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[dcassell]

Update on my 970 EVGA ACX 1.0 SC card: no issues other than a small one that doesn't really affect me too much. If I unlock the framerate on it and it goes above 100, I get noticeable coil whine. When running menus non-vsync, the noise is unbearable. But I have a 60hz monitor, so it isn't a real issue, especially since I prefer v sync at 60 fps. First noticed it when playing Wasteland 2, I set the target fps at 120, and heard the high pitched whine. I normally use headphones, so it doesn't bother me. Also, it doesn't whine when under heavy load, just at high frame rates.

Oh, and the performance is flawless. Easily gets 60 fps on all games at 1080p. MSAA will SOMETIMES have to be turned from 8x to 4x in stuff like far cry 3, but I really can't tell the difference. Extremely happy with the purchase.

 

[Addnan]

Nope. But I am going EVGA to step-up when they hit.

Since when can you upgrade within the same GPU class?

They allowed it with the 780 but that was a one off. I wouldn't think they would allow a RAM upgrade again.

 

[iavi]

Since when can you upgrade within the same GPU class?

They were allowing it for the 6gb 780/780Ti, iirc

 

[Windom Earle]

Cool, I hope they do it again then. Would definitely be interested.

 

[Bad_Boy]

With the go pro 4 rumors, looks like ill be getting one of these cards for 4k video editing.

 

[Seanspeed]

With the go pro 4 rumors, looks like ill be getting one of these cards for 4k video editing.

I think I heard the 780/Titan/780Ti cards were actually better if you want to do that.

 

[HT UK]

So what's the consensus on the Gigabyte 970 compared to the MSI Gaming edition? Is the Gigabyte worth the extra ~£20?

 

[Addnan]

So what's the consensus on the Gigabyte 970 compared to the MSI Gaming edition? Is the Gigabyte worth the extra ~£20?

For a UK based return service for me it would be, but in terms of performance probably not.

 

[Seanspeed]

So what's the consensus on the Gigabyte 970 compared to the MSI Gaming edition? Is the Gigabyte worth the extra ~£20?

Gigabyte is a very long card. Make sure it will fit before getting it. It is supposed to have slightly better cooling, though.

 

[Witchfinder General]

Dude thank you so much for this

No prob. Hope it helps.


Can anyone tell me if idle temps in the high 50s and low 60s is normal for an OC'd 970? In game usage it never goes above 67-68 (except occasionally a few degrees higher with Dead Rising 3).

 

[Seanspeed]

No prob. Hope it helps.


Can anyone tell me if idle temps in the high 50s and low 60s is normal for an OC'd 970? In game usage it never goes above 67-68 (except occasionally a few degrees higher with Dead Rising 3).

That's very high. Do you have an an MSI or Asus card with fans that shut off below a certain temperature?

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Gigabyte is a very long card. Make sure it will fit before getting it. It is supposed to have slightly better cooling, though.

Should be fine in a BitFenix prodigy?

I just assumed it would be the same dimensions as my 780 with the same cooler :/

 

[Seanspeed]

Should be fine in a BitFenix prodigy?

I just assumed it would be the same dimensions as my 780 with the same cooler :/

I have no idea. Hopefully! lol

 

[Thoraxes]

Westmont, IL.

Yeah, its not on the website yet. I had to call the store.

Well shit.

I was just there today too. Grabbed my 5820k, mobo, and RAM. I guess they didn't keep them out with the rest of the cards, so I probably should've asked just in case and they would've got it for me.

 

[JaseC]

Should be fine in a BitFenix prodigy?

I just assumed it would be the same dimensions as my 780 with the same cooler :/

Reddit says the Gigabyte card is 312mm in length and according to Techreport's overview of the Prodigy, the case supports cards up to 335mm if the HDD cage is removed.

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

I don't remember if my HDD cage is removed

Brb computer surgery

Still gotta wait until Amazon ships the damn thing, apparently it will arrive on the 6th of Oct.

Edit:

All good, HDD cage is removed. PHEW.

 

[The Janitor]

Slightly off-topic but I just removed dust out of the fan on my Titan. It was like a thick ring of dust that I could just pull out.
After that my temps dropped about 9°C. So yeah.. if your 980 ever gets suspiciously hot you might wanna check that out

 

[megateto]

Slightly off-topic but I just removed dust out of the fan on my Titan. It was like a thick ring of dust that I could just pull out.
After that my temps dropped about 9°C. So yeah.. if your 980 ever gets suspiciously hot you might wanna check that out

If you have dust problems in just two weeks of use, you shouldn't be looking at your gpu but at the general state of your house XD.

 

[CybernatonEvolution]

Is the new downsampling feature optimized? What about Antialiasing for DX11 games?

I might upgrade my GTX 780, but the new 980 doesn't look that powerful. I might go with EVGA.

 

[Durante]

Is the new downsampling feature optimized?

What do you mean by that?
The downsampling itself takes pretty much 0 time, as you would expect. Rendering at whatever resolution you downsample from takes as much time as rendering that resolution natively, also as you would expect. There's basically no room for "optimization" here.

 

[CybernatonEvolution]

What do you mean by that?
The downsampling itself takes pretty much 0 time, as you would expect. Rendering at whatever resolution you downsample from takes as much time as rendering that resolution natively, also as you would expect. There's basically no room for "optimization" here.

I mean does it offer any advantages compared to "traditional" downsampling? No hardware exploits?

 

[The Janitor]

If you have dust problems in just two weeks of use, you shouldn't be looking at your gpu but at the general state of your house XD.

I meant if you ever have problems down the line, you should check it out. Not after two weeks

 

[Tommy DJ]

Reddit says the Gigabyte card is 312mm in length and according to Techreport's overview of the Prodigy, the case supports cards up to 335mm if the HDD cage is removed.

Reddit and Gigabyte are wrong. The card is ~300mm. I don't have the card anymore but it fits inside my Silverstone FT02 with about a finger thickness of clearance left. If you don't know, the Silverstone FT02 has only 12.2" of GPU clearance.

Its not as long as some people are claiming. Its about as long as AMD's recent offerings. Its just a lot longer than every GTX 970 on the market.

 

[pettson3816]

I want the Asus 970, because i've heard reports about coil whine from other manufacturers cards. Will the Asus fit in my Fractal Design Node 304 at all?

 

[Kvik]

Welp, seems like I'm stuck with my 5850 until November :\

 

[kharma45]

Based Amazon UK. Thought I would check what can be done about my overly noisy PS4, they are giving refund. YAY. As soon as a pair of 970s are in stock they will be mine

At times they're almost too willing to refund :lol

 

[ThoseDeafMutes]

Welp, seems like I'm stuck with my 5850 until November :\

There must have been a delay in the "GBBR5" production.

 

[Deleted member 102362]

A bit late on the pic here, but I just had to show off my cable management, and how amazing the Define R4 case is.
This is the MSI Gaming 4G GTX 970.

That's some clean cable management. What case is that?

Also you left two of the blue plastic nubs on your card.

 

[Bad_Boy]

I think I heard the 780/Titan/780Ti cards were actually better if you want to do that.

Why so? I'm not educated on the subject, anything would be better than my current situation.

 

[Qassim]

I mean does it offer any advantages compared to "traditional" downsampling? No hardware exploits?

Well if I recall correctly, it's refresh rate and monitor independent, so you don't have to mess around with finding acceptable timings and refresh rate to get it to accept your custom resolution. Although GeDoSaTo already offers that for DX9 games.

 

[kharma45]

That's some clean cable management. What case is that?

Also you left two of the blue plastic nubs on your card.

Fractal Define R4.

 

[Salaadin]

That's some clean cable management. What case is that?

That's the Fractal Define R4

It's a great case. I have one too.

 

[AndyBNV]

I mean does it offer any advantages compared to "traditional" downsampling?

Yes. It works on any monitor, there's no mucking around, and our Gaussian Tap filter gives you better IQ than traditional Downsampling. It also works at all refresh rates, so 144Hz 3840x2160 --> 1920x1080 is possible with enough GPU power.

 

[Witchfinder General]

That's very high. Do you have an an MSI or Asus card with fans that shut off below a certain temperature?

Yers, I have the Asus.

Yes. It works on any monitor, there's no mucking around, and our Gaussian Tap filter gives you better IQ than traditional Downsampling. It also works at all refresh rates, so 144Hz 3840x2160 --> 1920x1080 is possible with enough GPU power.

Where do I go to find this feature? Do I have to do it only via Nvidia supported games through the Nvidia Experience software?

 

[AndyBNV]

Where do I go to find this feature? Do I have to do it only via Nvidia supported games through the Nvidia Experience software?

It's supported directly in GeForce Experience by over two dozen games, but if what you want to play isn't included, open the NVIDIA Control Panel:

Then select the new DSR resolution in-game.

 

[TheBowen]

Just wondering is there any comparisons between the 970 and the 670 anywhere? would just like to see what the difference is too see if it's worth an upgrade in the future

 

[Addnan]

Is this DSR independent of your monitors capability? My old Bravia could downsample to hell and back but this new one can only go to 1440p.. Hoping this thing will allow 4K again?

 

[ktroopa]

Running the MSI 970 with my i72600K @ 4.4GHZ and its supa smooth in Far Cry 3 now. 1080p is plenty for me and this card shines. best buy ever!

 

[michaelius]

Just wondering is there any comparisons between the 970 and the 670 anywhere? would just like to see what the difference is too see if it's worth an upgrade in the future

http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1349?vs=1355

looks like pretty good jump

 

[gunbo13]

IIRC, the rumor that nvidia is going to release them any time soon isn't even substantiated (I may be wrong though).

Yep, purely a rumor at this point.

"980 / 970 4GB reference cards with 8GB coming at a later date with custom coolers. Can’t say any more but don’t expect a huge leap in performance over current single GPU stuff."

There must have been a delay in the "GBBR5" production.

Bubble Beta Rate runs 4GB VRAM as 8.

Is this DSR independent of your monitors capability? My old Bravia could downsample to hell and back but this new one can only go to 1440p.. Hoping this thing will allow 4K again?

I run my Sharp Aquos at 4K ds to 1080p FWIW.

 

[Seanspeed]

Is this DSR independent of your monitors capability?

Yep.

 

[AndyBNV]

Is this DSR independent of your monitors capability? My old Bravia could downsample to hell and back but this new one can only go to 1440p.. Hoping this thing will allow 4K again?

Yes, that's why I love it so much. That and it works in Win 8.1.

 

[Witchfinder General]

It's supported directly in GeForce Experience by over two dozen games, but if what you want to play isn't included, open the NVIDIA Control Panel:

Then select the new DSR resolution in-game.

I see, thanks. So if I leave the downsampling on, it will automatically force it through every game I launch? ANd this gives me better image quality/performance than selecting a higher res in-game?

 

[r3n4ud]

Running the MSI 970 with my i72600K @ 4.4GHZ and its supa smooth in Far Cry 3 now. 1080p is plenty for me and this card shines. best buy ever!

Have exact same setup as you, and you're making it real damn hard waiting for my card to come in :/

C'mon ncix!

 

[paskowitz]

Welp, seems like I'm stuck with my 5850 until November :

Is this normal for video card launches?

I sold my GPU last week. Looks like this is going to be a long drought.

 

[AndyBNV]

I see, thanks. So if I leave the downsampling on, it will automatically force it through every game I launch? ANd this gives me better image quality/performance than selecting a higher res in-game?

It enables extra resolutions in games that you can select. Example: You can pick 3840x2160 on your 1920x1080 monitor. Image is shrunk back down to 1920x1080 and filtered with our DSR tech, giving you way better graphics.

Performance impact is the same as playing at 3840x2160 on a 3840x2160 monitor.

In other words, you have spare performance available at 19x10, and DSR enables you to use all over it to improve graphics.

 

[Witchfinder General]

It enables extra resolutions in games that you can select. Example: You can pick 3840x2160 on your 1920x1080 monitor. Image is shrunk back down to 1920x1080 and filtered with our DSR tech, giving you way better graphics.

Performance impact is the same as playing at 3840x2160 on a 3840x2160 monitor.

In other words, you have spare performance available at 19x10, and DSR enables you to use all over it to improve graphics.

So image quality is better than the normal way of downsampling which is me creating custom resolutions and selecting them in-game?

Thanks for answering my questions, btw.

 

[Durante]

So image quality is better than the normal way of downsampling which is me creating custom resolutions and selecting them in-game?

Yes, driver level downsampling has pretty bad IQ actually in terms of scaling filter.

Fake edit: the old type of driver level downsampling that is. This is getting complicated

 

[Dictator93]

Yes, driver level downsampling has pretty bad IQ actually in terms of scaling filter.

Fake edit: the old type of driver level downsampling that is. This is getting complicated

I guess having DSR as a new name, while totally obvious in marketing terms, also helps our discussion of it as well.

 

[Salaadin]

Damn. Are 970s and 980s both showing late October/early November releases now?

Im hoping that's just an over estimation.