Victory Red
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Has to be across the board.
You can't have a gun firing differently in PvP. They will probably nerf stability/range and make it across the entire game.
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Has to be across the board.
You can't have a gun firing differently in PvP. They will probably nerf stability/range and make it across the entire game.
I had forgotten that raid gear has a max of 30 light so you don't need an exotic piece to reach 30, which was why I said it was risky because I had previously thought you had to have an exotic piece of armor to reach 30 and I had forgotten that it isn't the case.
Jinjo
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Replying to this again with pictures. It definitely does increase the damage.
Here's a pic of me getting headshots with it before the upgrade. 34 damage.
And here's a screengrab from a youtube video with someone who does have the upgrade. 43 damage.
Exactly. I tested it vs a normal AR with same stats aside from range. In close to medium situations the damage is 45 points for the Suros conpared to 34 for the Galahad-E.
I prefer faster FR. I'm gonna switch back to Galahad tonight and see if I do better.
Orthogonal
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I was just shooting from the hip with my suggestions. Bottom line is that the game needs to do a better job of getting players familiarized and invested in faction reputation well before the end game so players naturally gravitate to it when regular XP leveling ends.
How do we know what stat "increased damage" actually increases? Isn't Damage a function of Impact and Attack? If that Suros evolution increases Impact then it is making a difference in normal Crucible.
I guess we just need to have someone run tests and find out exactly what it is increasing, unless we already know.
Haha yup, I was there just now and there was a group of 4 guys shooting at it. They disbanded pretty quickly though
I haven't post in these Destiny threads but I thought I would share my experience playing with a family member just for curiosity sake and to say hi to my good GAFfers.
He's a very casual player and Destiny is just the right game for him. He's not very good at FPS so the online portion is the worst part for him, yet, every now and then he does one or two matches to see "If I get lucky with an item". Married and with a kid, many times he ended booting up Destiny just to do a bounty, do some patrol missions or grab some materials. He's not rushing and he loves checking the new fancy weapons others manage to get while he's in the Tower.
He does not like that Cryptarch guy, hehe. The game is now played by him on a daily basis or simply when possible. When he turn on his console, he always request or make an invite to the Party Chat, ask what I'm doing and then we tag along. By not being a great FPS player I try to help and do other harder missions/strikes with him. It's all about the fun in the end and family fun is great. He can't wait for new ships, more good looking items to wear and new story missions, content, etc. I just think it's great to see people having fun no matter the age. I've seen plenty of rage and hate towards the game (regarding the loot and grind) and I can respect that but in the end, it's an hobby and it's supposed to be fun. I've seen many people playing for items, farming for hours so it's normal for them to feel the need to rest, take a step back and either play a different game or do something else. Moderation is key and when playing in short bursts the experience can be much rewarding.
I just hope that, one way or another for all those who bought the game find a way to keep having fun. Because that is the most crucial part when playing and I couldn't have the passion of this fine hobby if I wasn't having fun and it felt like playing is now a chore to level up or increase some sort of stats.
He's a very casual player and Destiny is just the right game for him. He's not very good at FPS so the online portion is the worst part for him, yet, every now and then he does one or two matches to see "If I get lucky with an item". Married and with a kid, many times he ended booting up Destiny just to do a bounty, do some patrol missions or grab some materials. He's not rushing and he loves checking the new fancy weapons others manage to get while he's in the Tower.
He does not like that Cryptarch guy, hehe. The game is now played by him on a daily basis or simply when possible. When he turn on his console, he always request or make an invite to the Party Chat, ask what I'm doing and then we tag along. By not being a great FPS player I try to help and do other harder missions/strikes with him. It's all about the fun in the end and family fun is great. He can't wait for new ships, more good looking items to wear and new story missions, content, etc. I just think it's great to see people having fun no matter the age. I've seen plenty of rage and hate towards the game (regarding the loot and grind) and I can respect that but in the end, it's an hobby and it's supposed to be fun. I've seen many people playing for items, farming for hours so it's normal for them to feel the need to rest, take a step back and either play a different game or do something else. Moderation is key and when playing in short bursts the experience can be much rewarding.
I just hope that, one way or another for all those who bought the game find a way to keep having fun. Because that is the most crucial part when playing and I couldn't have the passion of this fine hobby if I wasn't having fun and it felt like playing is now a chore to level up or increase some sort of stats.
Victory Red
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They give exotics out like candy. There is nothing exotic about them.
That didnt really answer my question, but if they weaken the power for PvE then Im gonna have to start saving up marks for Devil You Know. Right now I switch up between Shingen and Galahad, but if Bungie is gonna shwheel the power of AR's, then I gotta head back to Handcannon Town.
Edit: Thanks Victory Red, Lik and purg!
oh really? good to know
StrongBlackVine
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Level 28 weekly strike guarantees 9 strange coins. Nightfall rewards are random...
Oof, 28. Wish I could do those.
For people who still need some legendaries or want some weapons/ships.
Apart from this,yes, they are not really worth it anymore.
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Deleted member 752119
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Seems it's just meant for those of us lagging behind our friends that play more. I'm level 25 but only have legendary boots and chest, so I need to knock out some to try and get helm and gauntlets.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
It rewarded me with 12 shards. Nothing is guaranteed.
WE'VE WOKEN THE HIVE
i'm not going to like, Dinklebot saying that over and over and the role this door plays as an occasional stop on my journeys has memetically become something I really like about this game XD it's just so silly, the thralls never learn.
WE'VE WOKEN THE HIVE
That's what I'm saying hand cannon is very strong at distance in PVE so why the need to nerf AR in PVE. I got Devil You Know last night. Guess I'll hold on to it.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Bounties. Equip the gun(s) you want to level up right before you turn them in.
(3 from 22, 3 from 24 and 3 from 28) for a total of 9.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Yeah, if you are playing other characters, it's not the worst thing in the world. But if you are only playing one (like myself), I will choose to not gamble right now. Figure I'll wait.
Also, my gun shop was selling rare fusion rifles yesterday. But 10 (all I had enough for) in hopes that I get that Exotic Bounty where I need to dismantle 15 rare fusion rifles, haha.
Wait, so the auto rifle nerf went into effect with yesterday's patch? I thought the nerf would come down the line.
Also, yesterday, I was looking for relic iron on Mars and came into a realization. Maybe it was because I was uploading a video on youtube and using up bandwidth, but I was alone on Mars and felt it. Here I was doing what most would consider a meaningless task with a carrot dangling in front of my face in hopes of upgrading my exotic Sunbreakers. I've done similar tasks in MMOs, such as getting leather in WoW or getting dna samples in The Old Republic, but neither of those games made me feel as alone as I did yesterday playing Destiny save for one time: when TOR was shutting down old servers. I had to log into a Sith Juggernaut to make sure it was transferred for free. I ran around huge zones that used to be populated with people milling around with a chat channel that only had one person - me, Darth Rezren.
While that experience in TOR was surreal and temporary, I played Destiny last night for less than an hour and the pang of lonliness was strong. I raid and do heroic weeklies with folks from GAF. I guess I had been doing heroic dailies with folks too, because I had no motivation to do mine alone regardless of how badly I need Ascendant materials. I'm level 28 edging to level 29 to tackle the heroic VoG, and I think that's my only motivation in the game at the moment.
I know this game isn't a MMO, but it borrows a lot of traits from them while avoiding some of the essential parts. I can't believe I was on Mars and wishing I could have a general chat filled with trolls and scammers.
Also, yesterday, I was looking for relic iron on Mars and came into a realization. Maybe it was because I was uploading a video on youtube and using up bandwidth, but I was alone on Mars and felt it. Here I was doing what most would consider a meaningless task with a carrot dangling in front of my face in hopes of upgrading my exotic Sunbreakers. I've done similar tasks in MMOs, such as getting leather in WoW or getting dna samples in The Old Republic, but neither of those games made me feel as alone as I did yesterday playing Destiny save for one time: when TOR was shutting down old servers. I had to log into a Sith Juggernaut to make sure it was transferred for free. I ran around huge zones that used to be populated with people milling around with a chat channel that only had one person - me, Darth Rezren.
While that experience in TOR was surreal and temporary, I played Destiny last night for less than an hour and the pang of lonliness was strong. I raid and do heroic weeklies with folks from GAF. I guess I had been doing heroic dailies with folks too, because I had no motivation to do mine alone regardless of how badly I need Ascendant materials. I'm level 28 edging to level 29 to tackle the heroic VoG, and I think that's my only motivation in the game at the moment.
I know this game isn't a MMO, but it borrows a lot of traits from them while avoiding some of the essential parts. I can't believe I was on Mars and wishing I could have a general chat filled with trolls and scammers.
It's:
-Legendary
-Exotic
-10-12 ascendant shards or energy
-6-10 strange coins
There's no gauntlet, but the helm will get you comfortably to 26+.
Denied. I did the Nightfall last night and while my friend scored 10 Strange Coins, I ended up with an exotic Titan helm. The one where enemies become blinded when they enter your defense bubble.
I hear this helmet is massively sought out and if there were a trade system I wouldve totally given it someone.
But I dismantled that bitch for ass shards =D
Goodacre0081
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Replying to this again with pictures. It definitely does increase the damage.
Here's a pic of me getting headshots with it before the upgrade. 34 damage.
And here's a screengrab from a youtube video with someone who does have the upgrade. 43 damage.
this is a great time to ask about the different codex toggles for PVP situations. would those factor into damage?
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nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Can NEVER have enough ass shards.
Hmm, I would really love to do some detailed testing in a controlled PvP match.
I thought the impact stat does affect how much damage you're doing in the crucible and is represented by the damage numbers. I know attack numbers don't mean anything, an uncommon rifle and an exotic one will do the same exact damage but only if their impact stats are exactly the same. The faster firing rifles have really low impact, thus really low damage numbers when getting hits, but the faster fire rate evens it out.
AR and shotty were nerfed already? Didn't notice a big difference since I'm an up close and personal kinda Titan.
Yea that's the saint helm. Wanted it for when I play my Defender class so I bought the exotic engram hoping I may get it and ended up with a warlock helmet instead. Shit got dismantled for shards lol.
When I saw this block quoted I knew it was Hawkian. Thanks as always.
whenever my friend and i encounter some strange/difficult/funny situation in the game we immediately shout WE'VE WOKEN THE HIIIIIIVE!
we once rounded a corner in PvP to see the entire enemy team in front of us, turned around and ran away while shouting OHHHH SHIIIIIT WE'VE WOKEN THE HIIIIIIIIVE
Boo, I really really really wish there was a trading system or something. Now, I hope Xur is selling that helm next week for us Defender Titans.
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Deleted member 752119
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Good to know. I'll try for the helm and stop with the missions if I get it since I don't need the chest piece or care about ships.
Yeah I agree, to me it makes sense that impact still matters in PvP
StrongBlackVine
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I hope so...either that or The Last Word. Get those two and my exotic wishlist would be complete.
Yeah, you have to. Factions only take Crucible marks.
Zomba13
Member
Seriously FUCK that fucking sniper fucking queen fucking fucking bounty fuck.
First time it showed up, did it no problems. Now though, I hit people in the head but apparantly that doesn't count any more. I can't hit shit most matched and it's always putting me on maps with shit everywhere blocking sight lines making sniping impossible.
I've never understood sniping using a fucking pad. Auto Aim and auto tracking fucking ruins every shot you take.
First time it showed up, did it no problems. Now though, I hit people in the head but apparantly that doesn't count any more. I can't hit shit most matched and it's always putting me on maps with shit everywhere blocking sight lines making sniping impossible.
I've never understood sniping using a fucking pad. Auto Aim and auto tracking fucking ruins every shot you take.
I've been using The Devil You Know as my primary in PVE for the last few days and it's excellent. I've done weekly and daily missions and it's never let me down yet. It's as powerful as a scout rifle, has a mag of 12 and is great even at distance.
gamechanger87
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Some are obsessed, but the games flaws will more than likely kill it before the holidays. We are currently in a massive games draught that is about to subside and October and November are jam packed with new shiny things that will take people away. Activision pushed for this game to be released early in September so that they could take advantage of this. They knew people wanted something and the said this is the best date to release the game. Bungie even came out and said that they couldn't get the Grimoire cards in game because they ran out of time. Activision picked the date to squeeze the orange as much as they could.
Crucible will be killed off by Halo/CoD and there are not enough people in love with it to keep them around.
PVE will be killed off by everything else as Bungie is going to try and milk everyone on the progression while not adding content. The next expansion is due in December.
Bungie had the chance to strike while the iron was hot and put a game out there that would really carry over for the next 10 years. Based on their DLC schedule, they hope that reskinned missions "Queen's Wrath" will keep people around while they fix broken things like no social system and a messy loot system.
I enjoy the game for what it is, but I am only playing it right now because I have nothing else to play.
Der Flatulator
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(Just catching up)
Shotguns nerfed at longer ranges: Great.
Scout Rifles buffed: Great.
Loot cave closed: Great.
More voice communication: Great.
Changing Cryphtarch... Need more info.
But NERFING ARs? Nooooooooooo!
Shotguns nerfed at longer ranges: Great.
Scout Rifles buffed: Great.
Loot cave closed: Great.
More voice communication: Great.
Changing Cryphtarch... Need more info.
But NERFING ARs? Nooooooooooo!
I wish I'd made that more clear. I can't edit it unfortunately
For the moment, Factions are primarily for PvP or Split PvE-PvP players only. The only non-crucible way to earn Cru Marks is just atrocious.
yup. nailed it.
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