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Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows

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Am I the only one not feeling Kuvira as a villain? The show is trying to paint her like she's Hitler, but everytime a character goes "Kuvira did this" or "Kuvira is doing that" I just say "Ok" and shrug my shoulders. I'm just not seeing it.
 
I cannot think why Asami isn't featured more. She has such utility. Especially since they're setting her up to be the avatar's main squeeze. Korra can learn so much from her perspective, and find balance. I have to think that's what they're going to do over the next few episodes - have Asami impart on to Korra a technological ideology, so she can better understand Kuvira's methods. The most positive thing about this episode to me is the passing of the torch "the tech representative of the show" from Varrick to Asami.

They'll have girl talk and whatever because Asami is kind of down because she isn't getting a breakthrough on the manhattan project so she goes to her father for help.

Am I the only one not feeling Kuvira as a villain? The show is trying to paint her like she's Hitler, but everytime a character goes "Kuvira did this" or "Kuvira is doing that" I just say "Ok" and shrug my shoulders. I'm just not seeing it.

Showing, not telling. "Kuvira is the worst dictator of all time." Sure, I guess.

Amon was crippling people out in the open and Zaheer was bodying world leaders. Kuvira has re-education camps but that's just an idea until you see first hand the devastation she brings to those she doesn't value. Her legacy is built on words through the eyes of other characters, which doesn't make for effective villain-making because the viewer is cut out of the equation.
 
Am I the only one not feeling Kuvira as a villain? The show is trying to paint her like she's Hitler, but everytime a character goes "Kuvira did this" or "Kuvira is doing that" I just say "Ok" and shrug my shoulders. I'm just not seeing it.
Concentrations camps are pretty evil. Trying to kill your subordinates is very evil. Beating up the main character is uber evil.
 
That scene where Zaheer helps Korra reminded me of how those TV/DVD repair folk would interact with their customer.

Zaheer: Yep, you're pretty busted.
Korra: Can you fix it?
Zaheer: Here's your problem, you're not letting your traumatic hallucination play out.
Korra: Huh?
Zaheer: All you need to is let it play out in full.
Korra: That simple?
Zaheer: That simple.
Korra: Wow, thanks Zaheer. Out of everyone who helped me, you were the most supportive, understanding, and helpful.

"Did you turn the avatar state on and off?"
"Did you install the recent raava driver?"
"Did you plug in the avatar connection correctly?"
I'll be surprised if we all manage to stick around for the finale.
 
I didn't mind Zaheer helping. After all, it was never personal between him and her, and his goal is to remove world leaders, especially bad ones. That's what Kuvira is, so it's in his interest to help. I wish we had gotten a line along the lines of him pointing out to Korra that one day he will go after her again, but other than that, it's within his character.
I would have loved him saying, "You know this prison can't hold me forever."
If they ever do another series, I'd like some connection back to Zaheer's ideologies influencing some more rebeleous airbenders.
 
I interpret it as Future Industries developing everything, and Asami is simply the face.

this is somewhere among "opal shouldn't even be mad! her mom attacked the psychotic dictator that was trying to take over their city! SUYIN COMMITED A WARCRIME!" and "korra had the connection to the past avatars beaten out of her by unalaq! WORST AVATAR EVER!" on the ridiculousness scale.

I set my expectations at season 3, which was good. I expected decent storytelling, but everything is hamfisted and surface level or just a waste. Why did Kai get so much screen time and undercut Jinora's development to not be in season 4 virtually at all?

season 3 was good (YMMV, i think it was boring) because it was surface level story telling. they didn't overcomplicate the tale they were trying to tell by packing on some philosophical tripe that the story itself didn't even believe in (unlike book 1 & 2).

and hell, kai's awfulness was born in book 3. they introduce characters in every season that undermine the importance of other characters (like when mako was introduced in book 1). this show doesn't care about logic. stop letting yourselves be hurt by this mess. they don't love you. these hos aint loyal. purchase 7/11 (by BEYONCE) on itunes today and get your life to that instead.
 
as a matter of fact, treat this show more like Panty & Stocking or Kill la Kill. like god none of this makes any fucking sense but lawd is it pretty.
 
My dream situation is the heavens open up, and the spirit of Wang Fire descends on the swamp, and proceeds to wipe out Kuvira's army with a mighty fist. Then trimming some hair from his glorious beard, he plants the hairs into the ground and they quickly grow to become new trees.

Then everyone lived happily ever after. The End.
 
as a matter of fact, treat this show more like Panty & Stocking or Kill la Kill. like god none of this makes any fucking sense but lawd is it pretty.

The show can make sense. It can do so much more than it is currently doing, but it's unfocused. Season 3 works because it didn't introduce anything impossibly stupid, didn't have the terrible romance crap dragging it down, had interesting villains, was well paced with a lot of action, showed some growth in characters, and had a great finale. That's all this show has to do. It's so simple. We've seen it with AtLA, which was simple and well executed throughout ninety percent of its run.

But this Korra redemption arc feels like it's dragging on - and worse - it doesn't even feel like she's an active participant to it. She gets told what to do and how to feel. Shit just happens to her as she continues to become more and more ashamed of her lack of power.

It doesn't feel like she's growing past the trauma, even now when she was literally dragged into the spirit world by the dude that tried to kill her three years ago.

I heard 7/11. It's okay, just gets the women in the club turnt which is all I need it to do. And the video is well appreciated.
 
Good episode. That ravaa shit was uncalled for though. Even if korra did finally relieve herself of all mental barriers so she could sense ravaa again that was a really poorly executed way to go about revealing her. So bad and I'm notorious for giving this series the benefit of the doubt.
 
Concentrations camps are pretty evil. Trying to kill your subordinates is very evil. Beating up the main character is uber evil.

The problem with the reeducation camps is they did a cardinal sin of storytelling, the told us instead of showing us, so it all rings hollow. Even worse was the Bender Separation angle, which got a sentence of mention and then never mentioned again. I am being told shit without much backing it up.
 
this is somewhere among "opal shouldn't even be mad! her mom attacked the psychotic dictator that was trying to take over their city! SUYIN COMMITED A WARCRIME!"

Going to stop you right there, if Suyin hadn't done something so monumentally stupid that even Korra commented on how stupid it was then Zao Fu has needed not to fall. Perhaps the rest of the family does not deserve to be jailed but Suyin absolutely should be locked away for a very long time for her crimes.
 
But Kill La Kill had fun ass characters. Satsuki shits on the entire Korra cast.

And an extremely fun story with likable protagonists and antagonists.

I *really* want to like Kuvira but it's been 2 episodes and we haven't seen a peep from her in an already short season, her personality is pretty much set in stone and it's a damn shame. At least we got beard zaheer, the ultimate incarnation.
 
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This season has focused too much on Korra healing. It should have stopped multiple episodes ago. Recovering from traumatic experiences is a long process, but the focus has come at the cost of the story arc. If the remaining episodes focuses on the super weapon, I think the writers missed out on telling a more meaningful plot. Zaheer helping her is a glimpse of what the story could have been.
 
Zaheer is such a boss man, holy shit...

Guy is bounded, and was even more spiritual than the Avatar. In the end he even managed to guide her through her fears and get her back in the game. We talking Iroh level of guidance right now fellas.

IIRC wasn't he supposed to be the Red Lotus version of her Airbending guide/mentor if they had captured her all those years ago. If so his "guidance" makes some sense.
 
Korra would have been such an interesting avatar if it was Red Lotus vs White Lotus thing for season 1... Korra being the Red Lotus avatar who sees the light of things and starts to path of redemption.

Then end the series with Amon trying bring equality due to terrible nature of Korra.

Korra the Fallen Hero goes against her mentor and defeats Red Lotus from within...

Seriously, all 4 season's have been terrible in terms of writing.

Season 3 > Season 1 (minus the rushed ending) > Season 4 (so far, too slow paced) > Season 2
 
The problem with the reeducation camps is they did a cardinal sin of storytelling, the told us instead of showing us, so it all rings hollow. Even worse was the Bender Separation angle, which got a sentence of mention and then never mentioned again. I am being told shit without much backing it up.
I don't get why they didn't bother to show it

In the first series they showed what the fire nation did to earth bender prisoners

They showed what ba sing se did to dissenters
 
I laughed at those reactions

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How fucked up is it that not even your own brother is fucking happy to see you after nobody knew where you were. Sure they hugged twice afterwards.

And let's not even get into Opal. If after the rescud mission attempt she still is on Bolin's ass then quit it Bolin. This is your year. Get a new girl who doesn't hold a grudge that nobody else seems to hold.
 
How fucked up is it that not even your own brother is fucking happy to see you after nobody knew where you were. Sure they hugged twice afterwards.

And let's not even get into Opal. If after the rescud mission attempt she still is on Bolin's ass then quit it Bolin. This is your year. Get a new girl who doesn't hold a grudge that nobody else seems to hold.
Should've just stuck with Korra in that case.
 
How fucked up is it that not even your own brother is fucking happy to see you after nobody knew where you were. Sure they hugged twice afterwards.

And let's not even get into Opal. If after the rescud mission attempt she still is on Bolin's ass then quit it Bolin. This is your year. Get a new girl who doesn't hold a grudge that nobody else seems to hold.

Well he didn't really look mad either.
 
Everyone should just learn that floating thing like Zahir

Even in the avatar state korra can't do it, for shame

That requires releasing everything that you've ever cared about, eliminating the possibility of any ship involving Korra. They'd never stand for it.
 
How the fuck has she not told Lin or anyone that Toph is in the swamp?

Korra really is spiritually clueless and hardly even attempts to get better at it.
 
The Opal shit is definitely annoying. I feel torn. Honestly, I kind of figured they would shrug it all off and Opal would forgive and forget. I just figured the show didn't have enough time left to flesh out that plot, and it just wasn't something they would do. But they have. Opal is mad at Bolin, and not able to forgive him.

I'm not against it in concept. But really, its' like...they haven't really done enough with this couple to make me care about them. I care about Bolin (I guess), so it's kind of annoying to have him go through all that shit, come back...and then have a lot of people hate him being back. Like uh..okay.

Logically, makes sense. Don't really know if the characters are like fleshed out enough for me to...play this plot off in a way I care or find enjoyable.
 
The Opal shit is definitely annoying. I feel torn. Honestly, I kind of figured they would shrug it all off and Opal would forgive and forget. I just figured the show didn't have enough time left to flesh out that plot, and it just wasn't something they would do. But they have. Opal is mad at Bolin, and not able to forgive him.

I'm not against it in concept. But really, its' like...they haven't really done enough with this couple to make me care about them. I care about Bolin (I guess), so it's kind of annoying to have him go through all that shit, come back...and then have a lot of people hate him being back. Like uh..okay.

Logically, makes sense. Don't really know if the characters are like fleshed out enough for me to...play this plot off in a way I care or find enjoyable.

More specifically, she won't forgive Bolin until he assists her in her revenge. That, combined with the controversy over striking first, makes me think that she's going to pull a Katara but won't pull herself back in time to not get Bolin killed.
 
I wonder how zaheers levitation thing works. Like, we got an explanation for the other sub bending abilities, but all we're told is zaheer let's go of his earthly tether. OK, but what does that actually do?
 
The Opal shit is definitely annoying. I feel torn. Honestly, I kind of figured they would shrug it all off and Opal would forgive and forget. I just figured the show didn't have enough time left to flesh out that plot, and it just wasn't something they would do. But they have. Opal is mad at Bolin, and not able to forgive him.

I'm not against it in concept. But really, its' like...they haven't really done enough with this couple to make me care about them. I care about Bolin (I guess), so it's kind of annoying to have him go through all that shit, come back...and then have a lot of people hate him being back. Like uh..okay.

Logically, makes sense. Don't really know if the characters are like fleshed out enough for me to...play this plot off in a way I care or find enjoyable.
The issue is that the writers make Bolin into a complete idiot who can't form a fucking sentence together for the sake of convenient drama. If they had written him like a regular human being when Opal was giving him shit during the picnic he could have easily said something like

"Listen. I didn't know. I genuinely didn't know she was psycho. Neither did Varric nor Zhu Li. We tried escaping when we realized it. I saw us doing so much good out there I wanted to pretend that what you were saying wasn't real since nobody else seemed to think so outside of your family. I fucked up. I am here asking for your forgiveness and I know I'll have to earn your trust again and I am prepared to do that. But don't blame me for your family getting captured."

Instead he just barfs bad jokes. When she's about to leave he managed to say something decent. But Opal is clearly holding contempt for Kuvira and everybody else who isn't helping her family and taking it out on Bolin. Poor Bolin.
 
Korra would have been such an interesting avatar if it was Red Lotus vs White Lotus thing for season 1... Korra being the Red Lotus avatar who sees the light of things and starts to path of redemption.

Then end the series with Amon trying bring equality due to terrible nature of Korra.

Korra the Fallen Hero goes against her mentor and defeats Red Lotus from within...

Seriously, all 4 season's have been terrible in terms of writing.

Season 3 > Season 1 (minus the rushed ending) > Season 4 (so far, too slow paced) > Season 2

Again.

Had Nick orderers full seasons from the get go AND the writers swap the seasons villains around, this shit could've easily stood toe-to-toe with ATLA.
 
The issue is that the writers make Bolin into a complete idiot who can't form a fucking sentence together for the sake of convenient drama. If they had written him like a regular human being when Opal was giving him shit during the picnic he could have easily said something like

"Listen. I didn't know. I genuinely didn't know she was psycho. Neither did Varric nor Zhu Li. We tried escaping when we realized it. I saw us doing so much good out there I wanted to pretend that what you were saying wasn't real since nobody else seemed to think so outside of your family. I fucked up. I am here asking for your forgiveness and I know I'll have to earn your trust again and I am prepared to do that. But don't blame me for your family getting captured."

Instead he just barfs bad jokes. When she's about to leave he managed to say something decent. But Opal is clearly holding contempt for Kuvira and everybody else who isn't helping her family and taking it out on Bolin. Poor Bolin.
After seeing how crazy these Bei Fong women are is it even worth getting back together with Opal?
 
I wonder how zaheers levitation thing works. Like, we got an explanation for the other sub bending abilities, but all we're told is zaheer let's go of his earthly tether. OK, but what does that actually do?

I guess it's like a better version of how they use the gliders/squirrel suits, and he's bending the air in him and around him psychically, like Amon's bloodbending or Combustion Man's headcannon.

Why your girlfriend's head exploding gives you this power I do not know.
 
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