Well, I didn't actually say anything about 60fps and the games you're talking about haven't even been released yet
But if you want to believe I'm purposefully trying to deceive people, go ahead
Nvidia Launches GTX 980 And GTX 970 "Maxwell" Graphics Cards ($549 & $329)
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Well, I didn't actually say anything about 60fps and the games you're talking about haven't even been released yet
But if you want to believe I'm purposefully trying to deceive people, go ahead
That's not what I implied. That was just a general remark.
piratepwnsninja
Member
So I know I asked it way early in the thread, but there weren't as many member data points for this at the time. Has anyone gone from a 680 to a 970 or 980 and felt it was worth it?
No? What are you getting? What were you expecting? :/I tried my regular 970 with Ethan Carter and wasn't like, blown away by the performance
A 970 should play that game at 60fps no problem.
Certainly didn't seem like that, but fair enough.
I'll stop hyping up the card for people who already own it, I suppose.
CyanideFuse
Member
I tried my regular 970 with Ethan Carter and wasn't like, blown away by the performance
I maxed absolutely every option out with 8xQ CSAA on my 670 (1080/60). There was only a few places where the frame rate would drop a little but I think that was an issue with the game engine that has now been patched.
It would hiccup or drop when moving more quickly through the world, and I had to turn a few settings down. I'll boot it up tonight with the 970 Gold and see how it fares, and make more detailed notes of settings.
TheLetdown
Member
I'll be coming from a 560ti as well and I'm seriously considering pulling the trigger on a 970 soonish.
Few questions: has EVGA sorted out their initial issues? Would the FTW Ref version be preferable to the Superclocked?
Does the Asus Strix still match up?
Those were the ones I was looking at mostly, as I've been a buyer of EVGA cards for a while, with super positive results. I've never had an Asus card, but tons of Asus components... again, with super positive results.
Any recommendations would be helpful!
Few questions: has EVGA sorted out their initial issues? Would the FTW Ref version be preferable to the Superclocked?
Does the Asus Strix still match up?
Those were the ones I was looking at mostly, as I've been a buyer of EVGA cards for a while, with super positive results. I've never had an Asus card, but tons of Asus components... again, with super positive results.
Any recommendations would be helpful!
I RMA'd a Strix and got an EVGA FTW. Strix had nasty buzzing at low fps. FTW has been MOSTLY free of that (I hear it on BF4 only.. weird).
Strix has a better build quality. The card is gorgeous and solid and quiet. Super quiet. EVGA has a higher base clock which I greatly appreciate. I don't really like OC'ing my GPUs via software on a regular basis.
EVGA has fixed the off center cooler with the FTW. It has a couple neat tricks like dual bios and higher boost voltage but other than that and the higher factory OC, it's just liked the SC version.
I'm not 100% sold on it being worth the extra money but like I said, I enjoy the higher factory OC.
GHG
Member
Google has lead me to a few posts like this one. So yeah, the 980s can have them too
It really sucks because I want to get one, but I have no patience for hardware lottery/RMA nonsense.
Edit: Actually that guy said the coil whine lessened with use. But I feel that if I'm spending that much money on a card, it shouldn't be an issue to begin with.
Damn it.
The more I look at it the more I become tempted by the Titan Z. Especially since its come down in price so much recently. That and the much needed extra VRAM for when I eventually get myself a 4k tv.
Someone talk me out of this madness.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Decided to make the jump for it , got myself the EVGA 970 GTX .
This should be a good upgrade from my 560TI
Yep, I bought that same EVGA card, and went from a 560Ti as well. And yes, it's a huge upgrade!
Naked Snake
Member
What are some good "demo/eye candy" games to see the best these cards can dish out? So far I heard about Metro Last Light, BF4, Ryse, Crysis 3?
How would you describe/rank the loudness of the EVGA (both fans and any buzzing) during idle and load? I'm particularly interested in how slow can you set the fans and whether you can hear the card at that setting in a quite room.
Dragon age 3 : inquisition and The Witcher 3 should be running ok with this (I hope lol)
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Well I'll tell you what, I spent all of last night trying out various games on my PC after getting my new card and monitor set up. Note I was previously on a 560Ti so I had to play lots of newer games around medium to high detail with certain options on low or off.
Still have a lot of games to try out, but out of all the games I tried, the one that honestly wowed me the most is Euro Truck Simulator 2. I didn't expect that, but the game cranked to max on 1920x1080p is simply awesome looking. And it's so fluid and smooth, even my TrackIR feels better as looking around is super smooth now. The truck mirrors are so incredibly useful now, LOL. Skyrim cranked up looked fantastic too, as was Dark Souls.
I don't really have too many truly "new" games that are super graphics beasts to test it with, my soon to be free Far Cry 4 will probably be the largest test. That and Elite Dangerous in a month. And I'm hoping to buy Shadows of Mordor at the steam winter sale. But it sure is nice being able to put all of my games to max settings without even flinching for now.
The Bookerman
Member
Congrats, it is indded a huge upgrade!Decided to make the jump for it , got myself the EVGA 970 GTX .
This should be a good upgrade from my 560TI
Naked Snake
Member
I'm assuming that during idle/2D mode, a factory overclocked card would consume more power and run hotter than a lower clocked identical card, right? Or would the power and temp difference be negligible due to the cards basically having very little work do?
My wallet just flinched. This will probably be the first steam sale I participate in. Is that the biggest sale of the year that destroys gamers' wallets around the world? I've been watching it from the side lines all those years. Better start saving.
My wallet just flinched. This will probably be the first steam sale I participate in. Is that the biggest sale of the year that destroys gamers' wallets around the world? I've been watching it from the side lines all those years. Better start saving.
The FTW had the new bios that has the fans not running on idle so at idle, both cards were equally quiet. Both cards ramped up the fans very slowly too. Asus never got above 40% in my testing. EVGA got up to 50% a few times to keep it from going over 75C.
The Asus was quieter overall but the EVGA is very quiet too (post BIOS update apparently). My case is overall pretty quiet and it was hard to hear the GPU fans over my case fans for either card.
A factory OC will only consume more power if that much power is needed. All the maxwell cards downclock. CS:GO never goes much over 1000mhz core for either of my cards.
Steam sale can get VERY expensive. It should be a great time picking up all those good games from the last year for <$10 each for you
Naked Snake
Member
Thanks for the answers garath.
I wonder if it will be possible to flash a modified bios to the other EVGA cards to make the fans not run on idle.
I wonder if it will be possible to flash a modified bios to the other EVGA cards to make the fans not run on idle.
Definitely can.
TheLetdown
Member
Thanks, garath! I'm also pretty reserved when it comes to overclocking graphics cards, despite the fact that I usually gravitate toward semi-budget cards with great overclock abilities. I think part of the reason why I want to go for the Asus card was that it would be a break in a line of EVGA cards. Then again, if it ain't broke...
The Summer Sale is the "bigger" sale, but the Winter Sale is always great, in terms of sale prices and solid games offered. Keep an eye out for the "diamond in the rough" threads that come out around those times. I've jumped on more than I'd like to admit of those recommendations, but I've yet to be steered wrong.
The Summer Sale is the "bigger" sale, but the Winter Sale is always great, in terms of sale prices and solid games offered. Keep an eye out for the "diamond in the rough" threads that come out around those times. I've jumped on more than I'd like to admit of those recommendations, but I've yet to be steered wrong.
Naked Snake
Member
Hmm! That makes me a lot more interested in picking up one, because the vanilla EVGA ACX2 and the Superclocked variant are supposed to come in stock tomorrow at my local retailer (with about $25 difference in price).
Just looked at the EVGA forum thread about the bios update for these cards, there's some reports of users have issues after the update... need to look more into it.
Edit: Is it true that cards that use 2x 6-Pin connectors (e.g. EVGA, Zotac) have lower max power draw capability than ones that use 6+8-pin connectors (e.g. MSI, Gigabyte)? Would that have a real-world effect on overlocking potential or not really?
opticalmace
Member
IMHO no.
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
My EVGA superclocked 970 has 2x 6pin power connections. Haven't tried to overclock it and don't really care to, it runs cool and quiet and powerful the way it is and I don't want to risk ruining that.
Naked Snake
Member
When you get more demanding games in the future you might be tempted to.
SliChillax
Member
I'm having some crashesh with Metro 2033 Redux, never had any problems before with my 680. I also did a fresh install of Windows before putting the 970 for various reasons. I tried not overclocking the card, tried tons of things really but it still crashes saying that the driver has crashed and recovered.
HardwareCanucks just did a nice article comparing various top-tier graphics cards and their coil while levels.
Might be handy for those looking for additional data to fuel their decision on what card to buy.
Might be handy for those looking for additional data to fuel their decision on what card to buy.
Ok guys, first Fire Strike benchmark in progress with MSI 970 Gold edition. So far no coil whine and I feel even less heat output than with the regular MSI 970.
Will update with results...
Ok, here they are. No manual OC applied yet, this is right out of the box.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4718525?
Run 2, OC'd:
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4718734?
3rd run after doing some gaming earlier.
Core clock 1,279 MHz
Memory bus clock 1,819 MHz
Graphics Score 12752
Overall 9567
How much more should I push it? Or should I stop while I'm ahead lol? No artifacting and highest temp has been 75C.
Will update with results...
Ok, here they are. No manual OC applied yet, this is right out of the box.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4718525?
Run 2, OC'd:
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4718734?
3rd run after doing some gaming earlier.
Core clock 1,279 MHz
Memory bus clock 1,819 MHz
Graphics Score 12752
Overall 9567
How much more should I push it? Or should I stop while I'm ahead lol? No artifacting and highest temp has been 75C.
Ok guys, first Fire Strike benchmark in progress with MSI 970 Gold edition. So far no coil whine and I feel even less heat output than with the regular MSI 970.
Will update with results...
Ok, here they are. No manual OC applied yet, this is right out of the box.
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4718525?
Run 2, OC'd:
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/4718734?
3rd run after doing some gaming earlier.
Core clock 1,279 MHz
Memory bus clock 1,819 MHz
Graphics Score 12752
Overall 9567
How much more should I push it? Or should I stop while I'm ahead lol? No artifacting and highest temp has been 75C.
My MSI Gaming reaches an core clock of 1450 without issues.
My GTX 980 arrived today. I think it would be a not so bad idea to test it, before I put the water block on it. Unfortunately my current two GTX 680 with water blocks on it are in the way and I would have redo my tubing before can get the new card in. Of course to would be double the work as I have to redo it anyway when I gave put on the water block.
Best option I think is remove one of the gtx 680, redo the tubing and put the 980 on the other slot to see if it is working correctly. Then put on the water block and hope the tubing for the 680 fits the 980. Which I think it should from the placement of the fittings.
Ah well it has to wait anyway until tomorrow as I need my computer today as I have on-call duty until tomorrow morning. Would have been nice to have the GTX 980 ready for water by then.
Best option I think is remove one of the gtx 680, redo the tubing and put the 980 on the other slot to see if it is working correctly. Then put on the water block and hope the tubing for the 680 fits the 980. Which I think it should from the placement of the fittings.
Ah well it has to wait anyway until tomorrow as I need my computer today as I have on-call duty until tomorrow morning. Would have been nice to have the GTX 980 ready for water by then.
Hm, my card seems to throttle down automatically after I set it to Core clock 1,381 MHz and mem clock 1866 in Fire Strike. I got a score of around 9700 total but it seems like I can't push the core clock much more without it crashing during the first scene in Fire Strike.
I think maybe I'm confused. The numbers I was posting above are pulled directly from the Fire Strike benchmark page. When I look in Nvidia Inspector, though, I see "Boost" at 1410. Is that the 1450 you were referring to?
I see
GPU Clock 1270
Default clock 1140
And then over on the right I see
Est. Max 1485
Boost 1410
Boost 1278
What does it all meeeaaan?
Upped MSI 970's core clock to 1314MHz in nvidia inspector and didn't notice any problems (artifacting or higher temperatures or anything) with the fire strike benchmark so I guess I could just leave it at that. I've never before overclocked anything so this is kind of anticlimactic lol.
Ugh. Played civilization 5 last night and it started getting jittery. Saw my temp hit 95C. Immediately opened my case (it was hot in there) and saw that, once again, that red fan wasn't working. Had to nudge it and get it going and it shot the temp back down to 50C.
This has to go back. It has 3 year warranty on it so I think I'm going to hang on for a bit until they work out this kink and then RMA it. Sucks.
Any idea if MSI cross ships? I don't want to be without it for too long.
I'd return to amazon but they don't have any in stock and I worry that the ones they'll get will still have the problem.
This has to go back. It has 3 year warranty on it so I think I'm going to hang on for a bit until they work out this kink and then RMA it. Sucks.
Any idea if MSI cross ships? I don't want to be without it for too long.
I'd return to amazon but they don't have any in stock and I worry that the ones they'll get will still have the problem.
ab.aeterno
Member
Ordered two MSI 970 Gaming cards to replace my two 7970 GEs.
Amazon finally has a date and is prepping them for shipment, so I want to get some feedback while I still have time to cancel.
I'm pretty concerned about the lack of a backplate as it relates to card sag. My 7970s also don't have backplates, and there's very noticeable sag on the freestanding edge, particularly in the corner farthest from the motherboard. It seems like a backplate would help prevent that asymmetrical sagging and give the card rigidity.
But is it worth the extra $40 to bump up and get Gigabyte G1s? I'm not sure.
tl;dr are backplates that big a deal?
Amazon finally has a date and is prepping them for shipment, so I want to get some feedback while I still have time to cancel.
I'm pretty concerned about the lack of a backplate as it relates to card sag. My 7970s also don't have backplates, and there's very noticeable sag on the freestanding edge, particularly in the corner farthest from the motherboard. It seems like a backplate would help prevent that asymmetrical sagging and give the card rigidity.
But is it worth the extra $40 to bump up and get Gigabyte G1s? I'm not sure.
tl;dr are backplates that big a deal?
I just talked to Nvidia live chat, they told me that the free game promotion is not available in my country and that its up to retailers to pick up the deal, which is kinda hard if you don't make it available for them to offer... unless you want to tell me not even one retail store was interested enough to pick on this deal
Asked her if she couldn't help in any way, told me they don't offer codes directly to customers
Part of me really wants to say fuck you Nvidia and buy an AMD card, but this 970 seems too freaking good
Asked her if she couldn't help in any way, told me they don't offer codes directly to customers
Part of me really wants to say fuck you Nvidia and buy an AMD card, but this 970 seems too freaking good
Isn't sag a result of the PCI-Express ports rather than cards ?
ab.aeterno
Member
I'm not sure, to be honest.
razgriz417
Member
Picked up my MSI 970 gaming today from microcenter. I'm guessing this result is pretty standard for stock settings on both the 970 and my i5-2500k
What is everyone using for OCing? Just MSI afterburner? Any recommendations on programs to track temps? Haven't oc'd a card in a while
Also, gotta say i can't believe how quiet this card is in comparison to my old zotac 580 1.5gb (reference cooler). Knock on wood, no coil whine so far I think, though I dont have any game that really taxes the card right now. Preloading fc4 so hopefully I can put it through its paces come Tuesday
What is everyone using for OCing? Just MSI afterburner? Any recommendations on programs to track temps? Haven't oc'd a card in a while
Also, gotta say i can't believe how quiet this card is in comparison to my old zotac 580 1.5gb (reference cooler). Knock on wood, no coil whine so far I think, though I dont have any game that really taxes the card right now. Preloading fc4 so hopefully I can put it through its paces come Tuesday
Glitchesarecool
Member
Thinking about putting this on a Christmas list or just saving up for a not-so-rainy day. Been hearing good things on power consumption, I've got a GTX 660 right now. Is it about comparable for the power supply needs?
could anyone give me a hand with overclocking an Asus Strix 970? I have afterburner, and found this: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_970_STRIX_OC/28.html
but am still not sure what to do. Also Assasin's creed looks insane with this card.
but am still not sure what to do. Also Assasin's creed looks insane with this card.
I always use MSI Afterburner. Itll track temps as well as monitor pretty much everything youll need and even let you throw it on the on screen display. Nifty little program.
Stock evga SC acx 2.0 GTX 970 with fx8320 CPU @ 3.8 I'm getting a firestrike score of 8260. Is this around the range I should be getting? I'm loving the performance I'm getting now from this card (had a 270x) got games like BF4 running at 70-90+ fps @ 1080p all max and Shadow of Mordor at around 70-80 fps with few random dips to 60.
So I'm happy with it now but I'm wondering if that firestrike score is correct with my CPU and GPU combo.
So I'm happy with it now but I'm wondering if that firestrike score is correct with my CPU and GPU combo.
Ordered my 970 on Nov. 3 from Amazon so was pretty peeved i missed the Pick Your Path Promo by 1 day. So i emailed Amazon about it at first they said i would get a code in about a week but it didn't happen so i emailed them again, this is the options they gave me.
Option1 : If you're interested in keeping the item. I'd like to offer you a refund of $69.8, which is 20 % off the price. To accept this refund, let us know and we'll issue the refund to your Credit Card.
Option 2 : If you'd prefer to return the "Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Overclocked 4GB GDDR5 PCiE Video Graphics Card GV-N970WF3OC-4GD"
for a full refund, please visit our Online Returns Center:
Pretty easy choice.
Option1 : If you're interested in keeping the item. I'd like to offer you a refund of $69.8, which is 20 % off the price. To accept this refund, let us know and we'll issue the refund to your Credit Card.
Option 2 : If you'd prefer to return the "Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 Overclocked 4GB GDDR5 PCiE Video Graphics Card GV-N970WF3OC-4GD"
for a full refund, please visit our Online Returns Center:
Pretty easy choice.
Guy LeDouche
Banned
I'm upgrading from a EVGA 560ti to a ASUS Strix 970. I went to nvidia's site to get the latest drivers for the 970 and then checked my current drivers in Geforce Experience and they are the same. With GE, do I need to still uninstall and reinstall when I get to the process of actually swapping the cards or can I just power down, swap the cards, and reboot?
Finished putting my new 980 in.
I am glad that I choose to buy the backplate as well. Looks very slick.
No the best picture as it also still wet after cleaning it.
I put some strip pics in thumb nails below.
GPU clock out of the box is 1404 MHz and max temp with Boinc running and playing The Secret World is 35 C.
I am glad that I choose to buy the backplate as well. Looks very slick.
No the best picture as it also still wet after cleaning it.
I put some strip pics in thumb nails below.
GPU clock out of the box is 1404 MHz and max temp with Boinc running and playing The Secret World is 35 C.
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