Capcom teases new PS4 game

Boogdud said:
You can bet that whatever it is, it's not what you want it to be.
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Not necessarily, reading this thread and seeing what most people are asking for, Capcom will eventually please most people from the looks of it. It's right there in the OP, they're not working on just one game after all. There are many. Folks should be more optimistic, it's not like Capcom can churn out half a dozen new IPs in quick succession, they've obviously going to revisit their more notable ones. Though, in all honesty, I'd probably like it a lot more if they did just manage to make a lot of new IPs. It's just always more interesting to see something you don't expect, or something which feels different or fresh.
 
Verendus said:
Not necessarily, reading this thread and seeing what most people are asking for, Capcom will eventually please most people from the looks of it. It's right there in the OP, they're not working on just one game after all. There are many.
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So Devil May Cry 5 and Dragon's Dogma 2?

Someone hold me.
 
Verendus said:
Not necessarily, reading this thread and seeing what most people are asking for, Capcom will eventually please most people from the looks of it. It's right there in the OP, they're not working on just one game after all. There are many. Folks should be more optimistic, it's not like Capcom can churn out half a dozen new IPs in quick succession, they've obviously going to revisit their more notable ones. Though, in all honesty, I'd probably like it a lot more if they did just manage to make a lot of new IPs. It's just always more interesting to see something you don't expect, or something which feels different or fresh.
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oh shit
 
Verendus said:
Not necessarily, reading this thread and seeing what most people are asking for, Capcom will eventually please most people from the looks of it. It's right there in the OP, they're not working on just one game after all. There are many. Folks should be more optimistic, it's not like Capcom can churn out half a dozen new IPs in quick succession, they've obviously going to revisit their more notable ones. Though, in all honesty, I'd probably like it a lot more if they did just manage to make a lot of new IPs. It's just always more interesting to see something you don't expect, or something which feels different or fresh.
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So they managed to clone Itsuno and now we are getting Dragon's Dogma 2 + DMC5 + Rival Schools.
 
Verendus said:
Not necessarily, reading this thread and seeing what most people are asking for, Capcom will eventually please most people from the looks of it. It's right there in the OP, they're not working on just one game after all. There are many. Folks should be more optimistic, it's not like Capcom can churn out half a dozen new IPs in quick succession, they've obviously going to revisit their more notable ones. .
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Verendus said:
Not necessarily, reading this thread and seeing what most people are asking for, Capcom will eventually please most people from the looks of it. It's right there in the OP, they're not working on just one game after all. There are many. Folks should be more optimistic, it's not like Capcom can churn out half a dozen new IPs in quick succession, they've obviously going to revisit their more notable ones. Though, in all honesty, I'd probably like it a lot more if they did just manage to make a lot of new IPs. It's just always more interesting to see something you don't expect, or something which feels different or fresh.
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Mega Man...
 
Well it's good to hear capcom works well with the ps4 hardware. But the problem is not the graphic, they need to hire more talented game designer because the last games show how much mediocre are became in this department.
 
Dahbomb said:
Itsuno needs to expand upon the DMC4 combat engine, not be content with making the same thing but with prettier graphics. That's how you push the benchmark which is what a DMC game does.

And yea Capcom totally needs to hire writers and designers for the game to reach it's max potential.


We are not going to get PS2 era Capcom again. That was definitely among their finest moments in gaming.
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Mesoian said:
Naw, he just needs to take the DMC4 fight engine and put in a game that's visually stimulating and has a narrative which is both tongue and cheek while being interesting.

Meaning Capcom needs to Hire up when it comes to artists and designers.

Which they won't.
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About the writting.
DMC story is garbage, its entertaining shit, but all DMC games with sometimes the only exception being DMC 3 are considered to have poor stories.

Most people now expect some kind of epic journey or quest, and DMC is NOT that, its more like a cartoon, i hope they keep it that way.

The thing is, the story is over,Capcom made a good prequel using a few of the elements of DMC 1,,but there have been three DMC stories that are after the first game and all of them only introduce new characters and flesh out the world a little (DMC 2, The Animated series, DMC 4). There is no more character development for Dante after DMC 1, there is not a new threat after Mundus, unless they pull something out of their ass, like aliens or angels.

In a way, i cant blame Capcom for not knowing what to do with the universe of Kamiya.
I enjoyed the scenario of DMC 4 for what it was, but i think one of the main reasons Capcom went to Ninja Theory was to make something more appealing to that audience, as the story has always seen as a weak link by many.

DmC is Capcom trying to hire new writters and artists.
 
All you said is true, Dante has no further room for character development unless he starts aging and has a need to push him to the next level to overcome a difficult obstacle. The universe is also lacking a strong villain who is threatening enough to challenge Dante, who is the most powerful being in this universe.

Which is why they have backed themselves into a corner and are basically forced to bring back Vergil to challenge Dante or start opening up portals to other worlds to introduce bigger, badder villains.

Otherwise the story is "Nero faces the most important moment in his life... but for Dante it was just Tuesday". This was amusing for DMC4 at best but for future games it is simply not acceptable... that joke has been run through the ground now.
 
Sub Boss said:
About the writting.
DMC story is garbage, its entertaining shit, but all DMC games with sometimes the only exception being DMC 3 are considered to have poor stories.

Most people now expect some kind of epic journey or quest, and DMC is NOT that, its more like a cartoon, i hope they keep it that way.

The thing is, the story is over,Capcom made a good prequel using a few of the elements of DMC 1,,but there have been three DMC stories that are after the first game and all of them only introduce new characters and flesh out the world a little (DMC 2, The Animated series, DMC 4). There is no more character development for Dante after DMC 1, there is not a new threat after Mundus, unless they pull something out of their ass, like aliens or angels.

In a way, i cant blame Capcom for not knowing what to do with the universe of Kamiya.
I enjoyed the scenario of DMC 4 for what it was, but i think one of the main reasons Capcom went to Ninja Theory was to make something more appealing to that audience, as the story has always seen as a weak link by many.

DmC is Capcom trying to hire new writters and artists.
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Mundus doesn't die at the end of DMC1 if I remember right, he just gets sent back to the demon world where he supposedly can't come back.

The funny thing is, isn't the "pulling something out of their ass" thing kind of what they did with Bayonetta 2?

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If we're going to dip into potential fanfiction DMC5 stories I'd have two possibilities that I think sound kind of good.

1) Dante vs God. Hell/Demon World has been done to death at this point yet the potential other side of the coin hasn't been explored at all in the prime DMC universe. Considering Dante at this point has walked over all of the most powerful demons in the DMC-verse it would make sense for the people behind the pearly gates to start getting worried about Dante. Yes, this steps on Bayonetta's toes, but I'd be okay with it if we get Dante showing up God. The "angels" in DMC4 aren't truly angels, but the fact that the word "angel" and "god/savior" exist in the prime DMC verse lends credence to the possibility that there are tales/legends of Heaven and God (which in all likelihood means they actually exist).

2) Have DMC5 open up with Nero becoming corrupted by his demon half and going full on evil. Make the game focus on Dante searching for Nero in order to put Nero down. Want a chance to flesh out Dante's character a bit? Have him be torn at the idea of killing his last living relative.
 
Everyone say it with me:

DRAGONS DOGMA 2!

I'm 100% we will be seeing DMC5 sometime this gen but DD2 I'm not sure. Capcom, Sony someone please!!!


Also the only way this could be exclusive is if SCEJ are helping which is actually quite likely after the hints Ono has left visiting Sony, the OP, Deep Down and Verendus' hints.
 
Confirmation of angels/heavens in DMC would basically be one step further in confirming the DMC + Bayonetta canon.


Dante would totally beat up God
/Rodin/Jubileus/Aesir
whoever the fuck as well.
 
Sub Boss said:
About the writting.
DMC story is garbage, its entertaining shit, but all DMC games with sometimes the only exception being DMC 3 are considered to have poor stories.

Most people now expect some kind of epic journey or quest, and DMC is NOT that, its more like a cartoon, i hope they keep it that way.

The thing is, the story is over,Capcom made a good prequel using a few of the elements of DMC 1,,but there have been three DMC stories that are after the first game and all of them only introduce new characters and flesh out the world a little (DMC 2, The Animated series, DMC 4). There is no more character development for Dante after DMC 1, there is not a new threat after Mundus, unless they pull something out of their ass, like aliens or angels.

In a way, i cant blame Capcom for not knowing what to do with the universe of Kamiya.
I enjoyed the scenario of DMC 4 for what it was, but i think one of the main reasons Capcom went to Ninja Theory was to make something more appealing to that audience, as the story has always seen as a weak link by many.

DmC is Capcom trying to hire new writters and artists.
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Let's put it this way.

They tackled the DMC anime in the same way they tackled the DMC game as far as narrative is concerned. That anime was one of the worst written things of the year.

W101 is a far more cartoonish game than DmC or Bayonetta. The writing is DRAMATICALLY better than all of DMC and Bayo put together.

In 2014, saying that narrative structure doesn't matter "because it's a game" no longer flies. If your story is garbage, your game is worse for it. Hire people that know how to build a world, it's important.

And to be fair, the best part of DmC was it's narrative and it's writing. That element of that game was not terrible, and the people who give it shit are the same people who conveniently forgot about "Let me fill your dark soul with light." It's like everyone who played that game and knocked it's writing forgot how much of a 6th grade sentai show DMC1 was, or forgot about Dante riding missiles like surfboards in DMC3.
 
Sephzilla said:
Mundus doesn't die at the end of DMC1 if I remember right, he just gets sent back to the demon world where he supposedly can't come back. DMC4 kind of alludes to the existence of angels/god but the ones in DMC4 are fake - they could go the full route and have heavenly forces start going after Dante since he's probably the most powerful demon in existence right now. Yes that might be stepping on Bayonetta's toes a little bit, but I'd be 100% on board with Uncle Dante trying to show up God.

The funny thing is, isn't the "pulling something out of their ass" thing kind of what they did with Bayonetta 2?
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And i agree, i dont care about the story if they make it entertaining,
Bayonetta 2 was more of a prequel, introduced demons, fleshed out the world and characters of the first game, much more than any of the DMC 1 sequels, if they were to make another,then it would be on the same place.

Mundus returning is unlikely, Dante talks about his son :P
like i said, they could make something about Mundus and Vergil. but , it would not be new.
 
Dahbomb said:
Confirmation of angels/heavens in DMC would basically be one step further in confirming the DMC + Bayonetta canon.


Dante would totally beat up God
/Rodin/Jubileus/Aesir
whoever the fuck as well.
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lol - i see absolutely nothing wrong with this.

A Devil May Cry / Bayonetta crossover would be the craziest thing.
 
I don't know it they'll show RE7 with Revelations 2 and REmake HD already announced.

I'm hoping for Dragon's Dogma 2.
 
Mesoian said:
And to be fair, the best part of DmC was it's narrative and it's writing. That element of that game was not terrible, and the people who give it shit are the same people who conveniently forgot about "Let me fill your dark soul with light." It's like everyone who played that game and knocked it's writing forgot how much of a 6th grade sentai show DMC1 was, or forgot about Dante riding missiles like surfboards in DMC3.
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I strongly disagree here actually. DmC's story absolutely crumbles the moment any kind of logical thought is put into it and in general feels like fan-fiction quality. DmC's strongest element was probably it's gameplay, even if it wasn't up to par with the rest of the franchise.
 
Sephzilla said:
I strongly disagree here actually. DmC's story absolutely crumbles the moment any kind of logical thought is put into it and in general feels like fan-fiction quality. DmC's strongest element was probably it's gameplay, even if it wasn't up to par with the rest of the franchise.
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It was dull, i dont know what is the message NT wants to give us, or care enough, Mundus was a wasted oportunity, the enemies looked awful, and they are known for their storytelling,, say what you will about Devil May Cry but Dante (and company) was an iconic character.

But its a personal preference,,people can say both are garbage and thats it.
 
Verendus said:
Not necessarily, reading this thread and seeing what most people are asking for, Capcom will eventually please most people from the looks of it. It's right there in the OP, they're not working on just one game after all. There are many. Folks should be more optimistic, it's not like Capcom can churn out half a dozen new IPs in quick succession, they've obviously going to revisit their more notable ones. Though, in all honesty, I'd probably like it a lot more if they did just manage to make a lot of new IPs. It's just always more interesting to see something you don't expect, or something which feels different or fresh.
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This is the OP:

Onimusha
the Lost Planet
Resident Evil
 
Sephzilla said:
I strongly disagree here actually. DmC's story absolutely crumbles the moment any kind of logical thought is put into it and in general feels like fan-fiction quality. DmC's strongest element was probably it's gameplay, even if it wasn't up to par with the rest of the franchise.
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I strongly disagree, but then I'm the only one, it seems, who like's Dante's "Fuck you!, NO FUCK YOU!" exchange with the shit demon. I think it could have been handled better, but by handled better I mean extending the exchange so the "FUCK YOU" is more of a punchline.

If Capcom were smart, they would have stolen Ninja Theory's art department and kept them on, it really is the best thing about that game. The writing is also good, but it has too many jokes that fall flat.
 
Sub Boss said:
It was dull, i dont know what is the message NT wants to give us, or care enough, Mundus was a wasted oportunity, and the enemies looked awful,, say what you will about Devil May Cry but Dante was an iconic character.

But its a personal thing,people can say both are shit and thats it.
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DmC shares a couple of odd parallels with DMC1. The only difference is that DMC1 had a prequel that showed progression on the storyline front while DmC came out over a decade later and made the same mistakes.

-Mundus stands around in one room almost the entire time in both games and talks about how big and evil he is but never actually does anything evil.

-Surprise! Vergil is a villain.

-Mysterious lady shows up at Dante's door and drags him into the plot.

-Dante is surprisingly one note most of the time. (DMC1 Dante at least dresses fine)

-(This one is entirely just a me thing) The scene in DmC where Dante is screaming while falling from a skyscraper when Mundus has his fingers dug into him made me cringe just as bad as "LIIIIIGHT" from DMC1 simply because DmC Dante's voice actor phoned in that scream so badly.

I'll still defend DMC3 as a decently put together story and that Arkham is actually a well put together villain though as long as I can. Rest of the franchise be damned, DMC3 was legit.

Mesoian said:
I strongly disagree, but then I'm the only one, it seems, who like's Dante's "Fuck you!, NO FUCK YOU!" exchange with the shit demon. I think it could have been handled better, but by handled better I mean extending the exchange so the "FUCK YOU" is more of a punchline.

If Capcom were smart, they would have stolen Ninja Theory's art department and kept them on, it really is the best thing about that game. The writing is also good, but it has too many jokes that fall flat.
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Mundus is an awful written villain who we only view as evil because the writers tell us he's evil. Vergil's heel turn at the end of the game is poorly set up and feels like the writers remembered at the last second "oh wait, he's a villain in the old games". The jokes fall flat. "Not in a million years" just feels mean and spiteful. Dante goes from needing Kat in order to interact with the human world while in Limbo to being able to do it on his own without explanation back to needing help again without explanation in the later half of the game. Mundus is quite possibly the dumbest villain ever. We're supposed to believe that Dante suddenly cares about the well being of humans when during the entire game he almost never even reacts to the bad things happening to any human that isn't Kat.

I see where they were trying to go with DmC and it could have actually been decent had they hired some actual competent writers. But at the same time someone really should have stepped back and said "do we really want to make a game that has a story about the evils of big business/mass marketing in a game that features a protagonist who is a glorified Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle?"
 
Most likely Onimusha seeing DMC and Dino Crisis has a western feel and Onimusha has always been that Feudal setting. Making westerners turn their heads indeed.
 
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