Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)

how are the new i7 5-number goes hereK cpus for gaming? i know next to nothing about cpus so i'm kinda struggling for what i need to get for my new build. i know it's probably not worth going for the xeon though, but that's about it.

honestly anything would be an improvement over my phenom II 945 but i'm looking to future-proof to the best of my ability.
 
how are the new i7 5-number goes hereK cpus for gaming? i know next to nothing about cpus so i'm kinda struggling for what i need to get for my new build. i know it's probably not worth going for the xeon though, but that's about it.

honestly anything would be an improvement over my phenom II 945 but i'm looking to future-proof to the best of my ability.

That's a question more suited for this thread.
 
The cards start throttling at 80 degrees so most people will back off their OC when they see it reaching 80.

Well that's why I said 80. People are saying their card is staying under 70C, so I'm wondering if they've overclocked and if so, has their card still stayed close to that temperature. If so, can they increase voltages to get more overclocking headroom until it starts getting into the 80's. If they've maxed out the voltage allowed by the BIOS or whatever, maybe a voltage mod (or a Lightning card for example) could get even more overclocking out of it.
 
With both the Xbone and PS4 sporting 8 cores I guess it makes sense to upgrade the 2500k to something with more threads then? What's the best processor I can find for my 1155?

They are actually sporting only 6 cores. 2 cores are reserved for OS and it probably take a while some their resources will be enabled for gaming application.
Oh and 2500k is faster than them almost by factor of two.
 
They are actually sporting only 6 cores. 2 cores are reserved for OS and it probably take a while some their resources will be enabled for gaming application.
Oh and 2500k is faster than them almost by factor of two.

It better be since it is more than 2x expensive than jaguar.
 
I take back what i said yesterday about the GTX 980 having a "Titan" style cooler. They went with a cheaper heatpipe based designed instead of the vapor-chamber.
 
Which brand is this referring to? I bought the EVGA 980 SC - should be here today.

The reference design, so i believe all the ones currently being sold.

It's not a huge deal, Maxwell has a much lower TDP so it makes sense the cooler is a little less effective.
 
Sorry noob question here, do nvidia update their cards annually? Thinking about getting a computer end of next year (though I'm not sure how long I can hold on for... Steam and 120fps is calling). I should wait for the 20nm cards right?

Also I want to get 120fps on high settings on racing games like assetto corsa and project cars. Will the 970 be ok? Are there ti or Titan versions of the cards coming out? And if so have the previous ti or Titan versions been worth it?
 
Sorry noob question here, do nvidia update their cards annually? Thinking about getting a computer end of next year (though I'm not sure how long I can hold on for... Steam and 120fps is calling). I should wait for the 20nm cards right?

Yeah, wait. There will be new cards next year from both companies.
 
What did you upgrade from?

Well... I had 2x 680s in SLI. But one of them seemingly bit the dust, so I grabbed a pair of 780s. Thankfully it was within 90 days of the 980 launch so I qualify for the step-up program. It's a slow process so I bought one and will be trading up for the other. I'm going to keep one of the 780s to put in another PC.

The 980 seems to be more powerful than my 680s in SLI. At least in some games. But I've overclocked the 980 and it was overclocked to begin with.

Hard to say about he 780s. I didn't have them for a long time. I played a few games that had no SLI support (Darksiders 2, Dead Rising 3) and the 980 performs better in both of those games.
 
One thing I have to say, is massive thanks to my wife who is taking tomorrow afternoon off to be home to sign for my new graphics cards when they arrive, since I was unable to get the time off myself.

I am one very lucky guy.
 
Cool.

Are we talking six months usually or annual updates on their graphics cards?

Based on wiki this is how it went with Kepler:

GK104

680: March 2012
670: May 2012
690: April 2012
660/Ti: August-Sept

refresh

770: May 2013
760: Jun 2013

GK110

Titan: Feb 2013
780: May 2013
780Ti: Nov 2013
 
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My rig with SLI GTX970 Strix.

I'm currently installing and testing Skyrim with mods. It's amazing :D
 
Out for Delivery finally after a day of just sitting in the fedex facility. Pretty frustrating for the fastest service Newegg offered. Oh well, I'm excited.
 
I cannot make up mind on the 970 or 980. I like turning graphics options up as much as possible and my monitor is 1080p/144hz. Would I be better off going with a 980?
 
Awwwyiiiss motherfucking new hardware.

For anyone in Germany looking for an MSI 970 give Alternate.de a call, I just got an email that I can go and grab mine.
 
I got my MSI 970 today and I'm super happy so far, even though it wasn't a huge leap forward compared to my previous 770.

I see a lot of people are still on a 2500k like me, and for those of you wondering how it does in Fire Strike I'll post my results below.

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Even the achievments knows it's time for me to upgrade my CPU. Currently it's running at 4,2GHz and the 970 at 1440MHz.
 
how are the new i7 5-number goes hereK cpus for gaming? i know next to nothing about cpus so i'm kinda struggling for what i need to get for my new build. i know it's probably not worth going for the xeon though, but that's about it.

honestly anything would be an improvement over my phenom II 945 but i'm looking to future-proof to the best of my ability.
They're not any better in games than the Core i7 4790K. In most instances, worse, due to a probable lower clock speed.
It better be since it is more than 2x expensive than jaguar.
The only Jaguar chips that are buyable are the Kabini SOC APUs that are geared towards laptops or super tiny enclosures. The 8350 and the like are not related to Jaguar.
 
Just ordered an EVGA GTX 980 SC! Im not sure if I'm mad upgrading from a 780SC card or not but just have the upgrade itch.
 
Has anyone overclocked one of these cards far enough to reach something like 80C under full load? Or is the voltage capped too low?

My EVGA superclock does. I believe the SC version is something like 9.8% OC compare to the reference number. The EVGA precision has it set to 80C limit and it reached up to 81.
 
Just ordered an EVGA GTX 980 SC! Im not sure if I'm mad upgrading from a 780SC card or not but just have the upgrade itch.

You're definitely not alone. I personally feel the upgrade itch once or twice a year.

That card is awesome, by the way. I've got the same one. Congratulations! :-)
 
I found an article pointing out a possible flaw in the cooling solution on the EVGA GTX970.

"Obviously, not all of the new cards hitting the market are created equally and early suggestions are saying the new EVGA GTX 970 ACX cooler isn’t being used to its full potential.

The images of the new card and its cooler suggest that they’ve used the cooler from a bigger card to save on manufacturing costs; the problem here being that one of the three heat-pipes barely makes any contact with the GPU. Rival cards are out pacing the EVGA card in the cooling department and it’s likely that the card could be performing better in benchmarks if the cooler was used to its full potential.


As you can see in the picture below the chip is barely touching the first heat pipe, although it may not be touching at all as most of the thermal paste on the pipe looks like excess from around the edge of the chip. The 2nd (middle) heat pipe is fine and so is the 3rd on the right; but you can clearly see that the chip is overhanging the heat-pipes by several millimetres on the right. It definitely appears that the chip and the pipes are poorly aligned."


http://www.eteknix.com/evga-gtx-970-feature-manufacturing-defect/

and EVGA responded

"The way the EVGA GTX 970 ACX heat sink was designed is based on the GTX 970 wattage plus an additional 40% cooling headroom on top of it. There are 3 heat pipes on the heatsink – 2 x 8mm major heat pipes to distribute the majority of the heat from the GPU to the heatsink, and a 3rd 6mm heatpipe is used as a supplement to the design to reduce another 2-3 degrees Celsius. Also we would like to mention that the cooler passed NVIDIA Greenlight specifications.

Due to the GPU small die size, we intended for the GPU to contact two major heat pipes with direct touch to make the best heat dissipation without any other material in between.

We all know the Maxwell GPU is an extremely power efficient GPU, our SC cooler was overbuilt for it and allowed us to provide cards with boost clocks at over 1300MHz. EVGA also has an “FTW” version for those users who want even higher clocks.

Regarding fan noise, we understand that some have expressed concerns over the fan noise on the EVGA GTX 970 cards, this is not a fan noise issue but it is more of an aggressive fan curve set by the default BIOS. The fan curve can be easily adjusted in EVGA PrecisionX or any other overclocking software. Regardless, we have heard the concerns and will provide a BIOS update to reduce the fan noise during idle."


http://www.eteknix.com/evga-respond-possible-design-flaw-gtx-970-acx/

In the end it might not be a big deal, but perhaps something potential customers would be interested in.
 
I found an article pointing out a possible flaw in the cooling solution on the EVGA GTX970.

"Obviously, not all of the new cards hitting the market are created equally and early suggestions are saying the new EVGA GTX 970 ACX cooler isn’t being used to its full potential.


The images of the new card and its cooler suggest that they’ve used the cooler from a bigger card to save on manufacturing costs; the problem here being that one of the three heat-pipes barely makes any contact with the GPU. Rival cards are out pacing the EVGA card in the cooling department and it’s likely that the card could be performing better in benchmarks if the cooler was used to its full potential.

As you can see in the picture below the chip is barely touching the first heat pipe, although it may not be touching at all as most of the thermal paste on the pipe looks like excess from around the edge of the chip. The 2nd (middle) heat pipe is fine and so is the 3rd on the right; but you can clearly see that the chip is overhanging the heat-pipes by several millimetres on the right. It definitely appears that the chip and the pipes are poorly aligned."

http://www.eteknix.com/evga-gtx-970-feature-manufacturing-defect/

and EVGA responded

"The way the EVGA GTX 970 ACX heat sink was designed is based on the GTX 970 wattage plus an additional 40% cooling headroom on top of it. There are 3 heat pipes on the heatsink – 2 x 8mm major heat pipes to distribute the majority of the heat from the GPU to the heatsink, and a 3rd 6mm heatpipe is used as a supplement to the design to reduce another 2-3 degrees Celsius. Also we would like to mention that the cooler passed NVIDIA Greenlight specifications.

Due to the GPU small die size, we intended for the GPU to contact two major heat pipes with direct touch to make the best heat dissipation without any other material in between.

We all know the Maxwell GPU is an extremely power efficient GPU, our SC cooler was overbuilt for it and allowed us to provide cards with boost clocks at over 1300MHz. EVGA also has an “FTW” version for those users who want even higher clocks.

Regarding fan noise, we understand that some have expressed concerns over the fan noise on the EVGA GTX 970 cards, this is not a fan noise issue but it is more of an aggressive fan curve set by the default BIOS. The fan curve can be easily adjusted in EVGA PrecisionX or any other overclocking software. Regardless, we have heard the concerns and will provide a BIOS update to reduce the fan noise during idle."

http://www.eteknix.com/evga-respond-possible-design-flaw-gtx-970-acx/

In the end it might not be a big deal, but perhaps something potential customers would be interested in.

A shame certainly, they're pulling what some companies did with the 290s, but EVGA are Nvidia's Sapphire; it's odd to see them with a sub-par, non-tailored cooling solution.

I always thought EVGA coolers were too ugly to even consider to be honest, so I don't care much. As long as Gigabyte are good, I'm fine.
 
That seems a bit high... Everything ok with your case? Are you in a tropical summer?

I'm in SoCal. I might have misspoken about the evga precision. I believe it was set to target 80 degree so the card OC up to that temp. At idle it's in the low 30's.
 
A shame certainly, they're pulling what some companies did with the 290s, but EVGA are Nvidia's Sapphire; it's odd to see them with a sub-par, non-tailored cooling solution.

I always thought EVGA coolers were too ugly to even consider to be honest, so I don't care much. As long as Gigabyte are good, I'm fine.
It's not at all like what they were doing with 290s.

The 290 issue was that they were using coolers designed for cards with TDP much lower. In this case, they're using coolers designed for cards with much higher TDP.

What they're saying is that directly contacting two of the heatpipes provides more than enough dissipation for the paltry 170W on the 970, which is totally accurate.
 
I got my MSI 970 today and I'm super happy so far, even though it wasn't a huge leap forward compared to my previous 770.

I see a lot of people are still on a 2500k like me, and for those of you wondering how it does in Fire Strike I'll post my results below.

xUg1AUs.png


Even the achievments knows it's time for me to upgrade my CPU. Currently it's running at 4,2GHz and the 970 at 1440MHz.

Wow. Thanks for posting that. I'm still on a 2500k myself and going from a 660ti to 970. That's a real good score. I'm feeling very good about the impending purchase.

Now to get an MSI or Gigabyte back in stock.....
 
Pal just finished his benchmark runs with his 980s

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For comparison, this is my run on the 780Ti Classified Kingpin

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The 6 core proc definitely inflates his score a bit, but still. Damn.
 
NCIX says the Strix 970/980 will be in by early next week. Haven't seen any other Canadian retailer with them, so I'll keep my preorder for now. Hope the price doesn't magically go up.
 
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