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Nintendo Downloads - October 2014
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Robin64
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At the minute, this is just a simple system to increase the power of each paddle the more you play with it. For example, the laser one only fires one shot at level 1.
You could theoretically get it up to level 100 where it would fire 100 shots, but that would require 247500 experience and right now I have it set that you get 1 exp per block destroyed. Values may change, but I want it so that a) there's no level cap but b) it's very time consuming to get too high
I see.
I was only partially kidding btw. I do not seriously expect an RPG mode but I also haven't seen experience points in a Breakout game, yet, so that might be an idea worth expanding upon.
Great, how much does it cost in Japan ? The two bucks or so i spend on Witch & Hero were some of the best bucks i spent on the eShop.
DoktorEvil
Banned
You've probably haven't heard this yet, but as they say in Dark Souls, GIT GUD.
Action RPG is the new future. Turn by Turn RPGs are antiquated.
Strategy can be incorporated in Action RPG if done right.
FF13 would be even better had it gone with an Action RPG Battle style like Kingdom Hearts.
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Gotta love them and their competitive prices, thanks.
TheMoon
Member
It's like we live in opposite land. Ultra-traditional turn-based combat is my kryptonite.
I'm flashing back to the guy in that one Xenoblade LTTP thread who claimed Xenoblade was turn based because you had to wait for cooldowns
No.
Well, nobody said "action game" but "action RPG" - there's both.
TheMoon
Member
BD has great turn-based combat that removes all the hassle and annoyances! Another one with great turn-based combat is Radiant Historia or the Golden Sun series. Those do it right. But classic FF-style or ATB combat is my nemesis. I guess I can tolerate ATB in the games it originated in but put it in new games and I'll fall asleep at the wheel.
DoktorEvil
Banned
What about Zelda? That's probably the longest running action RPG series I can recall.
PixyJunket
Member
Zelda is not an RPG.
terrisus
Member
Indeed, Zelda (aside from Zelda 2) is pretty much the textbook definition of an Adventure game.
DoktorEvil
Banned
That Zelda site is pretty good. I like the encyclopedia.
FWIW, I've always been told Zelda is an action RPG and action-adventure game. I don't think people used to call games action-adventure games, though, that term is a bit newer in my experience; maybe that's why Zelda used to be considered an action RPG by more people.
terrisus
Member
Because there's a category which not only describes it perfectly, but which is pretty much defined by it.
DoktorEvil
Banned
I felt the series has always fit the action RPG role. Even the original game is Dark Souls by design: we're told very little backstory about Link, but we're thrown in and told to go. The Souls series is what Zelda would be if Nintendo never decided to stick to saving a princess and developing a villain like Ganon/Ganondorf.
Action-Adventure can also align with Action RPG. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
TheMoon
Member
action adventure as a term is as old as my involvement in the gaming hobby. ever since I've started gaming on the SNES zelda has been classified as an action adventure.
DoktorEvil
Banned
This is skeleton Tobey. It'll change to another Tobey post-October, but what do I deserve appreciation for? I'm merely a person who debates emotionally and logically as anyone else does, I just stopped doing the snarky one liners most other posters do.
Honestly, I classified Zelda as purely action-adventure until I played Dark Souls and it triggered a comparison.
Secret of Mana would be a more obvious Action RPG.
terrisus
Member
Sure.
But in the case of Zelda (sans 2), they are.
Pretty much this.
I don't remember anyone considering or calling any Zelda game (again, sans 2) anything to do with an "RPG" up until Ocarina of Time, at which point it seemed like people started tossing that term in randomly to make up for the N64's lack of RPGs.
I miss the Ness avatar =(
Oh, well, that's something I appreciate in and of itself!
Just different gaming circles, probably. I haven't been gaming any longer than you, probably, but back in the day the gaming circles were a lot smaller so I'm sure the kids and magazines around you were probably different than those around me.
DoktorEvil
Banned
Too many people had the same avatar so I had to go with something memorable. I thank Stormtrooper for showing me the importance of a recognizable avatar.
I didn't make the connection until Dark Souls. Then I did some reading and Miyamoto wanted the series to compete with Hydlide in Japan, so the innovations we recognize as important in the first Zelda are incremental improvements over a series that was called "action RPG" back in the day, including Link swinging his sword.
Two GBA Castlevanias, actually.
Unless the joke is that Aria of Sorrow is coming out and so HoD might as well not even exist.
Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze discount is running for 3 weeks, so presumably they are going to release one DKC every week.
DKC2 is the greatest platformer ever made. Amazing levels, awesome worlds, stunning music, tonnes of secrets, great boss battles
DKC1 is average, imo the weakest. Simplistic levels, worst graphics, terrible bosses, no real secrets
DKC3 is alright, I love it. It's basically a massive exploreandcollectathon, but thats cool.
Yup, the schedule (for at least EU) is:
16th: Donkey Kong Country & Donkey Kong Land
23rd: DKC2 & DKL2
30th: DKC3 & DKL3
Definitely don't worry about DKC3 if you don't love the first two. It's good but definitely the weakest.
DKC2 is the best but DKC might be where you want to start. The game isn't the complete package DKC2 is but it's a good place to start in terms of gameplay and structure.
CarlieCaplin
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Does this mean we won't see any other VC games aka Metroid Zero Mission on Wii U for the next 3 weeks?
terrisus
Member
TheMoon
Member
No. This doesn't mean that. Because Metroid Zero Mission wouldn't have released anyway lol. You can bet your butt that they're holding that until they randomly announce a handheld Metroid game out of the blue in some Direct. Or for the second round of Smash character-sales when the Wii U version hits ;D
CarlieCaplin
Member
Actually, that sounds reasonable! Haven't thought about that.
Believe!
SerTapTap
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DKC2 is almost universally the favorite, it's a fight between 3 and 1 beyond that. I like 3 more than 1 but it depends what you're after, DKC1 is a more classic "level after level" experience and enemies honestly have a bit more personality. Don't like most non-boss additions to DKC3 but the map is very interesting for it's time and the gameplay is quite fun. Though it'd have been better with Diddy and Dixie.
So I'd go 2 3 1 (23 is number one!), though you'll miss out on how much better DKC2 is than 1 (not that DKC1 is BAD), but it's better that you miss that than get turned off by DKC1's flaws.
So I'd go 2 3 1 (23 is number one!), though you'll miss out on how much better DKC2 is than 1 (not that DKC1 is BAD), but it's better that you miss that than get turned off by DKC1's flaws.
I like them all but DKC3 the least.
I have a little story about this, actually. I didn't buy many games in the SNES era, mostly just rented them (I'm guessing I'm not alone in that since it's a reflection of the times). My friend had DKC1 which is how I became fond of the series. I rented DKC2 several times and really enjoyed it, finally my parents said they'd buy me a copy. We went to Wal-Mart or something and DKC2 was nowhere to be found on the shelves. All they had was DKC3. I was shocked by this revelation, and even though I really wanted DKC2, I decided might as well just grab DKC3 instead. I can't remember the exact rationale behind this decision, but that's what happened. Gotta be honest, I never quite got to love DKC3 as much as the other two, despite it being the only game in the trilogy I owned until it was re-released on Wii VC.
I have a little story about this, actually. I didn't buy many games in the SNES era, mostly just rented them (I'm guessing I'm not alone in that since it's a reflection of the times). My friend had DKC1 which is how I became fond of the series. I rented DKC2 several times and really enjoyed it, finally my parents said they'd buy me a copy. We went to Wal-Mart or something and DKC2 was nowhere to be found on the shelves. All they had was DKC3. I was shocked by this revelation, and even though I really wanted DKC2, I decided might as well just grab DKC3 instead. I can't remember the exact rationale behind this decision, but that's what happened. Gotta be honest, I never quite got to love DKC3 as much as the other two, despite it being the only game in the trilogy I owned until it was re-released on Wii VC.
I think you're a bit too harsh on DKC1. It's not the revolution it was in 1994 to be sure but the game definitely holds up.
DKC2 is the superior game though, no question.
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DKC3's biggest problem, or strength, is that it has a TON of different gimmicks. Like every level usually has a new gimmick, some good, some bad. So you might either like the evolving challenges, or hate how a lot of times you'd rather just be platforming.
It also dumps Rambi for the stupidest Animal Buddy Trash ever, Elly, and an obnoxious level where you have to avoid rats. The only other new Animal Buddy is a stupid bird who mirrors your moves and can grab hard to reach items. And Kiddy is a poor man's Donkey Kong, except he has the cool water-bounce-roll which DK has in Tropical Freeze.
I like it overall, though. It's theme...very northern, is quite unique. There's not really a video-game that feels quite like the world of Krematoa. The music is also really odd, not as catchy as the other soundtracks, but grows on you.
It also dumps Rambi for the stupidest Animal Buddy Trash ever, Elly, and an obnoxious level where you have to avoid rats. The only other new Animal Buddy is a stupid bird who mirrors your moves and can grab hard to reach items. And Kiddy is a poor man's Donkey Kong, except he has the cool water-bounce-roll which DK has in Tropical Freeze.
I like it overall, though. It's theme...very northern, is quite unique. There's not really a video-game that feels quite like the world of Krematoa. The music is also really odd, not as catchy as the other soundtracks, but grows on you.
Kiddy Kong's really the only major thing I didn't like about DKC3. That, & Elly being really annoying at times (screw the boss battle where ya have to use him, had no idea how to do it as a kid). I recall DKC3 was one I played a lot as a kid, probably even more than DKC if memory serves correctly....but could've been due to it being a harder game for me.
DoktorEvil
Banned
Are the DKC Wii U releases coming to NA any time soon?
Or is it only EU exclusive?
Or is it only EU exclusive?
terrisus
Member
I think it came out after N64, so that might've been why.