TetraGenesis
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Listening to Podcast Beyond's take on it. UGH. They miss the point by so much they might as well be in another timezone.
Assassin's Creed "Parity": Unity is 900p/30fps on both PS4 & Xbox One
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FC4 is cross gen
Currently confirmed to be 1080/30 on PS4 and using HRAA, a promising new AA solution.
You really think their newest statement is more than a try to save face? Big publisher don't really spark trust in me especially if they get caught because a dev talked the truth and didnt think about PR.
EA has been stealthily doing this parity shit for a while now with their sports series, namely NHL, MADDEN, FIFA, UFC, latest releases.
Pathfinder
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It wasn't a developer who said it though, was it?
EDIT: It was a senior producer, someone who probably isn't hands-on with the actual coding of the game.
Senior Producer it says in the op.
SolidSnakex
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A producer will absolutely know what's going on with development and what sort of directions they're taking. That's part of their job.
ultratruman
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It's funny to read people saying ms doesn't care about resolution of multiplat titles after stories like the D3 developers being told less than 1080p wasn't acceptable and how they made a big deal about the extra-GPU power freed up by removing kinect motion tracking etc.
Ubi are pushing the technical beauty of this game hard.
If MS wants the Xbone version of Unity to be seen as the lead SKU then of course they wouldn't want the PS4 version to be superior in any marketable way, especially when you consider the AC franchise's legacy on PS consoles.
Ubi are pushing the technical beauty of this game hard.
If MS wants the Xbone version of Unity to be seen as the lead SKU then of course they wouldn't want the PS4 version to be superior in any marketable way, especially when you consider the AC franchise's legacy on PS consoles.
Pathfinder
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Fair enough, I wasn't sure.
Wasnt really thinking about sports games because i find them mostly quite underwhelming visually.
Interesting. But what about the One? 900/30? 1080/30 lesser AA? Nevermind. Let me guess? No word yet, right?
Crossing Eden
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Marketing deal usually=little news about the other version of the game.
Windom Earle
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Yeah, this should not be forgotten. Ubi guy gets shat on (deservedly so...) for being honest, but EA gets away with it.
Lemme get this straight...
So first the target was 1080p60,
Then they said "we would do 100fps if we could, but we can't because AI"
And now, Assassin's Creed Unity's Creative Director says: "30 was our goal, it feels more cinematic. 60 is really good for a shooter, action adventure not so much. It actually feels better for people when it's at that 30fps. It also lets us push the limits of everything to the maximum."
Techradar: Vive la résolution! Assassin's Creed dev thinks industry is dropping 60 fps standard
How messy is this going to get?
So first the target was 1080p60,
Then they said "we would do 100fps if we could, but we can't because AI"
And now, Assassin's Creed Unity's Creative Director says: "30 was our goal, it feels more cinematic. 60 is really good for a shooter, action adventure not so much. It actually feels better for people when it's at that 30fps. It also lets us push the limits of everything to the maximum."
Techradar: Vive la résolution! Assassin's Creed dev thinks industry is dropping 60 fps standard
How messy is this going to get?
Considering how glitchy some of the AC games are upon launch, I wouldn't be surprised if they really do work right up until the 23rd hour to get things finalized. The story right now just seems to be:
1) Prototype or development milestone is reached. All departments are more or less providing very early work. Things run fantastic because there isn't as much overhead; there is likely some projection re: how things will scale when the full game is released.
2) Teams actually start implementing things that will be in the beta of the game. Engine cannot handle it. Team starts panicking. Leaders need to backpedal on statements that were made during step 1 because they now realize that the weight of their game is starting to creak at the seams.
3) Sell game. Profit. Requiscat en pace.
DoubledOgre
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FOLLOW THE MONEY
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Now that's stupid. Film framerate and video game framerate are two completely different things. And the industry dropped the 60fps standard a long time ago. We're trying to bring it back. There's absolutely no reason to spin it, we know that these consoles can't handle this game at 60fps without any compromises, especially not this early in their lifespan.
Gaffercake
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An almighty wow. They can't make up their mind about anything.
You forgot some PC users getting involved.
DustyVonEric
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thelastcrusader
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I for one don't care for 60fps and honestly don't love it. I kind of agree with him, sometimes 60fps feels fake BUT 1080P. I NEED 1080P!
TAJ
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No, they gave the impression that they might backtrack to prevent some people from cancelling preorders.
the linked article makes me despair. he's saying 60 fps is not good for action adventure and the Hobbit movies look weird. we'll look back at articles like this and marvel at the short-sightedness.
BreezyLimbo
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....Wait, is he trying to equate that somehow the Hobbit movie being 60 fps, and that looking 'weird' because it's a fricking movie, that somehow that means that adventure games shouldn't be 60 fps either? Really?
I just can't..
The exact quote-
I just can't..
The exact quote-
SolidSnakex
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UBI's AC team really just needs to start communicating through press releases only.
BlastProcessing
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The Hobbit was only 48fps too. If they really want it to look like a movie, they should really knock the framerate down to 24fps!
60fps is a bit jarring when you first see it, but once you get used to it, you can definitely tell the difference.
Shin-Ra
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You can lessen it to the point it's not visible enough to be distracting any more. Realistically that's only going to happen with relatively simple games this gen (see: N++) but you want to minimise it as much as possible, whatever the game.
I don't understand how 900p is the magic resolution for you.
If you have to be looking for it in Destiny, you can't be all that sensitive to it after all.
bahaha. This interview sounds straight out of 2013 with all the frame rate and resolution dismissals
Mr Moose
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ACIV shipped at 900p on Ps4. It was patched to 1080p a few days later.When did this happen? Wait a minute, are you making things up?
Mr Moose
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I know, but was there a struggle to get it to 1080p?
endlessflood
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That's worse for us as consumers though, because then they'll obfuscate the truth as much as possible wherever that would help their cause. If they'd only been communicating through press releases we wouldn't have known about the game being 900p on PS4 until after released. That would have been great for them but shithouse for us.
No, DF framerate analysis showed a locked 30 fps throughout their test.
Jesus, not this again. I thought we were past this.
Has he learned nothing from the mocking other industry people have had to endure for making that statement?
Relaxed Muscle
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Does that guy actually think he's doing damage control when he's doing that interview?
Because if so, he might be an idiot.
BreezyLimbo
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This is like watching a slow moving train that you know is going to crash into a huge pillow of marshmallow, and you just can't look away.
I'm not sure how it could be interpreted any other way. Xbox third party games looking better or at parity with the PS4 has been a huge messaging challenge since the release of system specs. It has always mattered. That's why people like Penello came in here to prop their stuff up.
This is something that Microsoft cares about. This is something all console manufacturers care about.
funkystudent
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"Is it the number or the quality of the pixels that you want?" is some real "the feel of 60fps" stuff.
Scrooge McDuck
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I have to admit that I don't really care about fps/resolution and actually agree with Alex Amancio in principle.
Even so, I think it's a stupid thing to say in an interview.
Even so, I think it's a stupid thing to say in an interview.
They can have a party with the Evil within devs, and having a Cinematic FPS party.
In theory that's true. You could have a 900p game with high IQ, MSAA, SSAO, AF, motion blur, depth of field etc, vs a native 1080p with none of those things. But the reality is dropping 180p to 900p doesn't give you the headroom to add in all those effects.
1080p is the gold standard for console gaming, and on the PS4, should be absolutely standard.
I would be very surprised if they hit 1080p on the xbox one as well, very very surprised.
The DF analysis of the FC4 demo on PS4 saw it running at 1080p with dips down to 20fps and some screen tearing. That doesn't bode well for the Xbone version.
No, 1080p patch even came with better AA, some better effects, etc...
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