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ARROW Season 3 |OT| Welcome to the New Age

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There's no way they'll bring Tommy back, right? The dude can't pull a Obito on us. I would kind of love it, but I can't imagine how he would've survived. Though I suppose ARGUS might have done something nefarious to him or whatever?
 
Only Ollie and Laurel would put Tommy in the pit. No one else gave a damn about him like that.

strafer said:
As much as I hated Tommy, I feel he was the only one keeping Oliver sane.
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Which is why he had to die. If he came back, he'd be the only one pointing out how fucked this all is.
 
NotTheGuyYouKill said:
She's the hottest one.
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NotTheGuyYouKill said:
This would be an amazing twist if they pulled it off
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I want some kind of scene where Ollie is legit shook. It would be amazing.

Also a little nitpick, I wish there was less flashbacks. They aren't as interesting as they were before . They should only be flashbacks that tie into present day. I don't know where the China subplot is going but I don't like it
 
CreeperBlocks said:
I want some kind of scene where Ollie is legit shook. It would be amazing.
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Ain't so such thing as halfway hoods,

CreeperBlocks said:
Also a little nitpick, I wish there was less flashbacks. They aren't as interesting as they were before . They should only be flashbacks that tie into present day. I don't know where the China subplot is going but I don't like it
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I agree that the flashbacks are.. less intriguing but I always hated that they were literal parallels to current day issues. I feel like they've switched that up this seasons to long form slow burn influence on current day (though that could very well be a gross misinterpretation) but at this point, I'm invested enough to deal with them suffering.
 
OMG at the title change.

<3

CreeperBlocks said:
I want some kind of scene where Ollie is legit shook. It would be amazing.

Also a little nitpick, I wish there was less flashbacks. They aren't as interesting as they were before . They should only be flashbacks that tie into present day. I don't know where the China subplot is going but I don't like it
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Yeah, the flashbacks have been weak this season. They really need to tie it into the present day.
 
Another passenger on board the flashback disapproval bandwagon.

Maybe they have a good reason for it as well as some twists up their sleeves, but the Hong Kong material feels like a huge misstep so far.
 
Snake said:
Another passenger on board the flashback disapproval bandwagon.

Maybe they have a good reason for it as well as some twists up their sleeves, but the Hong Kong material feels like a huge misstep so far.
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Flashbacks in the first season also took fucking forever to actually get going. It wasn't until Slade that things kicked off really.

Last year the flashbacks were tied too closely to current day and sucked because of it.

This year it looks like they are setting up Outsider Wars with the flashbacks and developing Waller. Interstly the China White plot is really exciting. She is the main villain of Green Arrow: Year One and was terrific in that comic. It is a shame that she was fucking awful in S1 and S2 in Starling but maybe the writers explain that this is a different China White or something.
 
If they ever do a Merlyn flashback...

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Malcolm Merlyn: You're vigilantes.

Ra's al Ghul: No, no, no. A vigilante is just a man lost in the scramble for his own gratification. He can be destroyed, or locked up. But if you make yourself more than just a man, if you devote yourself to an ideal, and if they can't stop you, then you become something else entirely.

Malcolm: Which is?

Ra's: Legend, Mr. Merlyn. Legend.

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Season 5 on Lian Yu:


Laurel Lance: Why didn't you just... kill me?

Slade Wilson: You don't fear death... You welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.

Laurel: Torture?

Slade: Yes. But not of your body... Of your soul.

Laurel: Where am I?

Slade: Home, where I learned the truth about despair, as will you. There's a reason why this prison is the worst hell on earth... Hope. Every man who has been stranded here over the centuries has looked out to the sea and imagined swimming to freedom. So easy... So simple... And like shipwrecked men turning to sea water from uncontrollable thirst, many have died trying. I learned here that there can be no true despair without hope. So, as I terrorize Starling, I will feed its people hope to poison their souls. I will let them believe they can survive so that you can watch them clamoring over each other to stay in the sun. You can watch me torture an entire city and when you have truly understood the depth of your failure, I will fulfill Shado's destiny... I will destroy Starling and then, when it is done and Starling is ashes... then you have my permission to die.

I couldn't think of a new villain outside of Slade or Bane that this piece of dialogue would work for.

But man, imagine if Laurel got stranded on Lian yu
 
The point of the flashbacks this season was supposed to Oliver losing his humanity or whatever wasn't it? Which was supposed to run along with Oliver in present day starting to lighten up and continue to regain it.

EDIT: Yeah, Komodo was pretty disappointing in how he was handled.

ReiGun said:
Only Ollie and Laurel would put Tommy in the pit. No one else gave a damn about him like that.
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Even his father was like "fuck that guy, he was a pussy" when talking to Thea about him.
 
They can fix/recast Komodo, easy.

Mario007 said:
This year it looks like they are setting up Outsider Wars with the flashbacks and developing Waller. Interstly the China White plot is really exciting. She is the main villain of Green Arrow: Year One and was terrific in that comic. It is a shame that she was fucking awful in S1 and S2 in Starling but maybe the writers explain that this is a different China White or something.
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They used a photo and it was the same actress.

Arrow screws up a lot of characters the first few times they appear. Takes a while to work out the kinks. I'm reasonably confident they'll do better by Komodo next time (or kill him and replace the actor) and it looks like they're doing China White's bad ass Year One story or something similar so fuck it I'll trust them to get there eventually.
 
I guess since everyone has low standards it could work. Anyone else that pays attention to what happens outside of Roy flips and the last 5 minutes? no.

"Oh hey, that guy that we said was Simon Lacroix aka Komodo? Yeah just pretend that never happened pls. Thx! here's some more Ollie treating Felicity like shit."
 
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