Thug Waffle
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got a chance to play this at my friend's
i'd go out and buy a wii u just for this game. it's so sick
i'd go out and buy a wii u just for this game. it's so sick
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Thats the snap mechanic.
Do it.
so i tried the trick of snapping a picture of both the gamepad and my TV to determine its latency, and my TV was at a difference of two milliseconds with the time on the gamepad
so what exactly is my TV's latency? is it alright?
Gamepad has about 1 frame of lag when not in Virtual Console mode. Your TV seems to have either 1 or 2 frames of lag which is pretty great.
Virtual Console games (at least the NES and SNES) have increased latency for no apparent reason.
Professor Beef
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It's far too early for anyone to make a tier list, so don't worry about it.
Don't worry. What I've been told Bowser is far from bottom tier. He might actually be mid tier now.
Dead Prince
Banned
pikachu top tier clock runner.
No idea, it still worked. They properly count them as "Stuff".
JB-the-Hunter
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No way Bowser is the worst character in the game. Not even close.
Karsticles
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If someone thinks Bowser is low tier, I invite them to add me their friends list.
kunonabi
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Is there a way to prevent it from happening?
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Everyone's entitled to their controller of choice, of course, and yes, the Pro Controller is a lovely controller, but the GameCube controller really is the best pad for Smash, objectively. The Pro Controller crowd who says that we only love the GC pad "because we grew accustomed to it over the years" are kidding themselves, really.
First of all, the GC pad has a better primary analogue stick. It doesn't feel as loose as the Pro Controller's sticks; it gives slightly more resistance which really helps with pulling off consistent tilts, for instance.
But, secondly, and more importantly: the button layout is highly superior. The large A button seems made for Smash, and the smaller B button is placed perfectly to the left of it. Finally, the kidney-shaped X and Y button are placed nicely on the upper edges of the A button, placing them in such a way you can easily use them to jump without accidentally pressing an attack button. It really is perfection.
And then there's the triggers, which you may not like as much as the simpler shoulder buttons of the Pro Controller when it comes to functionality, but the way your index fingers can rest on them is sublime and beyond comfortable.
Again, the Pro Controller is a lovely pad, but the sticks are too loose for my taste (almost approaching Dual Shock sticks) and, more importantly, the face buttons feel almost like an afterthought if you look at where they're placed, how close together they are, and where the A & B and X & Y buttons are located.
By all means, get yourself a Pro Controller, but if you're serious about Smash, do yourself a favor and get yourself a Cube controller. I have four Cube controllers and two Wavebirds, and I'll never part ways with them, ever.
First of all, the GC pad has a better primary analogue stick. It doesn't feel as loose as the Pro Controller's sticks; it gives slightly more resistance which really helps with pulling off consistent tilts, for instance.
But, secondly, and more importantly: the button layout is highly superior. The large A button seems made for Smash, and the smaller B button is placed perfectly to the left of it. Finally, the kidney-shaped X and Y button are placed nicely on the upper edges of the A button, placing them in such a way you can easily use them to jump without accidentally pressing an attack button. It really is perfection.
And then there's the triggers, which you may not like as much as the simpler shoulder buttons of the Pro Controller when it comes to functionality, but the way your index fingers can rest on them is sublime and beyond comfortable.
Again, the Pro Controller is a lovely pad, but the sticks are too loose for my taste (almost approaching Dual Shock sticks) and, more importantly, the face buttons feel almost like an afterthought if you look at where they're placed, how close together they are, and where the A & B and X & Y buttons are located.
By all means, get yourself a Pro Controller, but if you're serious about Smash, do yourself a favor and get yourself a Cube controller. I have four Cube controllers and two Wavebirds, and I'll never part ways with them, ever.
Honestly, whoever is your best character. I did it with Link since his up tilt KOs everything in one hit and you can keep your rival at bay with projectiles.
Karsticles
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My NNID is Karsticles.NNID: MakaiUSA
I think he's like mid-tier
KLatin Scelus
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Finally got the game.
Not as excited as I should be though :/
Not as excited as I should be though :/
Finally got my copy and tried online for a bit... was playing "for fun" but ran into a bit of lag. Better than Brawl but still not ideal. Think this will be fixed? Are you guys experiencing lag as well? My connection is one of the top in the country (Optimum Online, graded A by the speed testers). I'm really hoping that this game will bring all my college friends back playing this game, even though we're now all over the country... Brawl's horrible online was such a disappointment.
From what I can tell, all it takes is one bad connection to ruin everything. I played three "for fun" FFA matches with the same group and it was great. But as soon as one of them dropped and someone else came in, it started lagging really, really bad. After any laggy match, I just hop out/rejoin and hope for the best.
If you are playing with friends, it probably won't be much of an issue since you will know what kind of connections they've got.
Tabasco
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Questions:
What tips do you guys have for 1v1 matches? I keep getting beaten by players that clearly know what they're doing, and I get matched with these kind of people at least 8/10 times. The raging just doesn't stop, lol.
Is there general advice for learning how to play better, or does that dive into character specifics? If it's the latter, I play as Ness and Luigi for 1v1 matches and Ike for 4 player matches. I tend to switch to different characters depending on who I feel like playing as, though.
What is the best button config to use for the gamecube controller? I noticed people like to use buttons to jump instead of tapping the stick, so I was curious what stuff you guys like to change.
Also, does anyone find it annoying that if you're fighting in one direction, but then want to switch sides and then buffer up your next move, you still get stuck on that one side? For example, I'm fighting on one side with Little Mac and I want to switch sides and buffer his special move, but the side I'm buffering that move doesn't swap even though I tap the stick to the side I want to buffer the move on. It seems to happen quite often.
What tips do you guys have for 1v1 matches? I keep getting beaten by players that clearly know what they're doing, and I get matched with these kind of people at least 8/10 times. The raging just doesn't stop, lol.
Is there general advice for learning how to play better, or does that dive into character specifics? If it's the latter, I play as Ness and Luigi for 1v1 matches and Ike for 4 player matches. I tend to switch to different characters depending on who I feel like playing as, though.
What is the best button config to use for the gamecube controller? I noticed people like to use buttons to jump instead of tapping the stick, so I was curious what stuff you guys like to change.
Also, does anyone find it annoying that if you're fighting in one direction, but then want to switch sides and then buffer up your next move, you still get stuck on that one side? For example, I'm fighting on one side with Little Mac and I want to switch sides and buffer his special move, but the side I'm buffering that move doesn't swap even though I tap the stick to the side I want to buffer the move on. It seems to happen quite often.
Spainkiller
the man who sold the world
Quick question: for challenge 15, do you have to collect 300,000 gold throughout the game regardless of how/when you spend it, or do you have to actually collect 300,00 gold and keep it with you?
BeatResetsTheWorld
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I know, it's a blessing and a curse. I don't know how many times I've used it to get to a Smash Ball when going past someone.
I LOVE Smash 4. I think the only thing I really miss from Melee is the old air dodge and chain recoveries. Being able to move in the air was way more useful than a single attack miss but otherwise following the same descent path, and I loved how chain weapons could latch onto the sides of stages. It made people like Samus/Link with a so-so recoveries have a really good ones once you mastered it
Klaymator14
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awesome to hear! i also had no idea about the increased latency in the virtual console games, i think i definitely noticed that last time i player super mario world on here which was a long while ago, that's pretty stupid :\
thanks for the help!
Shamrock7r
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GGs Silent_Ocarina. Keep Rocking that ness
MisterCrow
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How the heck do you get to the Photo Studio? I can't find the menu option anywhere. Is it part of Games & More --> Vault --> Album? That's the only place I can't see because I don't have an SD card inserted. Which by the way is the dumbest thing. I have plenty of internal storage that the game just completely ignores. It's such a Nintendo thing to happen.
Prevent what? Snapping to the ledge? No.
Silent_Ocarina
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Haha, I think I have a lot to learn. Thanks for playing and thanks for your patience!
uncleniccius
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Will you be playing online? If so, and if you don't mind do you want to play some time? Playing with UK folks is probably the most reliable way to get a decent game - I imagine playing US GAF will be a laggy mess.
CitizenVectron
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You can still use the chains to grab the ledge from a distance. Or do you mean grabbing any wall?
I've mostly been playing 1v1 over wifi and haven't seen much lag there. However, the few FFA matches I played were pretty laggy.
Shamrock7r
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I am now determined to get awesome with Wii Fit Trainer. Nobody uses her and her moves are hilarious.
It's because you are late to the party. I mean, captain toad is out in a week. We are almost done with this game already.
Her "crawling" is amazing. If only it was faster...
Finale Fireworker
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Ganondorf.
Side smash KOs very easily. Or you can just throw him off the edge and down spike. You can get your four KOs in practically a minute.
People telling you that are just wrong. Bowser is great and has been great since Day 1.
Don't worry, I main Charizard and nobody play Charizard.
I'm playing for fun anyway
My brother does!
You gotta enter hoard and then there's an option on the gamepad.
Lunchbillion
Member
Yeah you used to be able to grapple walls, not just ledges. As a Link main in Melee I have missed it dearly
SoldnerKei
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I feel you, being able to go back from the bottom of fountain of dreams was pretty cool to pull off, that, his boomerang from 64 and the semi-spike on his spin attack from melee are the things I miss the most from previous entries
dragonlife
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For general improvements to my game I've been reading the stuff on the techniques page on the ssb wiki and then practicing the things I think would be the most useful over and over again in training mode until I have the mechanics down. From there I'm slowly trying to integrate them into my actual matches. For character specific advice I recommend reading the character forums on smashboards.
With the GC controller I think most people use the default button layout with stick jumping off. Personally I use the gamepad with default controls - stick jumping with shield assigned to ZL so I don't have to reach up to the shoulder buttons.
Full disclosure: I suck at Smash.
SoldnerKei
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does anyone use Falco? I like to play kind of aggresive with him, since you can't lolLazorSpam anymore, also I like how Marth feels a lot better with a GC controller, totally gonna sub him again
Captain Rage Quit 69
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I'm a Falco main.
Yep, laser game is not what it used to be, but his new moves lend Falco well to close combat. Unfortunately I struggle to approach with him sometimes, but that's part of footsies. Falco is, in my opinion, the most neutral game oriented character in SSB4.So, does anyone wanna play for a bit? I'm looking to work on my mains and try to figure out Wii Fit Trainer.
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