343 addresses ongoing Halo MCC Matchmaking issues
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Halo unlike those games are the very face of their company. Driveclb and BF could never be fixed and it wouldn't matter. This is Halo we are talking about though
Reach was the last straw for me. Boringly bad game. I skipped H4 because of Reach. It never reached my expectations as a halo game.
I bought MCC and was blown away by H4 SP campaign.
ebullientprism
Member
IISANDERII
Member
Even the goddamn Destiny ALPHA was a thousand times smoother than this, nevermind the Beta. I don't know how 343i allowed themselves to be less functional with their gold release on a single platform.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
I'm not sure I quite understand what's going on. Are the matchmaking issues preventing people from playing online, or just fucking up the online experience once you're in a game?
Either way, sucks for you Halo fans. I know I was bummed when Battlefield 4 launched with all sorts of bugs (and waiting for weeks to get fixes was shit). Between this and DriveClub, there have got to be a lot of (rightfully) angry gamers out there right now.
Either way, sucks for you Halo fans. I know I was bummed when Battlefield 4 launched with all sorts of bugs (and waiting for weeks to get fixes was shit). Between this and DriveClub, there have got to be a lot of (rightfully) angry gamers out there right now.
7DollarHagane
Banned
Kind of both. You can usually find one match fairly smoothly the first time you start up yelour system, after that its a crap shoot taking from 10minutes to an hour to connect.
Frequently the game will place uneven teams or crash other players to he home screen while loading or crash at the end of a match.
Diablohead
Member
Matchmaking can either take 10 seconds or over an hour, half of the hoppers were removed to raise user counts in the ones left active, being matched up doesn't mean you will get a match, it will be lob sided teams, the game has a habbit of crashing while loading a MP map, countless problems.
Before last weeks patch the host could kick users in matchmade ranked games from the scoreboard.
This is just the MP side of things, for the single player checkpoint saves are broken in halo 1 and 2, co-op online is sub 30fps for the connecting partner, halo 2 anniversary co-op can desync badly, sometimes the sound will disappear for up to a minute before magically returning again, pausing the game can sometimes softlock because it disables menu inputs, watching a terminal video loads up the halo channel app external to the game itself causing problems or not working.
Halo 4 will randomly get some kind of unable to load error playing between chapters, an error which completely locks the game on a black screen with orange console font.
There's more but that's the rough idea of what's wrong.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Geez, sounds like the game needed more time in the oven. Of course that could be said about plenty of games coming out lately (I'm looking at you, Ubisoft).
Hopefully they iron this out soon for you guys. Spending money on something broken absolutely sucks.
BF4 didn't have issues with basic functionality such as joining games, finding servers, etc. It only had performance issues. This is from my experience.
MCC is an entirely different story. You can't even find a game.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Your experience differs from mine and probably most others. There were no 64 player matches to be found on BF4 at launch. I also had difficulties getting matches, and the single player kept erasing any saved progress, so it was pointless to do. It was a huge mess, and a game I also should've returned at the time.
akidnamededdy
Banned
My friend's dog died on Friday. He is super bummed about it. Not really talking to anybody or going out.
I messaged him yesterday about playing some Halo. We both got MCC at launch but have had zero luck actually playing together (and maybe played a handful of matches each on our own) but neither of us had touched it since the update, so I thought maybe we could do SOMETHING.
Got a reply. "Halo would be good. 9:00."
Well alright, that's something!
His name never showed up in my roster, even though he was online and we were in a party chat. He wasn't talking much. We tried for 45 minutes doing all the tricks we've read online to get into matchmaking.
Nothing worked. Zero matches were played. Finally, a sigh from his end.
"Forget it. Fucking worthless..." and then disconnected.
343, you need to fix this. Bring my friend's dog back to life.
I messaged him yesterday about playing some Halo. We both got MCC at launch but have had zero luck actually playing together (and maybe played a handful of matches each on our own) but neither of us had touched it since the update, so I thought maybe we could do SOMETHING.
Got a reply. "Halo would be good. 9:00."
Well alright, that's something!
His name never showed up in my roster, even though he was online and we were in a party chat. He wasn't talking much. We tried for 45 minutes doing all the tricks we've read online to get into matchmaking.
Nothing worked. Zero matches were played. Finally, a sigh from his end.
"Forget it. Fucking worthless..." and then disconnected.
343, you need to fix this. Bring my friend's dog back to life.
Diablohead
Member
I just submitted my return notice to shopto, hopefully I can get a full refund for a game which should not be sold in such a state.
I gave 343/MS two weeks already, all I wanted to do was enjoy playing halo online again on a new system.
I gave 343/MS two weeks already, all I wanted to do was enjoy playing halo online again on a new system.
Dougieflesh
Member
What a joke of a game. I personally won't be purchasing Halo 5 or any 343 game after this debacle.
Also Reach was the beginning of the end. IMO that was an awful game with these worst multiplayer maps in the series only rivaled by Halo 4's trash maps.
Also Reach was the beginning of the end. IMO that was an awful game with these worst multiplayer maps in the series only rivaled by Halo 4's trash maps.
LOL What.
Reach was terrible MP, the campaign was decent, but MP was trash, shit maps, shitty bloom, armor abilities, Arena was a shitty excuse for noe 1-50
It sure was.
Reach was hot garbage....4 was marred mainly by the drops and the loadouts...if you take those two things out 4 was an excellent halo
It suffered also from halo fatigue on the 360
Holy Shit you are wrong...bf4 when it launched was much more broken than halo mcc. Even if you got into a game it was almost guaranteed to crash at launch. MCC works in some points (having great luck with halo 2 anniversary rumble)
Oh hey look! A NeoGAF thread that derailed into bashing Halo Reach... again!
Halo 4 was the beginning of the end. 343's involvement was the downfall of Halo, not Reach, let's get that straight.
I've stated since early this year that both Halo 5, and anything else 343 touches would not have the same quality as the previous entries, and Stinkles laughed.
Well, I'm sure things are pretty humble over at 343i right now.
Halo is dead. Long live new IP's and let's stop beating a dead franchise.
Halo 4 was the beginning of the end. 343's involvement was the downfall of Halo, not Reach, let's get that straight.
I've stated since early this year that both Halo 5, and anything else 343 touches would not have the same quality as the previous entries, and Stinkles laughed.
Well, I'm sure things are pretty humble over at 343i right now.
Halo is dead. Long live new IP's and let's stop beating a dead franchise.
I thought Halo 4 was a better game than Halo Reach.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
It might have, had they used "The Fall of Reach" (the book) for the story. As it stands Halo CE, 2 (despite the ending), 3, and ODST have a better story than Reach. Reach just had some decent characters.
Miles Quaritch
Member
You're deluded to the point where I question your mental state if you truly believe that the decline began with 4.
speakerlog
Member
Seriously? I couldn't join BF4 games without getting kicked for weeks on PC.
ManUtdRedDevils
Member
Well glad I was not expecting to play Halo with friends over Thanksgiving break. This industry is getting good at releasing apologies.
It might have, had they used "The Fall of Reach" (the book) for the story. As it stands Halo CE, 2 (despite the ending), 3, and ODST have a better story than Reach. Reach just had some decent characters.
I think i like you
From what I remember I had terrible performance issues. Lots of rubber banding especially on Lancang Damn. Never really ran into crashes.
You're right. It started when 343 messed up the playlists and did the Title Update to Halo Reach matchmaking.
Thanks for clarifying.
professor_t
Member
This thread has enforced two over-arching tenets of NeoGAF:
1. Opinions vary wildly (Halo Reach has both the best and worst SP campaign in the series, according to people in this thread).
2. Opinions are facts.
1. Opinions vary wildly (Halo Reach has both the best and worst SP campaign in the series, according to people in this thread).
2. Opinions are facts.
AgentOtaku
Member
Yup
My friend and I would love to play some H2 but nope, not happening. I told him to trade in/sell the shit. Useless.
Fox Mulder
Member
AgentOtaku
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Death Metalist
Member
Sigh. This had the potential to be the best collection ever and set the standard for such collections but alas too perfect of a thing is impossible for it to exist in this world so there HAD to be something that's fucked up, such a shame really. I won't be returning the game or anything as I have other games to play as well as I'm enjoying playing the campaigns alone and going after different things but I can see why others would want a refund especially if they couldn't afford many games in a month or just got MCC for the MP.
It's weird though that nobodies problems is consistent, some have more or less than others. For example, Campaign works perfectly with me except for levels saving midway, that's all. Aside from that it works and achievements unlock but some of them take time to do so instead of unlocking immediately but at the end of the day, they unlock.
It's weird though that nobodies problems is consistent, some have more or less than others. For example, Campaign works perfectly with me except for levels saving midway, that's all. Aside from that it works and achievements unlock but some of them take time to do so instead of unlocking immediately but at the end of the day, they unlock.
The title update improved Reach though....
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Hold up.
Hold up.
You think the decline of Halo... started AFTER the introduction of:
Bloom
Loadouts
Fucking Armor Lock
Sprint
Seriously? Am I fucking reading this right. Bash Halo 4 all you want, I'm with you. But to say Reach wasn't the start of decline in Halo, I disagree. Shit maps, shit design choices. Bungie fucked up. 343i took what was wrong with Reach a step further.
I did like how the title update reduced/got rid of bloom and underpowered Armor Lock. Those were welcomed features.
That's why when looking to evolve the series, you have to look at what the game does well and what it doesn't, not take features from popular games and mesh it into the game to "keep it up to date." Call of Duty may have made the "spawn everyone with different abilities" popular, but it hasn't worked well in any Halo game that it has been implemented in. Mixing up how the game plays has always been something that Halo needed since Halo 2, but giving abilities(whether on the ground or an inherent player ability) have not been the best ways to do it.
Now, to clarify, I'm not saying don't ever pull things from other games. I'm saying they shouldn't shoehorn other ideas without critically thinking about how it would affect the game. Halo doesn't have a spectator mode. CS:GO does have one, and myself like many others believe that 343 should look at how they implemented their system and figure out what pieces would work for Halo.
I remember almost nothing from Reach's campaign to be honest outside of that one level that was a poor man's Truth and Reconciliation, the death of that bland Spartan who wore the darker blue armor, and the last part where you fight endless waves of Covenant until you die (that was legit awesome). If Reach would have followed the Fall of Reach book (and actually given us a good Master Chief origin story too) it would have been the GOAT.
maneil99
Member
They cant get the 4 games to work, you want another 2?I hope they make this right by adding reach and odst as downloads for free...that would go a long way
akidnamededdy
Banned
I hope they make this right by adding reach and odst as downloads for free...that would go a long way
Yeah, more games to not be able to play.
I don't agree with your assessment of BF4 state at launch. Between all of the crashing, horrible rubber banding, net code issues, server issues, and gameplay bugs it was almost unplayable for a lot of p people for months. Lots of people considered it broken until the last CTE patch was pushed out, although I personally don't agree with that last statement. The ability to save a single player game is still broken, but I honestly don't care about that.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Utter nonsense. The game was a hot mess at launch. You can't expect 343 to shine a turd that's exactly what Reach was, a piece of shit that only served as a way for Bungie to test out gameplay mechanics and designs they wanted to use in Destiny.
You can play revisionist history all you want and hold Gungie on some pedestal where you think they were the only ones to know how to make Halo, but you're only deluding and lying to yourself.
Pre-patch H2A co-op worked fine for me, since then I haven't been able to get it working. It tries to load the missions but it crashes back to the menu every time.
SlickShoes
Member
I had to play through the single player of BF4 in one sitting because it kept deleting my save data.
BF4 was probably just as broken as MCC sounds, this time I am not buying it until it's fixed instead of being one of the people trying to live with all the horrible bugs.