10 year old girl attends Smash Bros WiiU event. Beats several top West Coast players.

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Again pretty much all of these are mid teens, I can understand that. And I would love to see evidence of this 8 year old 'Noah' beating some of the best MVC3 players in the world. I'd eat humble crow by the spoonful.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/07/31/eight-year-old-noah-brings-the-pain-to-pro-players-at-evo-2011/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayane

Kayane has been a gamer since her early childhood, interested in a variety of genres.[7] In 2001, she won the second place in France's vice-champion in Dead or Alive 2 at an age of nine
 
You obviously weren't around arcades in the 90s. I had no problems beating adults and teens at sf2 and mortal kombat. And those were far more competitive than smash bros.

I dont have a problem with her beating anyone. I have a problem with the insinuation she beat some of the best smash bros players in the USA. Did you beat some of the top players in sf2 and mortal kombat just happening to play you randomly?

I am just curious if this is a good young in beating strangers and randoms or as the title presents, beats several top US players..
 
Unless someone else knows of any other competitive game where a 10 year old can win against adult 'pros' I think my opinion won't change. I really would like to know how legit these videos are though. Is she really versing top tier pros? Cause if so..

You somehow sound too defensive.
Ofc 10yos can beat adults in competitive games, as they have the advantage of faster reflexes, movement, and adaptability.
The problem with kids is not that they are dumb, far from it. Their problem is apathy. When a kid has a hobby they like and dedicate their time on it, they can be amazing on it.
And also, you got it wrong. Smash 4 is competitive and requires you to have skill with the game to beat a skilled player. While i agree that it is no Melee, its skill requirement is high and definitelly higher than that of Brawl.
I wonder why a young girl being very skilled in a competitive game, something that should be celebrated, has spawned talk of whether the pro players are really pro, or whether the competitive game is really competitive.
 
Again pretty much all of these are mid teens, I can understand that. And I would love to see evidence of this 8 year old 'Noah' beating some of the best MVC3 players in the world. I'd eat humble crow by the spoonful.

You are on the Internet. Google NOAH MVC3
 
I dont have a problem with her beating anyone. I have a problem with the insinuation she beat some of the best smash bros players in the USA. Did you beat some of the top players in sf2 and mortal kombat just happening to play you randomly?

I am just curious if this is a good young in beating strangers and randoms or has the title presents beats several top players..

In my area yes. Why are you assuming I'm talking about randoms? There were tournaments everywhere back then, and I placed in many of them. Riding my bike to them after elementary school.

Its amazing that you think a 10 year old can't do something better than an adult.
 
You somehow sound too defensive.
Ofc 10yos can beat adults in competitive games, as they have the advantage of faster reflexes, movement, and adaptability.
The problem with kids is not that they are dumb, far from it. Their problem is apathy. When a kid has a hobby they like and dedicate their time on it, they can be amazing on it.
And also, you got it wrong. Smash 4 is competitive and requires you to have skill with the game to beat a skilled player. While i agree that it is no Melee, its skill requirement is high and definitelly higher than that of Brawl.
I wonder why a young girl being very skilled in a competitive game, something that should be celebrated, has spawned talk of whether the pro players are really pro, or whether the competitive game is really competitive.

Well fair enough, I guess if Noah can beat adults and only being 8 there are those who just click with the games very well. I am prepared to say I was wrong and it's a real eye opener to those who are so young yet skilled.
 
These links aren't directly from reddit. They link to other sites. Calm your emotions.

As for the video, good for her doing so well. Its always cool to see someone so young do well at games against people who have been playing for years.

Edit: oh and ssb isn't a real fighting game. You know.

But what's wrong with reddit? Does GAF hate it or something?
 
Heh I remember my friend coaching his friends in Melee over a decade ago, some of the dudes were like 11 and they attended tourneys and wrecked face. Back then we had time and willpower to dedicate ourselves to videgames...
 
I am just curious if this is a good young in beating strangers and randoms or as the title presents, beats several top US players..

Yeah, the title is misleading. D1 isn't a top player. He mostly commentates, but you won't see him get in the top 20-50% ranking for any tournament.

The other video is also someone I've never heard of or seen. If they are a top Smash player it's for Brawl not Melee or PM, but even then it's probably someone active in the scene, but not necessarily competitive at the pro level.

For the sake of the adorableness of the story I think the title is fine, but, yeah these aren't 'top players,' by any means.

It's not a big deal, but just for the sake of clarity.
 
When I was young I was insanely good at UT and Q3. By chance I crossed paths with a top player in the #3 clan in the world in UT and after an hour or so of dueling (which they invited me to because my skill caught their attention) I had adapted to their style and was thrashing them. I'll never each those heights in shooters again because my brain and nervous system don't have that freshness.

This factor is actually one of the things that makes me find Jaedong so impressive. He's holding up quite well for his age in vs all these young upstarts in such an intensive game.
 
Yeah, the title is misleading. D1 isn't a top player. He mostly commentates, but you won't see him get in the top 20-50% ranking for any tournament.

The other video is also someone I've never heard of or seen. If they are a top Smash player it's for Brawl not Melee or PM, but even then it's probably someone active in the scene, but not necessarily competitive at the pro level.

For the sake of the adorableness of the story I think the title is fine, but, yeah these aren't 'top players,' by any means.

It's not a big deal, but just for the sake of clarity.
Sky in the other video is ranked 3rd on the West Coast, and Xzak is ranked 8th. They are Brawl players but the title is accurate, and from the Twitter accounts it sounds like she was just beating everyone and anyone in Smash 4.
 
Well fair enough, I guess if Noah can beat adults and only being 8 there are those who just click with the games very well. I am prepared to say I was wrong and it's a real eye opener to those who are so young yet skilled.
Are you sure?
Maybe MVC3 is just another casual game with a fake competitive scene. And we all know chess is just a button masher with no real strategy, which is why i assume the conversation is even ongoing since Bobby Fisher is a household name.
 
Are you sure?
Maybe MVC3 is just another casual game with a fake competitive scene. And we all know chess is just a button masher with no real strategy, which is why i assume the conversation is even ongoing since Bobby Fisher is a household name.

Good job taking what I said, completely ignoring it for your own stupidity and making your final own assumption, with ludicrous hyperbole. I stand by what I said and I'm happy to say I was wrong. Grow up.
 
Are you sure?
Maybe MVC3 is just another casual game with a fake competitive scene. And we all know chess is just a button masher with no real strategy, which is why i assume the conversation is even ongoing since Bobby Fisher is a household name.

No need for this, he admitted he was wrong and has learned something from it. That's commendable.
 
Are you sure?
Maybe MVC3 is just another casual game with a fake competitive scene. And we all know chess is just a button masher with no real strategy, which is why i assume the conversation is even ongoing since Bobby Fisher is a household name.

wtf, he acknowledged he was wrong. Are you misreading it as sarcasm or something? Either way, let it go man.
 
Good job taking what I said, completely ignoring it for your own stupidity and making your final own assumption, with ludicrous hyperbole. I stand by what I said and I'm happy to say I was wrong. Grow up.
What was my final assumption, exactly? What ludicrous hyperbole are you even referring to?

I was only saying that if your original platform was to ignorantly deny credibility, you can stick to your guns and do that indefinitely. Was disappointed to see you buckle at MVC3 when you had already ignored the documented fact of chess prodigies.

That said, OP is right. Sorry for giving you a hard time. I assume this has expanded your worldview and you will approach things you don't know with an open mind in the future.
 
Like how is this possible. I have only played the Smash Games in mutliplayer mayhem fun, but this really makes think they cant be competitive at all if some 10 year old is beating well adults..

This video shows exceptional offense, defense, execution, and knowledge of the game's deeper mechanics on her part. She's playing very, very well, particularly for her age.
 
This girl is legit. She knew to catch Diddy projectiles so they'd be better, she was fast falling and I think its DAIR cancel on the last from of the jump to remove jump recovery so she could go into smashes on edge guarders, doing short hop sheik combos off down throws, properly up jumping when thrown to avoid the KO from up throw into up air.

Girl is LEGIT. That DAIR cancel hopping from Diddy alone shows she's on some serious gamin.
 
What is bodying and what are frame traps?

I somehow never really got into the previous Smash games, even though I bought them all when they came out.
 
What is bodying and what are frame traps?

I somehow never really got into the previous Smash games, even though I bought them all when they came out.

In other fighting games, frame traps refer to you doing a seemingly unsafe move that is actually safe, tricking your opponent into throwing out an attack that you can easily counter.

Smash has a different definition of frame traps, however. In Smash, frame traps refer to inescapable attack strings. For example, you hit someone into the air as Yoshi and throw an egg at them. They airdodge, but now they are falling into, say, Yoshi's f-smash because airdodges have vulnerable recovery frames. There is nothing they can do to avoid it at that point.

And bodying is exactly what it sounds like lol. It means that you are straight up dominating your opponent.
 
I dont know what frametraps are and I dont care.

This little lady is incredible.

My sister can barely turn the camera when I give her a controller
 
Shows how awful Smash 4 is Kappa.

Just kidding. Shows how amazing Karissa is. It's great to see the newer generation picking up the game, and especially great to see someone so young already so good. I hope Karissa keeps playing and eventually enteres tournaments and things.

Meanwhile, my 9-year-old niece can't figure out how to up B back to the stage. -_-

Edit: D'awwww, sad it was fake. Oh well, at least it was cute and interesting for a little while.
 
Wow, so even in this thread you have Smash 4 shitposting, You'd think they'd avoid threads like this.

Anyway, kids tend to pick up a lot of stuff so this wouldn't be surprising, but props to her.
 
Then again I wouldn't be surprised on the shitposting, apparently some tourney event happened that rustled people's jimmies.
 
It's pretty funny how a lot of preconceived Smash purists on multiple communities will write off the chance of a new generation and fresh blood leading the pack on a new game when we have shit like this going down.

Stuff like this is one of the reasons I want to see this game do well competitively - newcomers to the scene getting a chance at besting the old guards and showing them how it's done.
 
She should play Ganondorf.

As a Ganondorf main of 10 years I must say no...no she shouldn't. The way she moves she would probably be right at home with Megaman though. Self catchable metal blade projectile to scratch her Diddy Banana itch, able to chase long distance off the bottom of the screen to make her as happy as her Sheik play, and a lot of good stuff out of short hops.
 
I'm disappointed in all the people trying to talk down her skill by saying shit like "they weren't pros though" "Smash is a button masher with no skill" "If a kid can beat an adult that means that the adult sucks of the game takes no skill".

Please, before making these comments either watch some of the videos or know a thing or two about Smash. Yeah, it's not the most complex competitive game out there but if you are better at the game than someone else you will body them (unless items are on then there is some luck involved sometimes). It's not "mashy" as if you mash you'll end up pretty much stuck in one place doing attacks that wont hit and giving your opponent the chance to get easy hits and throws on you.

She's legit good. Get over it.
 
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