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[Namikaze1]

Alright, Rahool, I'm bringing you ten legendaries. You better not play games with me, boy!

RNGesus, be with me!

 

[Evil Beaver]

6+ hours of crucible apparently

#2Deep4Me

 

[MechDX]

I can't believe I've been playing this game an insane number of hours since it was released and just now realized that you can get extra ascendant materials by upping the difficulty on the daily heroic mission. I've been doing them on the default difficulty most days and wondering why my reward was a big fat nothing.

How do you up the difficulty?

 

[Poodlestrike]

Alright, Rahool, I'm bringing you ten legendaries. You better not play games with me, boy!

RNGesus, be with me!

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[Papercuts]

I think it's worth pointing out that if a player isn't using a guide and trying to maximize how to do everything the best and getting screwed over because of it, the loot system is probably in pretty poor shape.

Like...are people really supposed to know the public event schedule and where to show up? It feels like these are meant to be organic encounters you just come across, not some harsh mechanical schedule to follow up on.

And why do the majority of the vendors use crucible marks? The PvE/P split is pretty heavily leaned in one direction from that and the HORRENDOUS value from doing the strike playlist.

 

[Jest Chillin]

I read the guys and even told people to read your guides. While people were farming venus I was telling others how to join factions and make the most of it.

If you get a weapon, chest, and gauntlet piece - how many marks have you spent? A weapon alone is 150. Chest, legs, and arms are each 65. You're gonna be hurting climbing that mountain for a while unless you raise rep in a faction AND across both the crucible and vanguard vendors. I wouldn't mind it, but again - seeing people get exotics just for showing up makes that grind feel worse than it even is.

All but one of my legendary drops have been useful. Everything else has been either a dupe (as in, armor piece not better than one I already have) or unusable by main class. I could've bought items from Xur, but spending strange coins to replace items I've already spent marks on is redundant and wasteful.

I mean... its just a bad system. Its fixable, but its bad. And you only need to get lucky one time to really get yourself over the level 26 hump. I could absolutely drop the 12 remaining ascendant shards to get my legendary chest piece maxed out - but I shouldn't be essentially forced into that pricey predicament.

Buying the weapon is the mistake as weapons don't add Light and Light is the only form of progression. That's why armor is Rank 2 while Weapons are Rank 3. The game is trying to push you into buying your Armor first as that plays a larger role in completing content.

When you're below the recommended level for the content, your effectiveness against enemies is lower. To help illustrate, here's a video that Datto made after the beta. Pause it right where I've linked and you can see that fighting higher level enemies cuts your damage production by a set percentage. This makes your light level (thus your armor) more important that your your weapon until you reach the appropriate level for the content.

 

[Namikaze1]

Motherfucker!

Choke on them legendary engrams I just gave you, Rahool!

 

[Hawkian]

I read the guys and even told people to read your guides. While people were farming venus I was telling others how to join factions and make the most of it.

If you get a weapon, chest, and gauntlet piece - how many marks have you spent? A weapon alone is 150. Chest, legs, and arms are each 65. You're gonna be hurting climbing that mountain for a while unless you raise rep in a faction AND across both the crucible and vanguard vendors. I wouldn't mind it, but again - seeing people get exotics just for showing up makes that grind feel worse than it even is.

All but one of my legendary drops have been useful. Everything else has been either a dupe (as in, armor piece not better than one I already have) or unusable by main class. I could've bought items from Xur, but spending strange coins to replace items I've already spent marks on is redundant and wasteful.

I mean... its just a bad system. Its fixable, but its bad. And you only need to get lucky one time to really get yourself over the level 26 hump. I could absolutely drop the 12 remaining ascendant shards to get my legendary chest piece maxed out - but I shouldn't be essentially forced into that pricey predicament.

holy fuck first off don't spend marks on weapons. that's a luxury mark expenditure. weapons never have light. I did put this in the guide. :/ you can also get legendary weapons as vanguard rank rewards. For the moment, my primary weapon is a rare and I'm okay with that. My rocket launcher is a bit of another story.

sorry to not keep using the real quote feature

"seeing people get exotics just for showing up makes that grind feel worse than it even is"

Dude welcome to my world in any game with loot rolls. I never get shit. I'm trying to tell you DESTINY IS BETTER at counteracting this issue than most loot games. And by the way, one day, you might get an exotic roll you know. anyone can get lucky. Are you gonna feel like you can't enjoy it because it might be making the grind feel worse for everyone else present.

"All but one of my legendary drops have been useful."

I have had no legendary drops. or exotic drops. zero. I'm going to hit 27 or come ludicrously close tonight, without any rng. I'll prove it.

 

[| Praxis |]

Just won my first exotic Weapon "Hawk Moon". Sadly it's a hand cannon, which I don't use much.

 

[Poodlestrike]

I think it's worth pointing out that if a player isn't using a guide and trying to maximize how to do everything the best and getting screwed over because of it, the loot system is probably in pretty poor shape.

Like...are people really supposed to know the public event schedule and where to show up? It feels like these are meant to be organic encounters you just come across, not some harsh mechanical schedule to follow up on.

And why do the majority of the vendors use crucible marks? The PvE/P split is pretty heavily leaned in one direction from that and the HORRENDOUS value from doing the strike playlist.

This is a good point. Yeah, you can make the end game work... sorta... but it's a pretty rigid system.

 

[Mrgamer]

Anyone up for weekly strike?add v1br4t1ons ps4 eu

 

[Overdoziz]

I love the fusion rifle.

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

This whole game is about buying shit to buy more shit TO BUY MORE SHIT.

The Rich get richer the poor get poorer.
Looking at you Cryptarch.

 

[Evil Beaver]

Motherfucker!

Choke on them legendary engrams I just gave you, Rahool!

Rahool confirmed for "Destiny 3: The Search for More Purple" final raid boss.

 

[Hawkian]

Just won my first exotic Weapon "Hawk Moon". Sadly it's a hand cannon, which I don't use much.

and you people think you have crap to complain about.


GIVE IT TO ME GIVE IT

 

[Kensuke]

Hey, we need two guys for the last raid boss. Any level 27+ stuck on that can come join us. We have gotten close to killing him a few times.

PSN: Wretched_Walrus

 

[XAL]

I love the fusion rifle.

Which FR is that?

 

[nowai]

Just won my first exotic Weapon "Hawk Moon". Sadly it's a hand cannon, which I don't use much.

Much jelly.

 

[Poodlestrike]

Motherfucker!

Choke on them legendary engrams I just gave you, Rahool!

I'm shocked! Shocked to find blues in this establishment!

 

[wsoxfan1214]

King's Watch/Jovian Complex/Seraphim Vault are all pretty cool to explore. Curious to see what Bungie does with them.

 

[Namikaze1]

Oh hey, I just got my third Exotic Bounty request...

I'm not even done with the second one yet. ;__;


P.S. Rot in hell, Rahool!

 

[Danomeon]

The weekly strike got you 3? That'd be 5 probably from pvp theyn I guess. So you were 5 away...

Yeah, that was why I was farming. I was hoping I'd get those last 5 coins from the cave. 5 coins from PvP took me a week or so, so I wasn't counting on that one.

http://destinypublicevents.com/

Sadly, public events are the most likely roll for coins and ascendant materials both that you can do on a regular basis.

I didn't know you could predict public events like that, I'll check this out. Thanks!

1) Did you buy that legendary helmet? ;_; Helms are way more marks than any other armor piece. nooooo. Because you had the helmet you'd also have to have replaced the piece you had already upgraded nooooo argh.

Ugh, you're right! I didn't see that helms are worth more marks. When I made the purchase I was looking for which piece gave me the most light compared to my current gear, and my current helm had the least light. I should have checked the price.

2) So you'd done two upgrades to each legendary. You're right. ONE MORE UPGRADE puts you at 26! ;_; I'm so sorry. So all of the remaining possible upgrades needed shards, eh? Definitely the route you can do soonest. how many are you missing? I can only recommend public events for them.

At the higher levels, content like the Daily Heroic Story gives you a guarantee of most ascendant materials.

I needed 3 more shards, and I couldn't figure out how to get my hands on them. I did that "Defend the Warsat" event at least 6 times throughout the course of the farm and managed to get one extra, but the public events weren't exactly handing them out like candy.

I've been doing the daily heroic story every day, (and all of the bounties) that's where I got my three.

3) How many motes of light did you have? A random roll for the chest piece, one in 3 shot you'd have WAY exceeded 26. Such better than cave farming ;_;

I've got 19 motes of light, which is 4 short for a Xur exotic engram. What are the best ways to get those?

So right now, you're sitting at like, what, how many marks of each vendor?

Right now I've got 140 Vanguard Marks (currently grinding out Vanguard rep daily via bounties) and 4 Crucible marks.

At this point, though, the ship has sailed. I'm doing the raid this coming weekend, (at this point I can just get the crucible marks the second they reset and buy the greaves) but I'm still really bummed that I wasn't able to share the first experience with my friends. Here's to hoping I'll be raid-ready in time for the next tier.

 

[BoxManLocke]

Gotta post this one again, as it's the most fucked up case of random loot I ever came across.

 

[Stoze]

I'd certainly hope so, otherwise they totally screwed the pooch.

...I believe Dax was being sarcastic, it's pretty obvious that you're meant to level up the faction and buy the gear you want. The drops are just there for RNG goodness/badness and to dismantle to upgrade the faction gear you bought.

I think people are too focused on the rush to level up to realize they can just work on buying the gear they want tailored to them and upgrade it. Hell, I'm even guilty of it, spent some shards when I shouldn't have.

When you're gaining reps and marks, you're earning towards gear with stats you know and want. When you're farming, you're gambling. My biggest complaint about this is that the 3 other factions don't take PvE/Vanguard marks. Strikes need a mark giving boost as well.

 

[IAmRandom31]

latest character update

Just need that helm, which I will likely get with 60 more marks, to complete this current suit. Then ill work on the various armor sets.

 

[Strider]

Oh hey, I just got my third Exotic Bounty request...

I'm not even done with the second one yet. ;__;


P.S. Rot in hell, Rahool!

You mentioned you got your 3rd exotic bounty and bitched about RNG in the same post. Something isn't right here lol

 

[zulfate]

i love this game, but like people have said this is basically diablo 3 at launch. the question here is do you think bungie can pull a blizzard (jesus) patch?

also the story really killed me, i love the foundation the whole good vs evil....but yeah you know the rest.

 

[Raxus]

lol damn, 3/3 for legendary from legendary engrams today

I was going to say. I feel like they stealth improved engrams over the past 24 hours.

 

[Overdoziz]

Which FR is that?

Angelic Acid, rare Fusion Rifle. It's nothing too special but the 8 rounds per magazine are really useful for the Fusion Rifle spree bounty.

 

[Xamtheking]

i love this game, but like people have said this is basically diablo 3 at launch. the question here is do you think bungie can pull a blizzard (jesus) patch?

also the story really killed me, i love the foundation the whole good vs evil....but yeah you know the rest.

d3 started off so much worse

 

[dubq]

Anyone for the Weekly Heroic Strike (Summoning Pits)? Looking for a third! Please add me on PSN: wquinn.

 

[Namikaze1]

You mentioned you got your 3rd exotic bounty and bitched about RNG in the same post. Something isn't right here lol

I'm bitching about Rahool! Bastard just won't play fair with me. That exotic bounty though, I don't want to do it. It's the same three choices.

 

[Chamber]

I wonder if Bungie's intention was for players to focus on buying their gear and not relying on the drops.

I'd certainly hope so, otherwise they totally screwed the pooch.

"We want every piece of gear to have an epic story behind it about how the player found it."

Not sure if grinding bounties and shooting at a level 5 cave is all that epic but those are my stories so far.

 

[Nori Chan]

Just finished the raid a second time with my level 25 warlock. I was in the tower with my hunter and they asked me if I could help and I basically coached everybody to do their job and I got a free chatterbox and atheon's epilogue for helping them

 

[cpp_is_king]

i love this game, but like people have said this is basically diablo 3 at launch. the question here is do you think bungie can pull a blizzard (jesus) patch?

also the story really killed me, i love the foundation the whole good vs evil....but yeah you know the rest.

It's diablo 3 at launch without the auction house and yet people still have the best gear there is after 2 weeks.

 

[Spirit3]

Cool sent you a request on psn

if there is still room i'm down for this, level 26 (or was that 27) Titan. PSN: TheVeilrae.

 

[DY_nasty]

holy fuck first off don't spend marks on weapons. that's a luxury mark expenditure. weapons never have light. I did put this in the guide. :/ you can also get legendary weapons as vanguard rank rewards. For the moment, my primary weapon is a rare and I'm okay with that. My rocket launcher is a bit of another story.

sorry to not keep using the real quote feature

"seeing people get exotics just for showing up makes that grind feel worse than it even is"

Dude welcome to my world in any game with loot rolls. I never get shit. I'm trying to tell you DESTINY IS BETTER at counteracting this issue than most loot games. And by the way, one day, you might get an exotic roll you know. anyone can get lucky. Are you gonna feel like you can't enjoy it because it might be making the grind feel worse for everyone else present.

"All but one of my legendary drops have been useful."

I have had no legendary drops. or exotic drops. zero. I'm going to hit 27 or come ludicrously close tonight, without any rng. I'll prove it.

(meh, i never spent on a weapon but 65 65 65 120 for equipment makes the point. i've said it before but destiny could at least do players the favor of allowing them to keep and accumulate marks pre-20)

@bolded, but how?

Like, I'm really trying to think of a big name loot game that does this worse than Destiny - especially one that gates based on loot.

 

[Marcel]

"We want every piece of gear to have an epic story behind it about how the player found it."

Not sure if grinding bounties and shooting at a level 5 cave is all that epic but those are my stories so far.

"I got [gear] by doing shitty in a Rumble but received the reward anyway."

 

[Spy]

Anyone want to do the Raid? Helping a level 25 complete it, but there's 3 level 28's here who have completed it and can help you.

PS4: Neverendin

 

[SnakeEyes]

So how do you get the raid armor?

There's drops at 3 or 4 points in the Raid, outside of the chests, that *CAN* give armour, but it's not guaranteed.

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

"We want every piece of gear to have an epic story behind it about how the player found it."

Not sure if grinding bounties and shooting at a level 5 cave is all that epic but those are my stories so far.

Forgot about that quote. Nothing epic about loot drops whatsoever

 

[zulfate]

d3 started off so much worse

to me its about even, on one hand d3 had a beginning, middle, and an end to the story(still sorta garbage though). it also trading, auction house, and 4 player party but i love destiny's base gameplay.

the problem with this game is that it decided to copy a plethora of online rpgs systems but without any of the improvements that has come from years of exposure to them.

 

[Xamtheking]

(meh, i never spent on a weapon but 65 65 65 120 for equipment makes the point. i've said it before but destiny could at least do players the favor of allowing them to keep and accumulate marks pre-20)

@bolded, but how?

Like, I'm really trying to think of a big name loot game that does this worse than Destiny - especially one that gates based on loot.

Because most loot games don't have ANY way to get best-tier items without RNG
Best example is Vanilla Borderlands 2

 

[Admiral Woofington]

might cave in and buy one of the shirts in Bungie.net

 

[Namikaze1]

At this point, I feel like buying legendary gear just so that I can dismantle them for shards.

Hmm. Fuck it. I need them shards.

 

[Loam]

Anyone want to do the Raid? Helping a level 25 complete it, but there's 3 level 28's here who have completed it and can help you.

PS4: Neverendin

Sure. Added.

 

[Zephyl]

Got a legendary Hand Cannon!! It's called Venation III

 

[Poodlestrike]

"We want every piece of gear to have an epic story behind it about how the player found it."

Not sure if grinding bounties and shooting at a level 5 cave is all that epic but those are my stories so far.

Lol, yeah. I'm just thinking that if they meant to do it this way, it'd be a poor design decision, but if they wanted it to be any other way, they're just incompetent

 

[Hawkian]

At this point, though, the ship has sailed. I'm doing the raid this coming weekend, (at this point I can just get the crucible marks the second they reset and buy the greaves) but I'm still really bummed that I wasn't able to share the first experience with my friends. Here's to hoping I'll be raid-ready in time for the next tier.

You know what the shittiest part is to me?

You should have just gone in with your friends :'( I get that you feel like you'd have been stomped and I'm sure you would've had a hell of a time, but it wasn't worth not GOING. And if it was them saying you couldn't enter with them I think that's kind of crappy too. Like, stick with your bros. I don't know. You could have found a legendary inside in the first 30 minutes. Argh. I don't man. More than anything I feel bad for you. some sliightly different choices or approaches to last-minute farming would have gotten you there, and you could've gone in without getting there anyway. *sigh* glad you're not giving up that easily at least!

 

[Danomeon]

might cave in and buy one of the shirts in Bungie.net

The tower shirt is so darn cool. Kind of weirdly dark and morbid, but awesome nonetheless.

http://bungiestore.com/collections/featured/products/the-tower-t-shirt-men