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Thank God a giant corporation loves me: Marvel Studios edition

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A case of not taking oneself so seriously, more like it. This is one of the best artistic decisions they've made. A genuine moment of fresh creativity and fun in movies that so often don't go beyond superficial one liners for the laughs. It also strengthened the hints of political subtext which would have been completely banal without this twist.
 
I'm 37 and when I was a kid I would have never have dreamed of a time when there were Marvel movies being made that had a connected continuity, legitimately great actors and faithfulness to the source material. I think it's hard for a lot of younger people to appreciate this. Living in the 80s-the concept of Marvel Studios and the Marvel Cinematic Universe would seem impossible, and now it's not only a reality but a highly successful one at that.

Agreed.

Also, people saying Guardians and Iron Man were the only "good" Marvel films are insane. I guess no one saw Winter Soldier (my personal favorite).
 
I only really dislike both Thor movies and Iron Man 3, the rest is pretty good/okay. They have only made one truly great movie though and that's the first Iron Man. That said, they are easily the best popcorn flicks out there right now.

I don't get why Iron Man 1 is supposedly so much better than all the rest of them, especially with Winter Soldier and GotG
 
While i do enjoy the movies, i don't like this trend of other studios doing the same shit but with lower quality. But i don't think that Marvel can keep the above average quality, the process of making a film is so fucked up these days.
 
As someone who appreciates a good villain, Marvel falls a bit flat for me in this area. I find it pretty much impossible to get really hyped about anything comic related, unless the villain is solid. I'm hoping Ultron breaks the trend, but so far Marvel movies have been absolutely dreadful in giving me memorable villains. I was really looking forward to Winter Soldier in this regard, but he didn't really feel like a developed character to me. Even though it has a completely unmemorable villain, I loved Guardians though.
 
As someone who appreciates a good villain, Marvel falls a bit flat for me in this area. I find it pretty much impossible to get really hyped about anything comic related, unless the villain is solid. I'm hoping Ultron breaks the trend, but so far Marvel movies have been absolutely dreadful in giving me memorable villains. I was really looking forward to Winter Soldier in this regard, but he didn't really feel like a developed character to me. Even though it has a completely unmemorable villain, I loved Guardians though.

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That's one of the biggest keys for me. There has NEVER been 20 movies (so far) with this level of continuity and world building shared between them. It has never happened. Maybe there were some old school serials with that number of movies focusing on the same character... Tarzan or whoever. James Bond, kinda, (not really). but never completely separate ensembles and story lines all weaved together into such a huge tapestry like this.

It's really cool to see it. And they're doing it just right, too... if you DON'T know or catch all the little connections, it doesn't detract from your casual enjoyment of a fun action movie. All you have to know is that Hulk smashes stuff, Tony Stark is funny and cool and has crazy advanced tech, etc, and... let the mayhem begin. But if you ARE into keeping track of how the whole MCU landscape pans out, tv shows included and everything, there's plenty to enjoy on that level too.

and the beauty is, these are the exact strengths of Marvel comics, even back in the early 60's. When Stan was writing everything and there were only two or three artists, the continuity between the original books was a big part of what made them such a hit.

It's really cool to see the MCU doing something completely new, AND they're such fun movies. The worst MCU movies are fun, and the best ones like GotG are easily just as good as the 80's adventure greats like Indiana Jones, Goonies, Time Bandits, Romancing the Stone and so forth.

Born in 86 so I can't comment too much about growing up w/ them in the 80s and wanting this but I love the MCU. It's great what Marvel has done. Have I loved every movie? Nope, thought everyone was great? Nope. But I don't think any of them have been just bad. Really really happy with Marvel.
 
As someone who appreciates a good villain, Marvel falls a bit flat for me in this area. I find it pretty much impossible to get really hyped about anything comic related, unless the villain is solid. I'm hoping Ultron breaks the trend, but so far Marvel movies have been absolutely dreadful in giving me memorable villains. I was really looking forward to Winter Soldier in this regard, but he didn't really feel like a developed character to me. Even though it has a completely unmemorable villain, I loved Guardians though.

Winter Soldier spoiler:
Winter Soldier wasn't the main villain though, Alexander Pierce and Hydra were
 
I enjoy the Marvel movies. Even though I'm not a big comic book buff. That said. Some of these movies go into Power Rangers mode a bit too often with the ridiculously dumb looking costumes, card board cut out "normal" people and hooky bad guys.
 
Exactly how I feel. The Thor movies especially are horrible, but I'm not a massive comic fan so eh.

Marvel's problem is the continuity, like the comic-books, is too much to handle. So everyone has to shrug about no-one helping out Stark in Iron Man 3 (and that scene with Banner makes it even more ridiculous), not helping Thor out in Thor: TDW (made stupider by Captain America working for Shield who, ya know, deal with this shit) and Cap A being a fugitive in CA: TWS and yet Hawkeye, a fucking Shield Agent, isn't even mentioned.

Throw in The Other saying Thanos is going to fuck Loki up... and then a year later Loki is safe and sound on Asgard... and it's crawling up it's own ass in how they can't handle the weight.

So thank God for GOTG and James Gunn, which has minor connections to the MCU and otherwise ignores it completely. Until they decide to have Iron Man join the team and... sigh.
 
Yeah as much as I love Guardians, Ronan was wasted. His motivations are clear (some people claim otherwise but they blow like 2 straight minutes of exposition on why he does what he does), yet he lacks a certain... Something. They tried to ground it to the Guardians with the stuff with Drax's family and for some reason it didn't really pan out into anything interesting.

I hope Ronan has a resurrection on the way.

He lacks depth that's for sure. In the comics Ronan is just following his principles and will fight with or against heroes depending on the context of the conflict. In the movie he's just a cartoon villain lacking any depth to his character.

I feel only Loki has been a quality villain so far. And I guess Hydra as a whole too, rather than an individual character. Hopefully Ultron turns out good.
 
Yeah as much as I love Guardians, Ronan was wasted. His motivations are clear (some people claim otherwise but they blow like 2 straight minutes of exposition on why he does what he does), yet he lacks a certain... Something.

Character development?
 
I really wish DC had Marvel's level of trust and quality control, because I think they have the better universe of the two. And I am starting to feel that Marvel movies are getting monotonous with how each movie is strictly formula that adjusts only superficially for each new hero.

But Marvel has brought not just superheroes, but a superhero universe to the big screen that is unprecedented, and no one can take that from them.
 
People look for too much in certain types of films, there are going to be plot holes due to how big the universe is but by and large has been a fantastic journey.

For those who say they have created more bad films than good (which is arguable I cannot deny that) ask yourself this. Would you rather hadnt attempted to bring our beloved comic book hero's to the big screen?
 
As someone who appreciates a good villain, Marvel falls a bit flat for me in this area. I find it pretty much impossible to get really hyped about anything comic related, unless the villain is solid. I'm hoping Ultron breaks the trend, but so far Marvel movies have been absolutely dreadful in giving me memorable villains. I was really looking forward to Winter Soldier in this regard, but he didn't really feel like a developed character to me. Even though it has a completely unmemorable villain, I loved Guardians though.

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This guy was fantastic.
 
I know I am going to come off as a huge fanboy but seriously, I freaking love Marvel Studios and most of their output. I love that they don't seem to be ashamed of the source material and that they frequently embrace the inherent campiness of comic books. I love that they seem to be the only ones keeping the 80s action movie style (humor, drama and action in equal measure) alive. I love that they are building a huge cinematic universe with multiple heroes and that they are expanding it with every movie. I love their excellent casting choices. And I really love that they are not afraid to throw their lesser known heroes into the ring.

I knew nothing about the Guardians of the Galaxy before entering the theater. I knew Rocket Raccoon from Marvel vs Capcom but I always thought that he was a Capcom character. Yes, really. I went to see the movie because it was a Marvel Studios production and I had faith that it would be something I would have fun watching. As soon as the title sequence started, with the music and all, I immediately thought "sold, this is going to be great". And it was! It so was. I now can't wait for Guardians of the Galaxy 2, I love Quill and Rocket and Drax and everybody. And there are so many movies still to come!

So, yeah. It's a great time for us comic book fans, let's enjoy it for as long as it lasts.
Marvel doesn't really embrace it, more like skirt around it with self-referential witty humor. DC TV shows embrace it with all its glory.
Also Rocky was on Marvel's side in the character selection screen! :P

What have you done?!
Seriously, like a bat-signal for the haters.

This is an abhorrent thread.

Who's joking? What is this shit.
Like clockwork.

Just speaks to your intelligence if you're a fan of mindless marvel movies
Please, go on.
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Iron Man is overrated. Iron Man 3 is underrated. But yeah, MCU is pretty cool.
*brofist*

At last it finally has its own thread
<3

Like what you want,I don't care, people also like Taylor swift and Britney spears and I don't lose sleep over it
You care plenty, you are posting here and insulting people.

Coming from a James Bond superfan, this is pretty hilarious.
Not really, Bond movies are far from consistent.

That was actually an example of trolling the fans and getting away with it, because it was brilliant.

I'm not so sure the first Iron Man is as perfect as the "Iron Man is the (best / only good) MCU movie" people think it is.
It's not, but people cling to it because it seems like it's the only one they saw or something.

That high ground.

And why is Ken Masters squeezing the bitter berry today?
lol

I know I'm super excited for Aquaman and Cyborg movies!
Don't remind me, it should have been a Static or Teen Titans movie :(
yes, I know of the rumours of the Titans series, still.

I loved IM3 for exactly the reasons the OP describes. It felt exactly like an 80's action movie with some Marvel stuff in it. At that point we already had 3 movies filled with full-on Stark in his suit action scenes, so I was really into them scaling things back and spending most of the film with Tony running around cobbling together broken bits of suits.

Even the Mandarin stuff was great. The real Mandarin is still out there, so it isn't the cancer fanboys claim.

It's my favorite of the three. Not as good as this year's releases though.
Well, it's a Shane Black film :P
And I agree with what you said, except that I liked it the same as TWS.

A case of not taking oneself so seriously, more like it. This is one of the best artistic decisions they've made. A genuine moment of fresh creativity and fun in movies that so often don't go beyond superficial one liners for the laughs. It also strengthened the hints of political subtext which would have been completely banal without this twist.
This.

Disgusting.

I can't remember the last time we've had such a huge fan base in films on Gaf. Nolan was probably equal after TDK.

I mean... "thank God"??
Yes, praise be Feige and Nolan for bringing the comic book movies back into relevance.
 
I know I am going to come off as a huge fanboy but seriously, I freaking love Marvel Studios and most of their output. I love that they don't seem to be ashamed of the source material and that they frequently embrace the inherent campiness of comic books. I love that they seem to be the only ones keeping the 80s action movie style (humor, drama and action in equal measure) alive. I love that they are building a huge cinematic universe with multiple heroes and that they are expanding it with every movie. I love their excellent casting choices. And I really love that they are not afraid to throw their lesser known heroes into the ring.

I knew nothing about the Guardians of the Galaxy before entering the theater. I knew Rocket Raccoon from Marvel vs Capcom but I always thought that he was a Capcom character. Yes, really. I went to see the movie because it was a Marvel Studios production and I had faith that it would be something I would have fun watching. As soon as the title sequence started, with the music and all, I immediately thought "sold, this is going to be great". And it was! It so was. I now can't wait for Guardians of the Galaxy 2, I love Quill and Rocket and Drax and everybody. And there are so many movies still to come!

So, yeah. It's a great time for us comic book fans, let's enjoy it for as long as it lasts.

The only reason Marvel isn't "afraid to throw their lesser known heroes into the ring" is because that is what they have licenses to, their lesser known heroes.

Do you believe that if Marvel had the licenses to Spiderman, X-men and The Fantastic Four, they would have spent so much time developing Thor with 2 movies and the lesser known till now Guardians of the Galaxy. The answer is no. We would be on two year rotations of Avenger, Ironman, X-men, Wolverine, FF and Spiderman movies.

So for all the people that like Marvel studios now, pray they don't get any of the big licenses back.
 
Yes, praise be Feige and Nolan for bringing the comic book movies back into relevance.

We should all praise Norrington. The guy had one of the dumbest comic-book characters, and made a film so awesome that it got a trilogy and the tone is still one used today. He didn't even give Blade an origin, he showed up fully-formed and had no character development whatsoever over three films... and it was still a damn good trilogy.
 
They make great trailers and hype, but often I end up feeling so lukewarm about what I'm watching. The iron man movies have all been bland, and the Thor films also. Cap was pretty crappy. Guardians was fun and Cap 2 was also decent, but everything else has been the definition of mediocre.
 
They're okay, but some of the really huge fans seem really pretentious.

This is how I feel with the people who are extremely vocal about their dislike of all the films.

Also, do people not read the OP? He said he loves Marvel studios, not that they love him. Stop reading titles changed by mods and read the post for once.
 
Purple tin foil guy has done literally nothing other than look like a terribly cheap special effect from the 90's with the most laughable setting (a throne? Seriously?) Absolutely the worst part of GotG

Thanos is fucking awful.

His film track record so far? He sent Loki to Earth (maybe with an Infinity Gem scepter) to steal back another Infinity Gem. FAILED. He used his second in command to threaten Loki with death if Loki failed: HASN'T TRIED TO KILL LOKI in a year. He tried using Ronan to steal an Infinity Gem: RONAN TOLD THANOS TO PISS OFF AND ONE-SHOT KILLED THANOS'S LACKEY.

I mean he's 0-3 in terms of his goals so far.

Which... if you know the comics, you can go 'eh, it's set-up.' But even then it's awful set-up because to the general public he's a Hellboy looking goon (after The Avengers, six people have asked me what Hellboy was doing in a Marvel film) who has a worse win ratio in the 10s than Sonic does.

And he looks PS1 quality effects wise. Not to mention the "alleged" indiscretions that the guy playing him has "allegedly" been "alleged" to have done.
 
Love Marvel as well but if there is one thing I don't like is that their movies always suffer from "Everything is going to be alright no matter what".
 
Guardians of the Galaxy was an experiment. One that was thankfully successful, but it wasn't revolutionary or characteristic of their other work. It was probably the first time they actually captured the feeling of reading a decent short comic book arc, and not watching an action movie made about a comic book character. For all it's flaws, it got the attitude right. They were always capable of doing something like this, but it took a long string of arguably boring action movies to finally remember the "comic" part of the comic book movie.
 
The only reason Marvel isn't "afraid to throw their lesser known heroes into the ring" is because that is what they have licenses to, their lesser known heroes.

Do you believe that if Marvel had the licenses to Spiderman, X-men and The Fantastic Four, they would have spent so much time developing Thor with 2 movies and the lesser known till now Guardians of the Galaxy. The answer is no. We would be on two year rotations of Avenger, Ironman, X-men, Wolverine, FF and Spiderman movies.

So for all the people that like Marvel studios now, pray they don't get any of the big licenses back.
I really dislike these cynical kinds of answers. Unless you are a able to travel to parallel dimensions, you don't know that for sure, for one. I mean, I seriously doubt that they didn't have a single property more well known than Guardians of the Galaxy. Black Widow and Hawketye alone has more fame just because of their appearances in the Marvel Universe before. If they were going off PURELY in order of most well known properties, we'd have gotten Captain America and Hulk before we got Iron man.

Look, I don't deny that they are out to make money. They are a business. But they are a business where that makes its money off creative expression and they show FAR less meddling in that process than most other movie studios. And they should be commended for that.
 
Thanos is fucking awful.

His film track record so far? He sent Loki to Earth (maybe with an Infinity Gem scepter) to steal back another Infinity Gem. FAILED. He used his second in command to threaten Loki with death if Loki failed: HASN'T TRIED TO KILL LOKI in a year. He tried using Ronan to steal an Infinity Gem: RONAN TOLD THANOS TO PISS OFF AND ONE-SHOT KILLED THANOS'S LACKEY.

I mean he's 0-3 in terms of his goals so far.

Which... if you know the comics, you can go 'eh, it's set-up.' But even then it's awful set-up because to the general public he's a Hellboy looking goon (after The Avengers, six people have asked me what Hellboy was doing in a Marvel film) who has a worse win ratio in the 10s than Sonic does.

And he looks PS1 quality effects wise. Not to mention the "alleged" indiscretions that the guy playing him has "allegedly" been "alleged" to have done.


Well, Thanos has this poster hanging up on the back of his throne:

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Thread title is missing "Stumpokapow presents:"

Marvel's problem is the continuity, like the comic-books, is too much to handle. So everyone has to shrug about no-one helping out Stark in Iron Man 3 (and that scene with Banner makes it even more ridiculous), not helping Thor out in Thor: TDW (made stupider by Captain America working for Shield who, ya know, deal with this shit) and Cap A being a fugitive in CA: TWS and yet Hawkeye, a fucking Shield Agent, isn't even mentioned.

Throw in The Other saying Thanos is going to fuck Loki up... and then a year later Loki is safe and sound on Asgard... and it's crawling up it's own ass in how they can't handle the weight.

So thank God for GOTG and James Gunn, which has minor connections to the MCU and otherwise ignores it completely. Until they decide to have Iron Man join the team and... sigh.
All those are explained in universe, and in any case they are going to happen less frequently going by what they are planning for Phase 3.

We should all praise Norrington. The guy had one of the dumbest comic-book characters, and made a film so awesome that it got a trilogy and the tone is still one used today. He didn't even give Blade an origin, he showed up fully-formed and had no character development whatsoever over three films... and it was still a damn good trilogy.
Blade 1 and 2 are cult movies more than anything, so even if I enjoyed them, had the following movies been like it nothing like is happening now would have.
There is no Blade 3

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Thanos is fucking awful.

His film track record so far? He sent Loki to Earth (maybe with an Infinity Gem scepter) to steal back another Infinity Gem. FAILED. He used his second in command to threaten Loki with death if Loki failed: HASN'T TRIED TO KILL LOKI in a year. He tried using Ronan to steal an Infinity Gem: RONAN TOLD THANOS TO PISS OFF AND ONE-SHOT KILLED THANOS'S LACKEY.
Of course he hasn't tried to kill Loki in a year, he's imprisoned in Asgard
as far as Thanos knows
and he obviously wouldn't want to go to war against Asgard.
 
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