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Halo: MCC might not use dedicated servers (update: p2p only as fallback, post #278)
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I would get on wireshark and prove this if i weren't at work but considering i've seen hosts migrating in Custom Games, and a stark contrast in lag between two Game Leaders (hosts) in customs (one with Comcast, 1 with awful DSL) and the latter was unplayable....
Pretty positive this is still a peer 2 peer experience.
Pretty positive this is still a peer 2 peer experience.
lastflowers
Banned
The XBL guys aren't the 343 guys. They are probably referring to 343 as an external partner. Not sure about any of this though....
Nice now we can expect an update once a year. I'm really shocked that this issue has been going on for this long the networking code must really be jacked.
friskykillface
Banned
Probably still looking lol
SneakyStephan
Banned
If you're gona do a multiplayer shooter with p2p connections then why even bother at all, rip.
I certainly think a good chunk of games i have been playing have been on dedis.
I dont think Halo CE BTB would have been as awesome if they were using P2P and for the most part it played very very well
I say P2P is a fallback... unless for some reason i am host every game but when i hold back on game start, i see all the players lag indicators the same before they disappear (host would normally show one person green, everyone else red/yellow iirc)
I dont think Halo CE BTB would have been as awesome if they were using P2P and for the most part it played very very well
I say P2P is a fallback... unless for some reason i am host every game but when i hold back on game start, i see all the players lag indicators the same before they disappear (host would normally show one person green, everyone else red/yellow iirc)
JimiNutz
Banned
I'm seriously regretting buying Halo MCC over Sunset Overdrive.
I thought that SO came out too close to MCC and that I wouldn't have time for it. What a fool.
General Zechs
Neo Member
Edit: It has both dedicated and the fallback option.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Strong statements require strong evidence, guy. This is kinda sound like FUD.
Ken Masters
Banned
Microsoft won't pay for servers for its own game?
Guys, this has already been answered by me and others on the previous pages: 343 indicated that P2P is used for Custom Matches. Regular matchmaking games are using dedicated servers. This is why different people are seeing different things regarding hosts, dedicated servers, etc. It depends on whether you are playing a custom match or not.
Skullface
Member
This has been a pretty big disappointment over all... I just want to play some H2 multiplayer. This is the whole reason I went Bone over ps4. Granted I'm having pretty good time with the updated campaign for H2. I just hope there's some official statement on this particular subject soon
SeventhSon
Member
The cloud is inside your console.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Bam Bam Baklava
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justsomeguy
Member
Nvm
KeyboardThug
Member
I have been playing online sense release with very little problems. So yes you can. Maybe not everyone has had my luck. :/
NullPointer
Member
Maybe its both ala Gears 2?
Something based upon region and capacity?
Something based upon region and capacity?
I've played about 30 matches online and i haven't exactly been trying to play a lot (waiting on ranks, stuff to be fixed)
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
I've played on dedis.
I think that may be the problem.
I suspect they've started using p2p while they are fixing this mess of a game.
I think that may be the problem.
I suspect they've started using p2p while they are fixing this mess of a game.
Seriosuly... There a screenshot proof in this page, but nope let's ignore it. I know I had the same message a couple of times.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I don't know, I expect all first party games to use dedi's.
Seems weird that a game like TF has dedi's but a Halo (even if it is just a legacy compilation) doesn't.
Then again, seems it might have dedi's after all...
No. From time to time, you'll see 2 things. First a host migration prompt and secondly it'll launch into a game loading screen without that. Also press start to see if you're able to end the game and kick players because host privileges for a party sometimes get given to a player over all players in a game
Night Angel
Member
Well shit. I was gonna grab this when I got home from training, but now... ehhhhhh
Skullface
Member
Is the host migration message not evidence?
Where are the screen shots? Been through this whole thread. Can't find the screens or a link to them
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Evolution Studios Sr. Server Engineer.
Everybody saw the message at one time. The thing is, when you finally get into a game, the dedicated servers DEFINITELY aren't working. All games have a single person acting as a host, and for that he/she has a tremendous advantage.
What we want to know is that if this is happening because of the matchmaking problems, or the HALO: MCC is going to use the same approach that Gears of War 3 did with dedicated servers, where there was a limited number of them and you had to be lucky to get into a lag-free, host advantage-less match.
Skullface
Member
Part of me wishes that they simply stuck to Halo 2 and recreated the original multiplayer experience. I really miss those days. I think the most discouraging part is the wait time in between games. I've only had the opportunity to play 3 so far, and there was something like 20 minutes of down time between loading screens, finding players, etc. I also find it strange that I have to exit the post carnage screen and select my play lost again instead of continuing until I decide to leave the lobby. Halo 2 back in the day, you'd have like 5 minutes of downtime between 3 games.
My game also froze on a loading screen after my 3rd game. -_-
My game also froze on a loading screen after my 3rd game. -_-
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
"Hopefully around all" isn't a very clear statement of intent, Phil.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I love how people are assuming they aren't using dedis when there has been no confirmation and it's entirely possible p2p is the back-up they are using while fixing dedicated server issues overall.
Let's not call it "pathetic" until we have proof, or we know they aren't just going p2p as an emergency scenario.
Let's not call it "pathetic" until we have proof, or we know they aren't just going p2p as an emergency scenario.
No screens and the thread linked died after 5 posts....This is all speculation...
Skullface
Member
I seent it boss. It's not speculation.