no way that XV won't sell enough copies for Square-Enix not to stay afloat and make a XVI.
XIII sold over 6.5 million and I knew even before the game came out it was going to be terrible, but I actually have hopes for this game and tons of people are really excited about XV even compared to how excited people were about XIII. XIII received very mixed reviews and mixed thoughts even before its release, but it seems that XV is getting universal praise. I think XV could do 8+ million in a similar time frame.
Exentryk
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tumblr is thirsty for XV i know that much
I think they would do very well releasing this game on steam as well
I may not like Nomura's design choices, bu his choice for Yoko Shimomura as the main composer was a wise decision. She's one of the best music composers of all time.
I really hope she does all of the series' staples melodies for XV.
Recall Sora turning into a Heartless and running around in KH?
that and I love roaming twilight town as Roxas(and doing the silly quests).It made the opening of KH2 so striking and the character of Roxas really memorable.
Kid Nocto please ;_;
Then if it really is critically acclaimed, wouldn't you want to make a sequel for a critically acclaimed game? People are gonna eat that up.
FFXV-2 is practically inevitable for better or worse.
Dark_castle
Junior Member
Please read my previous replies! I don't want to repeat myself for a third time.
Well I actually agree with you that XV's story should be self-contained, and according to Nomura, that is exactly how they're going to roll with. The story of Noctis and co will ultimately culminate with the game itself and a potential sequel may tell a different story set in the same universe but of different location, possibly kind of like the Ivalice titles. Maybe.
hopefully not. I usually don't like child part gameplay. If they actually do it hope it's minimal.
I don't even have a PS4 yet unfortunately so I'm really hoping that it comes to PC or that I get a PS4 before the game comes out..
It would probably look better on my PC than a PS4 so I'm all for that! Especially since the game is already multi-platform now.
Scrooge McDuck
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I actually wouldn't mind a planned duology or even trilogy if that's what it takes to maintain scope and plot consistency. Final Fantasy XII was heartbreaking.
Uncharted 3 was really memorable on the other hand.The whole part with Kid Nate and young sully was awesome.