Sony reveals PlayStation Vue streaming service.
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EdReedFan20
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I find it funny that some people hate cable because ESPN IS there. I would like to see ESPN too, but Disney would probably charge too much causing the currently unknown subscription fee to climb even higher than it is.
I'm kind of curious as to what concessions Sony had to make to get this off the ground. Seems like it was an impossible task to do with how many other companies have often (rumored) to have tried and failed at getting something like this started.
That being said, I'm curious as to how live sport events will play out on this service, CBS and NBC both have NFL games on Thursday and Sunday respectively. CBS I think still has the Final Four and I think College football games.
World Series on FOX too.
Will it be blacked out to streaming or will it be part of the package?
There's also Golf and Tennis as well (US Open, Wimbledon).
If live content is on parity with regular broadcast TV then this is a pretty big win.
Huh, Business Week article mentions this http://www.businessweek.com/article...ue-sony-brings-internet-tv-to-the-playstation :
minor addition - but if the streaming/buffering and the UI is snappy and fast it will automatically be a better experience than the sluggish set top box I have for TV.
That being said, I'm curious as to how live sport events will play out on this service, CBS and NBC both have NFL games on Thursday and Sunday respectively. CBS I think still has the Final Four and I think College football games.
World Series on FOX too.
Will it be blacked out to streaming or will it be part of the package?
There's also Golf and Tennis as well (US Open, Wimbledon).
If live content is on parity with regular broadcast TV then this is a pretty big win.
Huh, Business Week article mentions this http://www.businessweek.com/article...ue-sony-brings-internet-tv-to-the-playstation :
minor addition - but if the streaming/buffering and the UI is snappy and fast it will automatically be a better experience than the sluggish set top box I have for TV.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
This is also what I was thinking and not to mention I can easily see Sony Pictures Entertainment releasing some of exclusive content on PlayStation Vue if this kicks off.
For those curious how it might work, I wonder if it will be very similar to CBS All Access, but across many networks.
http://www.cbs.com/all-access/play/vM5hdz4mRPKRMil3rpXA2DjHvh8lPOvG/?intcid=CIAd173c11
Tons of classics and current season stuff on demand, live news and sports from the local station, and current season shows either live (like HBO Go) or next day (like CBS).
http://www.cbs.com/all-access/play/vM5hdz4mRPKRMil3rpXA2DjHvh8lPOvG/?intcid=CIAd173c11
Tons of classics and current season stuff on demand, live news and sports from the local station, and current season shows either live (like HBO Go) or next day (like CBS).
it would make sense if they would integrate movie renting from PSN into it, right?
I would guess that their PS+ show will also bee on Vue... i guess they might integrate it all somehow.
But interface looks very good right now. I do not know of any iptv (and we have many options in Europe), that integrates so well into live TV so well, and categorizes all the shows into both live, on-demand and 3/28 day recorded service.
It makes sense but nobody did it so well so far at least. I wonder if they will sell the platform in the future to local companies around the world, since i dont see them ever being able to cover more than 10 countries world wide.
SerTapTap
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This is the closest anything's come to what I always thought would/should replace cable. Honestly it's insane that "cable" and "satellite" are still these separate things from internet services
That said I barely watch any shows ever so this is still a pass from me, but it seems like a step in the right direction (which will surely be opposed at all possible ends by cable companies)
That said I barely watch any shows ever so this is still a pass from me, but it seems like a step in the right direction (which will surely be opposed at all possible ends by cable companies)
Sony Pictures is pretty huge and they already deal with all of these networks. So it was easier for them to make it happen then someone thats not inside the industry.
As to the blocking - you will be paying for CBS through subscriptions. Nothing will be blocked. This is done together with TV channels, not going around them.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
Ah yes a PS+ bonus I didn't think about that hmmm...
-Ratchet & Clank Movie free to be viewed 3 times a few days or a week early from public release to all PS+ Members.
That's what I'm picturing they can do to entice people to subscribe to PS+ so both services can have some kind of synergy.
QuantumZebra
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Yea but this is legit TV TV TV... I mean literally its TV. As opposed to watching TV through your PS4 via a cable provider.
GreyOcelot
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this depends on how you classify sony's service. the lines between cable and iptv have been blurring over the past few years. if it's classified as basically a cable service using IPTV as a way to distribute the programming, they may very well have rights to broadcast things like the superbowl live without any additional agreements, as opposed to falling under the umbrella of a streaming service like CBS will soon be offering over the net
Septimus Prime
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Interesting. It could be really sweet for me, since I don't have Netflix anyway.
But let's see how they price it.
But let's see how they price it.
SmoothRunningGun
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Does the cloud based dvr allow you to skip commercials? Also since you still need internet service the price will have to be low to compete with bundles from cable/fios.
Normal trend is people already have an internet service and multiple media devices already in use. This is just an add-on service to utilize existing investments. It's not fair to sum 100% of internet fee to this subscription fee and compare against cable provider.
sacrificengineer
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Sounds interesting.
That's the real question. How low can they go?
Probably rolling the loading of all the local networks by city on their network
Of course its fair. What is the point of jumping on a cable service with less channels if its MORE than your normal cable + internet service
I don't even understand how you can't compare them.
Well, it will cost more than Netflix for a start !!!
shacklesmcgee
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holy fuckin shit, holy fuckin shit. holy. fuckin. shit.
FOOD NETWORK?!
ahem...Food network is literally the only channel I pay for TV for. Vue damn well better work in Canada and as long as it has better pricing than the shit Bell and Rogers push, this stupid thing is so perfect it's like Sony has my house bugged
FOOD NETWORK?!
ahem...Food network is literally the only channel I pay for TV for. Vue damn well better work in Canada and as long as it has better pricing than the shit Bell and Rogers push, this stupid thing is so perfect it's like Sony has my house bugged
ESPN is owned by Disney and they rather keep that on cable.
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Neat idea, but probably not viable for me currently.
Comcast is my only decent internet option, and their service is pricey if you don't have TV. And we're in an area with a 300GB montly cap that we'd definitely go over if using it for TV as we've been close a few times with just the streaming, browsing and downloading we do without that factored in.
Comcast is my only decent internet option, and their service is pricey if you don't have TV. And we're in an area with a 300GB montly cap that we'd definitely go over if using it for TV as we've been close a few times with just the streaming, browsing and downloading we do without that factored in.
PanicFreak
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No one is taking pennies from Sony for anything. They are taking what they normally take. My guess is that Disney is using this as a way to bid up the price of ESPN for the big negotiations with Comcast, DIRECTV and DISH.
darkside31337
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Never been interested in IPTV but this is the closest I've been. Seems like it will be the best shot effort at something like this happening in the US because the other folks who have been rumored to do something along those lines haven't had many rumors lately. If there is any chance something like this takes off it'd be with this because honestly not sure who else who tries.
Hope they do a better job with this than they have been doing with Playstation Now. At least they have most of the big networks on board (with the notable exception of ABC/ESPN) which is already further along than where PS Now is right now.
The Playstation branding is really weird. I guess you really want to hitch your wagons to your most successful brand when possible but still.
Hope they do a better job with this than they have been doing with Playstation Now. At least they have most of the big networks on board (with the notable exception of ABC/ESPN) which is already further along than where PS Now is right now.
The Playstation branding is really weird. I guess you really want to hitch your wagons to your most successful brand when possible but still.
SlavetodaBOX
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The majority of cable companies in the US will limit what can be shown. I'm afraid this is doomed. Stick to the Games Sony, your starting to remind me of Microsoft.
SlavetodaBOX
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Finally a voice of reason...well said.
Isn't Hulu and Netflix shows that have already finished their seasons while this is the same as basic cable depending on what channels you get? Completely unrealistic to expect a 10$/month service for the channels that you get IMO.
I don't use the services, buy my friends found ways to get Hulu/Netflix US versions, I'd recommend sticking to that since those versions are superior.
Seeing as how these content providers all have their shows up on their website available to stream for free the day after they air, I think they'll have a hard time getting people to pony up very much money to be able to watch them as they air.
For most cord cutters watching as it airs is a bonus not a deal breaker. These people just don't consume media the way previous generations used to.
Sure cable+internet fee is ok to compare against iptv+internet fees. But the original post made an impression it was cable vs iptv+internet. Most cable owners have that same internet fee as well.Of course its fair. What is the point of jumping on a cable service with less channels if its MORE than your normal cable + internet service
SlavetodaBOX
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Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
Comcast has a dastardly cap? Over here in Chicago we don't...
I predict $30 a month
I don't think you can skip them
everyday math
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You have me attention
Wut wut?
1. how?
2. You do realize that Sony produces movies, tv shows, music, and games right? and that they've been doing television and movies before games...
We actually know how much it generally costs. While, I'll guess that Sony would need to pay more due to its smaller scale, currently cable TV operators pay around $6 just for ESPN (ESPN 2 not included). furthermore, Disney only sells the channels as bundles. So Sony would be forced to package up the other Disney owned channels (A&E, Lifetime, ABC, Bio, History, H2, Disney, etc.)Which is why cable companies are decoupling these high-priced channels like ESPN so they can offer lower tiered packages recently.
NYTimes quotes an analyst saying they expect this Vue service to cost $60 a month. But given Dish is planning their own IPTV service at $30/month, I would say that's unlikely.
Leatherface
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We're lucky in that U-verse and RCN are decent enough competitors that Comcast can't implement caps
I regularly do 4-500gb a month
ChanDangle
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If they can get all the major basic broadcast live and get the NFL network (Redzone) I'm in. ESPN would be nice but they drive a hard bargain which would drive Sony to bow out.
Dish was quoted in an investor call saying they might "offer bundleS of TV channels at $20-30 a month."
That would likely be plural.
I don't know why anyone would think any company is going to be very price competitive with cable with IPTV. Why would any network agree to undercut themselves?
You don't pay for this one, I'm guessing you know someone with a cable sub who lets you use there log in.
Yep except then the cable companies aka ISP providers will raise monthly rates or implement stringent hard caps.
Huh, didn't realize Playstation Now is already out and a colossal failure, I thought it was still in beta
Vue Cinemas are UK (EU?) only right? If they get the full SkyGo app (which is supposed to be coming) then I doubt we'll see anything like this in the UK.