No, not really... there are more interesting shooters because of the shooting part, but if you want to go that road then, sure: Destiny is like every other shooter ever just minus an interesting story, or characters, more repetitive than usual, and with some poorly done RPG elements stitched to it.
Destiny - Review Thread
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No, not really... there are more interesting shooters because of the shooting part, but if you want to go that road then, sure: Destiny is like every other shooter ever just minus an interesting story, or characters, more repetitive than usual, and with some poorly done RPG elements stitched to it.
TrojanBlade
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This so much...last night I finally got time to play Destiny and I felt I was all alone in a barren world. No way to talk to strangers to make friends but I could do those stupid dance moves. At the end my hands were exhausted after killing waves and waves of similar enemies, all alone when it could have been more fun if I had some partners.
Bungie what have you done after promising that Destiny will change social gaming forever. Instead I felt forever alone in the Destiny world
Depends how they define their numbers. For example, quarter to three uses
(5 stars)
I loved it
(4 stars)
I really liked it
(3 stars)
I liked it
(2 stars)
I didn’t like it
(1 star)
I hated it
Which means any game could be given a zero honestly, even a big budget, heavily focus tested game.
Review numbers are arbitrary, despite the number of people who use them when deciding what to buy.
Yeah, I definitely made a mistake buying the game.
But I'm still allowed to complain about the games short comings. So, yeah.
It's a mediocre game with tons of poor decisions tacked on top of it.
No its really not. Not when you take other scores by similar reviewers and compare them. 6/10 makes sense on some neogaf scale since we all complain that review scores are generally far too high but given the current scoring system out there 6/10 is reserved for broken horrible pieces of crap.
The game is going to be savaged in a few months.
I'm surprised we haven't seen any 'leaks' from developers saying how the development for the game was a mess. So many elements of the seem half-assed and thrown together. It's not a cohesive experience at all.
bananafactory
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I don't know what sites you frequent, but most don't consider a 6/10 game to be a broken piece of crap - it's usually awarded to a mediocre and unremarkable game such as Knack - or a good game that is plagued by some serious problems.
Genuine pieces of garbage like 007 Legends and COD Vita are usually called out for what they are, and scored much lower than that.
No it's not. There are plenty of great 6/10 games. It's probably just that you personally haven't liked them (or played them). Maybe this is the first 6/10 game you like but 6/10 is not reserved for "broken horrible" games.
This so much...last night I finally got time to play Destiny and I felt I was all alone in a barren world. No way to talk to strangers to make friends but I could do those stupid dance moves. At the end my hands were exhausted after killing waves and waves of similar enemies, all alone when it could have been more fun if I had some partners.
Bungie what have you done after promising that Destiny will change social gaming forever. Instead I felt forever alone in the Destiny world
I would totally understand this except.....you are on neogaf where hundreds of players over all the platforms have listed their gamertags for groups. When i log on to destiny i get group invites all night. Take the minimal amount of effort and add some gaffers.
List a shooter thats 6/10 and rhat people found good or great.
Hoho for breakfast
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I really really hope Bungie doesn't just drop this game and let it be as it is. Things like the loot issues and the social interactions I'd think could be pretty easily fixed. I really wish Bungie would address some of this. Is it being worked on? Will it be? I still think Destiny 2 could very easily be the new Halo/CoD but they have got to keep working on this one and fix it first.
TemplaerDude
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I just don't get why you make a central hub and then not let people talk to each other. The decisions made in the development of this game seem to completely contrary to what kind of game it is striving to be. I'm honestly baffled, I'm level 6 and I've yet to have much fun with this game at all.
can you link the universal scale where 6 is reserved for broken crap? There are a lot of sites out there that don't know this and I'd like to clue them in.
bananafactory
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I'm level 13 and still not really having fun, so can't really argue that. Hoping it gets better at the 15-20 range. I'm still working through the missions and they're all so boring.
Like i said list a shooter thats 6/10 that many players found good or great. Im waiting. Finding an outlier review that actually uses the full 1-10 doesnt disprove my point that the majority reserves 1-6 for very bad not fun games.
bananafactory
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Eurogamer should change their review of Murdered Soul Suspect then.
If a 6 is crap how can it be likeable?
TrojanBlade
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Of course....but that just tells you the social aspect of Destiny is broken when I have to go outside of the game to do my own 'match making' which is ridiculous.
tfur
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Not sure who should be blamed, but there are definitely a few who should be.
The lack of story is unacceptable, and inexcusable.
Whoever is the manager or director should be blamed. The person(s) at the highest point in the company to make the decisions should be blamed. Are there people at Bungie, who just believe they know best (as in, too much arrogance to realize that the decisions made are poor), or is there some incompetence?
I feel bad for the artist and designers who worked on the environment and art. I also feel bad for the guys who worked on the gun feel and mechanics (even if a little bit excessive auto-aim). The music and sound effects are also very good with my head phones on.
These things are all very solid, and are pulled down by the lack of story, feeling and meaning of the whole production.
Don't get me wrong, I am looking to play more tonight and this weekend. There is much to like, and even with the faults, I like being in the world. I am willing and want to keep going with the pve and coop stuff.
This is one of my biggest pet peeves about the game. Worst thing about playing the beta, and then to find out it just wasn't beta restrictions.
This is garbage.
http://www.joystiq.com/2014/05/20/wolfenstein-the-new-order-review-nein-out-of-ten/
http://www.giantbomb.com/reviews/metro-2033-review/1900-268/
And there are plenty that aren't shooters. But since you narrowed it down to a genre I'm not that familiar with, I can only list the ones I know from recent memory that are quite good but flawed (as Destiny is).
3/5 doesnt equal 6/10 in our current metric. 3/5 = 7/10 find a game thats rated 6/10. Im sure you are going to argue it is but you know deep down that 3/5 is considered good and 6/10 is considered bad. Wolfenstien is a great example of another game being misshandled by the media and was discussed as such on this board. It was marked off for not having mp when it didnt need it. Many said it was judged by some for what it didnt have vs what it was. Very similar to destiny.
Lmao you guys are proving my point for me. 3/5 is not the same score as 6/10 in our current gaming press. They mean different things which is why you had to duck down to using the 5 point scale.
Anton Sugar
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Yup. I have no desire to attempt exploring after I found invisible ceilings/walls that prevented me from doing so.
Poodlestrike
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TemplaerDude
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You just spent an entire post trying to disprove math. Congratulations.
WrenchNinja
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Dude, this spin is pretty terrible.
No. 3.5/5 is 7/10. Keep moving those goalposts though. First it was just about games, then it was just shooters, then 3/5 somehow is 7/10 and not 6/10 because.................
But 3/5 does equal 6/10 because math.
You are seriously reaching
If im reaching why is every example using the 3/5 scale? Because a 6/10 doesnt mean the same thing as a 3/5 score. Otherwise they would be posting 6/10 scores to prove me wrong but they cant. Which again is my whole point. A 6/10 specific score is reserved for crap shooters and wolfenstien while being awesome isnt nearly as complete or huge as destiny. The shooting in both is very fun but thats it. Destiny has far more to do, wolfenstien is a very focused roller coaster ride.
You just picked up the goalposts and carried them straight out of the stadium.
Its a pretty correct review - I agree with most of it but have my own opinions (oh, as I've spammed countless times before - I have a xim4 mouse translator which gives this game a different feel..thankfully. So, for example, the problem with fire rates of weapons isn't that big - and I don't feel the hand cannons have low range. I'm ok with that..but even there, I have to agree about the Autorifle - you can get a random drop that has lower magazine capacity but nearly identical impact and stability of an auto rifle with a much higher fire rate..so...autorifle wins even in my case).
One of the most infuriating things is the loot dropping in pvp - theres a really lame mechanic that will level the drop according to your level. Why? Why can't I win good rares and legendaries like all the level 21-27s? I will eventually get there..hello?!!
I made a character that is ONLY for PVP..and it was an interesting experience - very lame one. Can't earn marks until level 18!!, loot is total garbage, can't get bounties right away.
It would be so much better if the first character you make, ever, will make you do the "tutorials" and then you can just skip all that bullshit.
I hope..i really fantasize..that Destiny is in its INFANCY. Remember EVE Online when it came out? The gameplay and ui changed so much. I hope we are headed that way and this isn't just another throw away, shitty fps.
(oh and thankfully i never got into HALO, so, even now, whenever a knight does a 360 weave away from a grenade toss I simply grin and am very excited)
Am i moving goal posts or are you? I asked for 6/10 specifically and you floundered and side stepped to using 3/5.
Nope. Nope, nope.
Does a 60/100 count? Or only a very precise 6/10? Does it have to be in numbers? Or would 6/10 stars count?
Poodlestrike
Banned
Nope. It's definitely you.
Shooters that received 6/10
Homefront
Dust 514
Crysis at launch
Haze
This is just a quick seach. I mean seriously destiny belongs with those? You guys just dont get it but ill bookmark this for later since the 3/5 vs 6/10 has been discussed here in the past often that its meaninga are totally different. It will come up again.
Homefront
Dust 514
Crysis at launch
Haze
This is just a quick seach. I mean seriously destiny belongs with those? You guys just dont get it but ill bookmark this for later since the 3/5 vs 6/10 has been discussed here in the past often that its meaninga are totally different. It will come up again.
TemplaerDude
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I think he took a wrong click and meant to go to GameSpot system wars.
I replied to a post saying Destiny could easily be a 6/10 game and i said no in our current review metric 6/10 means broken or crap. Not a fun shooter and destiny definitely is fun.
Id ask you the same. Why are posters so desperate to prove a point they would side step my example and bring in the 1-5 scoring metric and say lol math?
You are.
Depending on the person, yes. There exists people who enjoy those games on a similar level to Destiny. Welcome to a world of opinions.
You like a game that some people consider 6/10. This is a new experience for you. That's a totally fine and reasonable thing. Relax and just enjoy the game you enjoy, even if there are people who don't have the same level of fanaticism as you.
TemplaerDude
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HA HA HA HA Oh jeez man, because, I don't know, MATH?
Ingueferroque
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This is a discussion board. Why are you so invested in discussing a game that you apparently do not like, appreciate, or care for? Are you trying to teach me that I'm sinful for enjoying it?
And enjoying Destiny = fanaticism?
I like, appreciate, and care for Destiny. If you have followed you would know. Of course I don't expect that you have (I am but one of many and I'm not particularly notable in any way), but now you know. This poster, however, is being unnecessarily hostile to others who have a different opinion. Enjoying Destiny is not fanaticism. The aggressive attacking of others in the manner which gatti-man has over several threads is.
They aren't side stepping anything, the majority of sites use 1-5 so it's more common to crop up.
There have been a ton of posts detailing issues with the game. It's fine to disagree, but there's certainly enough here to dock it hard and outright dislike the game. It just depends how much those issues grate on people that will determine the end score, and no two people are alike. There is no definitive meaning for a simple 6/10 score, it's always the surrounding text that matters more.
Jack Scofield
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Are you guys really jumping down this guy's throat? He's saying that people perceive 3/5 and 6/10 differently. He's not rewriting the rules of math, he's just saying that most individuals tend to look at 3/5 as more favorable than 6/10.
Jeez.
Jeez.
Ingueferroque
Banned
I see, thanks for clarifying.
He likes destiny tho obviously he is a fool.
Man, watching this now... it just hurts.
The whole idea of developing a fantasy-type universe but with a science fiction backdrop is still a fascinating and wonderful idea. Sure you could say the Phantasy Star series did it, but I'd go even further back and say games like the Myst series did this too, obviously with more emphasis on the fantastical. I love this concept in art form, and I remember watching videos like this when Bungie was developing this and couldn't help but be giddy with excitement and anticipation. This video is an amazing watch for their development of concept art.
What happened though? I'll reiterate my theory that there was some big event/shakedown during development at Bungie that had left them spinning their wheels and not properly pushing development FORWARD. It's becoming clear now the lead developers DIDN'T want a concise story for this universe, arguing that you're playing your own character and not one specific one. In so doing, all the story/universe aspects have been left so vague and detached that the result ended up being a very muddled and rather unengaging narrative. Joe Staten leaving Bungie did NOT do them any favors, and I think we're seeing the sour fruits of that now.
The general "foundation" of game mechanics seem there too in terms of movement, weapon handling and enemy encounters. But how did the mission types end up so repetitive and boss encounters so unimaginative? How does a game billed as a "shared-world shooter" and having "organic" cooperative play end up with such limited ways of interaction and manage to still feel quite lonely?
Was this game not playtested thoroughly? Did folks not sit down with it more for than one to hours at a time? Was the dev team a bit too arrogant and thought everything they touched would be gold? Did Bungie spend so much laboring over its playable environments and skyboxes that it ran out of time to make more fun and varied missions and those more or less became a "we need X number of missions by September" statistic?
Don't even get me started about the firing of Marty O'Donnell. These lingering questions still bug the heck out of me, and I'd just love to know what exactly has been going on at Bungie over the course of the last three years.
opticalmace
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I concur, the granularity of the scale is important for perceptions. I'm sure there's an interesting discussion to be had based on that, though I don't have all that much to contribute.
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