Blue Ninja
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Goddamn. Treasure Cave sealed I can live with, but no more ascendant materials for breaking down fucking queen gear? What's the point in doing those missions then. :lol
Destiny |OT5| New patch out Tues., Master Rahool reportedly crying into his robes
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With how many points a team can get from kills vs holding points I am not surprised every control match devolves into team deathmatch. Might as well just call control Clash 2.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Nope, I usually save mine for when I'm about to attempt something risky.
In pve it could be like trying to revive a team mate while he's swarmed by wizards and in pvp it would be something like trying to rush a control point with 3 dudes at it solo.
I have a question how are you supposed to do these queen bounties to kill sepiks prime and devil archon? Patrol mode or is it on a mission?
Can't ditch my FT bros. We sometimes do well.
Bungie changed it for a reason.
But yes you have a point for higher level people. I thought you could get new legendary weapons from those Kill Missions though? Granted its just another flavor but some people may enjoy them over the other legendary weapons they already had?
BenjaminBirdie
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This is just my point. They don't want people to play all day. They don't want you to feel like you have to rush to 29 or there's no point.
I'm at 27 and there's no end to activities I can do and, it's quite obvious now, the game is built to slowly reward those activities, not prompt me to race to 28.
They did not design this game to have an army of 29s standing on a ridge after three weeks of play. I think that's clear now.
I'm upset over Bungie's decisions and how they reflect the lack of a clear scope, but everything patched so far makes sense.
I really wonder what the first expansion will have.
Nope. Save your Super. If you die and you have a full meter, you'll get a message saying you can hit R1+L1 to use it.
I really wonder what the first expansion will have.
Nope. Save your Super. If you die and you have a full meter, you'll get a message saying you can hit R1+L1 to use it.
Fixed1979
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I can play just tonight
I'm only a lowly 26 Titan, but was hoping to find a group for tonight...
Union Carbine
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Yeah, I have a similar thought and I do think that many (most?) more casual players than the average Gaffer will do that-- pick out the bounties, etc. that appeal most to them and do those and not feel compelled to clear every single task every single day.
bananafactory
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So wait - loot cave is patched but they haven't upped rewards for the missions?
Both of them need to be nerfed. The blast radius is ridiculous.
improvise5
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So has anyone dismantled any Queen's gear after this hot fix? Curious what you actually get now with no shard reward.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
That's the thing though. There are plenty of other locations to shoot fish in a barrel that they DIDN'T nerf-The Vex vs. Fallen locations in Venus comes to mind(They both get dropped off by the cloud/fallen ships, not a cave). Mars has a Vex vs. Cabal location, areas where Cabal get dropped off by ships...those spots aren't affected yet. Plenty of locations, just a matter of time.
I assume it's going to be a blanket opt in/opt out through options. Not a 'You have joined a PvP match! Would you like to turn off voice chat?'
...I don't think there's a game that does that, not on consoles atleast.
Yep I agree with that too.
Same for Xur. Everyone gonna have the same exotics. He should have unique exclusive stuff. I have a Monte Carlo, soon everyone will because Xur. It's not a matter of wanting to be better than others there should just be some uniqueness. Give something the same stats with a different model and name, whatever that would be fine.
backflip10019
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This is honestly the major issue. Loot doesn't drop nearly as often during regular gameplay as I would like, especially considering my limited amount of time to play the game. With the way it is now, I'm going to be mindlessly churning through the same content for hours upon hours until I finally get enough marks to buy legendaries.
I agree. At least they drop with different modifiers so it's not completely terrible. But yea more loot and more interesting loot, specifically legendaries, is needed.
AmateurHour212
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I think his point was, "Don't complain about them killing the loot cave, that is a positive for the game overall. Complain that they haven't fixed the loot system."
And let's be perfectly clear here, eliminating that cave is good for the game. Period, end of story. That's not up for debate. What is up for debate and is subject to the ire of those on here is the lack of a hotfix to the engram system (including the Queen's missions).
Jinjo
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So Queen event story missions are useless now with their legendaries not giving materials. Loot cave nerfed is not a dealbreaker, but the fact that they are not going to change the lootsystem is. Good job on listening to fan feedback Bungie. "Better portraying" how the loot system works is already too late, we know how it works, we're telling you it sucks.
Xamtheking
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Actually though
The one good thing about the cave fix I think
Is that Bungie seems to have an understanding of how the loot system is bad and might actually be thinking about changing it now
The one good thing about the cave fix I think
Is that Bungie seems to have an understanding of how the loot system is bad and might actually be thinking about changing it now
lol
MagicWithEarvin
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Anyone up for the weekly nightfall on PS4? Need 2.
Bring solar weapons and let's cheese the last boss at the ledge.
Bring solar weapons and let's cheese the last boss at the ledge.
I guess ARs need tweaks because I've never used pulse rifles or scouts in Crucible... Not even once. Was having too much fun with my ARs. Will have to start learning other guns soon
Victory Red
Member
Yup. Looking forward to the buff they gonna give it. 6 more bullets in the clip would be nice and a hair more impact. GOAT gun
The Cryptarch statement in the developer notes is so vague and self-apologetic that I'm also not sure what to do with engrams now.
Seriously new official topic
I still don't get the problem. People that are just playing the game don't seem to be complaining, but the ones that are trying to exploit things like the cave, or the moon mission are complaining to no end.
I never farmed anything (save for fusion rifle kills at first when I was getting use to the rifle, the last one I did in one run of the night fall). I just play the game, and I have 4 exotic weapons, Two exotic armors, full purple armor including backups for switching between PVP and PVE builds, as well as purple weapons in most elements for most weapon types.
Play the damn game and the loot will come. I told this to one dude that was bitching and I made him play with me two or three times. Doing the night falls, weeklys, and daily's as well as a few bounties and he went up three levels, picked up a hand full of purples and an exotic auto rifle.
Play hard and challenge yourself. that is where the rewards are.
Seriously, what's the point of the Queen's Kill Orders now?
Those missions are freaking hard for anyone under lvl 25, but if you're level 25 you probably already have Legendary Gear equipped. Removing the possibility to get Shards from dismantling the mission rewards makes the missions entirely pointless.
Those missions are freaking hard for anyone under lvl 25, but if you're level 25 you probably already have Legendary Gear equipped. Removing the possibility to get Shards from dismantling the mission rewards makes the missions entirely pointless.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Suggestion! They should have set it up so that by completing a Queen's Wrath mission, you get a Queen's Reward Token or something...Then you can use that token to claim any of the Queen's Wrath event items. That way, people like me can get the Sniper that I wouldn't mind having, and also it prevents me from getting 5+ helmets I have zero use for (since I can't dismantle them now because fuck you).
Damn I'm angry about this, haha.
Damn I'm angry about this, haha.
I didn't understand it as tweaking the actual Cryptarch rewards, but rather making it more clear that a purple engram doesn't always mean a purple item, etc. That would be nice though, and it might be worth saving them.
"But we didn't adequately communicate the potential random outcomes of decryption. Players see what looks like the familiar metaphor of item identification, while the Cryptarch thinks he's opening a grab bag of loot. Rage sharding of blues ensues. Expect to see changes to address this soon..."
Sepiks prime is in the Earth strike, Archon is in Restoration.
I'm actually okay with the fist of derp blast radius - i just don't understand why its an instant kill when you're 30 feet above it....
but you're not literally just standing there firing into a cave there. they still have a fast spawn rate, same chance to drop loot, only slightly more involved
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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i did it by missions
Ah, I wasn't considering it a per session thing. More like a toggle in the menu somewhere that is effectively "mute everyone in matchmaking?" that lasts forever. So you'd only ever have to hit it once either way. From that perspective I'd much rather it started with voice chat on for Matchmaking, just so there's a reasonable chance of RandomHunter200 in a Strike hearing me when I say not to revive me because I have 3 seconds left and there's 36 Knights on my corpse even if he or she isn't talking.
It's nice for bounties and stuff, but it's pretty trash on a boss.
Agreed, they are a chore and while I hate leaving a team at a disadvantage, I'm sick of those maps.
The location doesn't really matter. You're farming and exploiting the shitastic loot system either way.
Sepiks Prime cast a great shadow over our city...
ElRenoRaven
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I do agree. The missions were cool but they're time consuming. Then once you get the gear there is no reason to do them other then the rep and yea that's not really worth the trouble. Course I hate how rare shards and energy are anyway. But that's just me.
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