Sony reveals PlayStation Vue streaming service.
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Suzushiiro
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Yeah, the only people who really lose money here are the cable companies. If net neutrality doesn't happen and Vue gets big enough expect them to pull the same throttling bullshit on Sony they did to Netflix.
Suzushiiro
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It will probably be much cheaper than a cable subscription but much more expensive than a normal streaming service sub.
Of course, I'd expect streaming services to get more expensive across the board as they go from a secondary revenue source for content creators to the primary one.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
IIRC RCN uses Fiber Optics right? so I always viewed it as the better provider but it's too bad they stick to the north side of the city by Wrigley Field so I had no choice but to use Comcast over here by Midway.
I thought Comcast not having a Data Cap was universal so I count myself lucky they don't here in Chicago than.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm listening.
DOWN
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Comcast is in on this deal. NBCUniversal is their TV channels and programming.
Comcast wept and lo there was much rejoicing.
Do you realize PSNOW is not a subscription service and VUE will be? Huge difference between the 2. Plus PSNOW is using some rigged PS3 to stream the games or something while the content on VUE is like any other top box/DVR "on demand" so quality should be what its like on your set top box.
And can someone tell me how you say "VUE"? Is it Vee-You or "view"?
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Deleted member 17706
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This definitely has me interested. I especially like the lack of needing to commit to a contract.
StayGaming
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rofl another nickel and dime stream scheme from sony, looks like the pstv4 is copying xbox again..
FeenixRising
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dat post history tho....
little chance it will be 4x cheaper than Cable TV... major news had rumors it would cost $80, but they now dropped it to $60 (for all in i suppose)
I believe there will be different levels of the service.
I also wish someone else either did the same thing or bought Sony interface/system in Europe as well. Because our IPTV is nowhere as organized as this, even if we have same basic features like 3 day rewind (but only on some channels) or 3 week "record"... but they dont really organize the content at all.
Honestly I never saw anyone doing this kind of content aggregation for merging live tv + on demand. That alone will make it much more worthwhile than regular cable.
family_guy
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Unless there's no ads I would never drop Netflix.
They do in my area. As far as I can tell all these area have a cap.
Huntsville and Mobile, Alabama; Atlanta, Augusta and Savannah, Georgia; Central Kentucky; Maine; Jackson, Mississippi; Knoxville, Nashville and Memphis, Tennessee; Charleston, South Carolina; Tucson, Arizona.
quickwhips
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How many devices at once? This will be important question....
lukeskymac
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You'll last long here
CyclopsRock
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I don't really understand the purpose of the slow roll out into major cities. It doesn't sound like they have geographically specific infrastructure to install and serving up video isn't really a latency-critical service like PS Now. I understand limiting numbers because it's a test, but it seems odd to do it based on geography as per the OP, rather than simply numbers in the same way that most beta tests are conducted.
BlastProcessing
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They kinda had to. The terms the FCC required to approve the merger actually require that they offer NBC channels at a competitive price to anyone.
http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/01/18/comcast-nbc-merger-read-the-fcc-approval-letter/
serversurfer
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They need to set the local affiliates up to send live feed to the servers, so Sony can then stream it to us.
CyclopsRock
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Ah gotcha, thanks.
Same boat. Only have them for internet (they added a package I could care less for w/ HBO at SD- LMAO). Still the best price/service/speeds in my area (w/ the package) compared to the travesty that is CenturyLink DSL, formerly Embarq in my area.
This has my interest for sure. UI looks solid.
Jesus that post history... I'm sorry, when did Xbox announce this streaming service that theyre obviously being copied off of?
Schrade
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Damn... the PSTV is $79.99 at Amazon, too. Make it come to that and ... wow.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KVMHSUM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KVMHSUM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Really suprising he isn't banned already.
It's almost like an parody account "how to troll on forums".
... No. There's a difference between providing a service and building you game console around a different media entirely.
I'd love to assume the post was meant as a joke, but then his history would be like 6 out of 8 posts are just drive-by jokes that aren't very funny. Is it not even possible to be level headed about this? I mean comparing the Xbox reveal to this isn't even remotely the same thing.
Oh cool! didnt know that! Thanx.
Well, it has all the Fox sports networks (including RSNs), all the Comcast/NBC sports networks (including RSNs), and CBSSN. Only missing ESPN/Disney, and Turner Sports now for the major sports networks. I know there are regional RSNs and other lesser known ones they're seemingly missing (MSN, Bien, etc).
CBS All Access is the same. Live stuff only works in the areas where they have a local affiliate to actually provide content.
One major problem is that Fox Sports won't be able to carry NFL live, just like CBS can't stream it live.
jeff_rigby
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And their VOD servers are located in that region for that region.
I THINK Sony is set to implement four business models for IPTV, they do have GetTV in those same markets and it's a OTA Network. All models take advantage of h.265.
1) DLNA CVP2 support for Cable TV channels with Sony offering VOD movies and TV programs in addition to those offered by Cable TV. (temporarily using DVRs to convert RF to IPTV in the home) This is the transition scheme till consumers have STBs and cable develops it's infrastructure to handle all IPTV traffic (about 2017+).
2) Playstation Vue for the cable cutters in major cities with faster Internet and trunk lines that can carry the traffic.
3) OTA Media Hub ATSC 2.0 support for those not on cable and using a slower Internet service like DSL. NRT or Sideloading movies downloaded at DSL speeds for later viewing. This goes along with GetTV OTA.
4) Already implemented is PS3 DLNA RVU for Satellite with DSL or Cable Internet. (WiiU, Xbox 360 and PS3 have already done this)
This is the transition scheme till consumers have STBs and cable develops it's infrastructure to handle all IPTV traffic (about 2017+). Everyone will need a STB (game console) or Smart TV by 2017+ even OTA for ATSC 2.0 and it's predicted that there will be 240 million new internet connected VIDEO platforms by that date. This generation should never see a dropoff in sales for the game console, it should increase by about 2016.
The choice to use 8 GB in both consoles pairs up with 4 2 Meg first generation HBM modules that will drastically reduce power used in the PS4 and XB1. A 20nm XB1 SoC and PS4 APU with stacked memory should be cheaper to produce. This will happen Christmas 2015 or mid 2016 just in time to reduce the price when cable companies start encouraging their customers to purchase Vidipath STBs or Smart TVs.
Duane Cunningham
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I bet someone else in the thread has already had this idea, but...
What do you want to bet that this is how Disney/Marvel gets Spider-Man back?
What do you want to bet that this is how Disney/Marvel gets Spider-Man back?
FirmBizBws
Becomes baffled, curling up into a ball when confronted with three controller options.
I know one product I won't be buying. Video unlimited is already a scam as it is. You know those "season" passes they came out with? I purchased the season pass for SOA season 7 at the end of last month. Everything was smooth until this week, in which the latest episode wasn't marked "purchased".
So they literally want me to purchase something that I'm entitled to, because I am supposed to own it via the season pass. And its nearly been a week and I still can't play/access the content that I paid for, because they haven't fixed this issue.
I can only imagine whats going to happen with the next episode, probably the same situation.
Also, the episode wasn't even available on the store until 2 full days after it aired on TV, when it was supposed to show up the very next day.
I won't be investing in any of their video content services again, I already knew PS+ was a scam when they stopped giving out good AAA titles on a consistent basis starting with November of last year, now I'm getting the short end of the stick again.
Contacted customer support, messaged them on twitter. Basically got no answers, other than stupid "case #" and now actual real solution to a simple problem, mark the damn content as purchased in my account.
Absolutely terrible. I would have liked to give Vue a chance, but after how I've been treated with Video Unlimited? No thanks.
So they literally want me to purchase something that I'm entitled to, because I am supposed to own it via the season pass. And its nearly been a week and I still can't play/access the content that I paid for, because they haven't fixed this issue.
I can only imagine whats going to happen with the next episode, probably the same situation.
Also, the episode wasn't even available on the store until 2 full days after it aired on TV, when it was supposed to show up the very next day.
I won't be investing in any of their video content services again, I already knew PS+ was a scam when they stopped giving out good AAA titles on a consistent basis starting with November of last year, now I'm getting the short end of the stick again.
Contacted customer support, messaged them on twitter. Basically got no answers, other than stupid "case #" and now actual real solution to a simple problem, mark the damn content as purchased in my account.
Absolutely terrible. I would have liked to give Vue a chance, but after how I've been treated with Video Unlimited? No thanks.
neobiz
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I would be cool with that.
shadowsdarknes
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Playstation TV suddenly became much more relevant.
wapplew
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Unless they patch it to 1080p...
True. Any future revisions will most definitely have apart in this. I think this kind of media entertainment service will be Sony and Microsoft next big move transitioning out of gaming.
Beer Monkey
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Hmm. CBS' own service is supposed to be six or seven bucks just for them.
I just find it ironic that for a company that vehemently claims their focus is on hardcore gamers, they sure are trying hard on the TV front rather than on releasing quality exclusive games.
PS fans support it now, whereas they whined and complained about MS focusing too much on TV back when X1 was first announced.
PS fans support it now, whereas they whined and complained about MS focusing too much on TV back when X1 was first announced.
I find it funny that some people think Sony can only work on one thing at once.
rokkerkory
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TV and games together again
I havent had a datacap with Comcast for a good 4 years now. They keep upping my market's speed too. I'm at 105 and still paying what is did for a 20 Meg connection from 6 years ago
Maybe you don't know but Sony is a corporation with a humongous stable of TV and movie properties. Playstation is their one remaining brand that still holds a decent amount of weight with consumers so its not surprising that they put this service under the Playstation name. Its the same way Microsoft puts everything consumer under "Xbox".
There's nothing ironic about it. Sony has always been this slow with regards to OS updates so nothing is new. They've released a decent amount of first party content when they first released the console. They are still releasing a decent number of first party content but people just choose to dismiss it for reasons I don't understand.
The Xbox One had issues with what they did because the introduced a product that seemingly threw out everything for multimedia purposes (i.e. Kinect, weak GPU, DDR3, half assed pass through solution). Sony isn't doing this.
They can only do one thing at a time? The teams responsible for games are the same as those responsible for subscription services?
Xbone TV features were touted over gaming and the system features hardware explicitly designed around it.
You're going to have to make a better argument if you think there's something contradictory here.
They are the 2nd best at delivery 1st party titles, Nintendo being first and MS 3rd. Sony made the right choices to cater to gamers first before all else. This is very common thing actually. Normally after 1-2 years, these companies try to cater to other type of audiences such as a younger/family friendly crowd. You could see this on the later years of PS3/360 with their motion/kinect push.
Sony will no doubt try to do some TV stuff but its hyperbolic to say things like "oh wow look who is 'TVTVTV' now lulz". You must be willfully ignorant to dismiss all the quality games coming on 2015 and the things they did in for their player base. (Made sure PS4 had better GPU/RAM than competition etc)
MS's plan backfired so their "TVTVTV" at the beginning failed miserably compared to Sony and look at the dramatic changes they've made to try to stay competitive. (Dropped Kinect and dropped price a lot) No way to spin any of this imo in some negative light on Sony here. (PS: Sony bringing this new service doesnt mean 1st party titles are not being developed, we havent seen half their Dev's games)