Thats a big if that just seems to easy. These exclusive contracts are not written up by kids and just say said game will be exclusive on said platform , they are most likely pages long and cover all kinds of variables. I am sure sony could have stopped the game from going multiplat if they wanted too.
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Thats a big if that just seems to easy. These exclusive contracts are not written up by kids and just say said game will be exclusive on said platform , they are most likely pages long and cover all kinds of variables. I am sure sony could have stopped the game from going multiplat if they wanted too.
Can Crusher
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Because Take Two ain't bitch made. You think they are going to let Sony control what they do with their games in this day and age?
Sony couldn't even hold Square Enix down.
KoopaTheCasual
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Lol, such lofty goals. It would amazing if it sold half of that. You're basically expecting this new core-centric IP to have Assassin's Creed level of platform penetration.
Very unrealistic.
Was Tretton involved with third party relations?, and that would pretty be something someone in his position would say to divert and not answer straight up about an information he cant give away.
"Sony doesn't own the trademark to the game either"
As I said, I dont see Sony going into a deal like this without owning the IP
According to Shorrock, "Rockstar really wanted to make a game that you can truly only do on PS3" and added that the reason Sony locked the IP down as an exclusive deal was because Sony believed the franchise would "set the bar for the rest of the industry.
Market leading is irrelevant, you set the condition at twenty million units, regardless of placement in the market.
And the second part is unrelated to the install base or MC score. Marketing is always what sells games, so sure, if Sony spent $100m on the marketing budget, maybe it sells six million, but again, that has nothing to do with your original post.
lazer_bean
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clearly not, that was my point.
I dont believe in Agent as we "know" it any more than R* new IP coming out exclusively on ps3. If this is clearly not true then we have no reason to believe any other info (spy stuff etc..) advertised on the Agent website either. Or believe in this Agent game altogether
I set the condition at 20m plus (20m being minimum) in 2016...(and it will also depend if it gets a holiday release or a Feb/March release). I am however not sure how a holiday release would work given the way Sony operates - my guess is that SSM GOW game will release holiday 2016. It's a prediction nonetheless....
Lol, do you even know how gaming IP works
It has nothing to do with being someones bitch, if Sony approached Rockstar with the funding and collaboration to make a game with the rule that they own the IP and Rockstar agrees, the deal is sealed
Rockstar and Sony have very close relations, unless somehow Sony lets go of the IP, its pretty much still theirs as long as there is a contract
Can Crusher
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Sony doesn't own shit.
There's a difference though.
Agent was a project. If during the course of development, the globetrotting was dumped in favor of a single open world location, maybe London, to give it at cool Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy-vibe. Maybe the seventies were taken back to the sixties for a more hippy vibe and a cooler soundtrack. Maybe the spy stuff was moved to a more gangster angle. Maybe they renamed the project GTA: London II, and that's what finally ships. In that case, it's still the Agent project.
Everything about it can be different, but if it came from the same stain of development, it's still the game people are asking for.
illmatic22
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Sony does not own Agent. End of story.
Sony to acquire Take-Two confirmed.
Probably bc sony was waiting on R* to decide what they wanted to do. If I was sony id rather get a game from them then sue them for breach of contract . I just find it very hard to believe sony would have such a weak contract in place that they are left with marketing deals that they have to pump more money into
I never said it recieved a lot of praise, I didnt even say by who
According to Shorrock, "Rockstar really wanted to make a game that you can truly only do on PS3" and added that the reason Sony locked the IP down as an exclusive deal was because Sony believed the franchise would "set the bar for the rest of the industry
Ben Feder, former president of Rockstar parent Take-Two Interactive, said that the game would be "genre-defining" and "a whole new way of experiencing videogames that we haven't really seen before.
There's the praise
And if one of Rockstar's studios was working on Agent, there would be something by now, Which is why I still believe Sony has a huge decision on it
Sephiroth_GR_
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Don't see what the big deal about AGENT was and still don't see it now.
The concept of an espionage videogame set at Cold War at the end of the 1970s won't bring the same excitement as a FFVII remake or the return of an old legend Sony mascot like Crash Bandicoot.
Ah well, you will have to prove it then
Basing on how Sony works and the details of Agent I have seen, Sony have locked down the IP
You're implying the contract was breached by some loophole. There's no reason to think that's the case.
Maybe the contract was something like this 'one year exclusivity on PS3 in exchange for one year of first party royalties reduced by 80% and eighty million dollars co-marketing budget', and it got to the point where Sony knew the game wasn't going to have a significant enough impact on the PS3's sales that they didn't want it.
slavesnyder
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The answer is R*
Rogue Agent
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So, does everyone have the IGN Deals email thing where you get $30 off 2-day tickets?
If not and anyone is interested in purchasing 2-day tickets, then let me know for a discount code (if it still works).
If not and anyone is interested in purchasing 2-day tickets, then let me know for a discount code (if it still works).
Sure, that's why Tretton wasn't so sure about it being exclusive.. in 2011. You do realise Sony back then did secure exclusives without ever owning the IP. Sony of today is not Sony of 2008.
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Don't see what the big deal about AGENT was and still don't see it now.
The concept of an espionage videogame set at Cold War at the end of the 1970s won't bring the same excitement as a FFVII remake or the return of an old legend Sony mascot like Crash Bandicoot.
I can't believe how much stock some of you guys put into Crash. He wasn't worth this kind of talk ten years ago, let alone right now.
Rogue Agent
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Thanks for that lol.SSHHhhhh no facts, only dreams now.
Tag change? Since when?
MatrixMan.EXE
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Don't see what the big deal about AGENT was and still don't see it now.
The concept of an espionage videogame set at Cold War at the end of the 1970s won't bring the same excitement as a FFVII remake or the return of an old legend Sony mascot like Crash Bandicoot.
Simple: A Rockstar game that is/was supposedly exclusive. Those two things are enough to create the perfect storm of hype.
And how is wasnt so sure a good evidence as Tretton was not involved in third party relations of PS
Sony PS division of 2008 is still very close to the one of today, they never really get into deals without collaboration or owning IPs, just look at the back log of second parties and third parties IPs they own worked on by other studios
Is that on the trademark file?? or the documentation contract of Rockstar and Sony of the Agent product??
I am preparing to spike the ball
He's beginning to believe...
threelights
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Wow, Y2Kev just outright confirmed TLG.
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Oh boy, 7 days to go.
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Oh boy, 7 days to go.
Can Crusher
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Not really that interested in TLG because they took over that project and now are actually trying make a game out of it. How boring.
Since folks in this thread are so easily gassed up over nothing, probably.
FinalStageBoss
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Y2Kev has finally seen the light
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slavesnyder
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Maybe rockstar can finish it and call it the last agent.
GarciaHotspur
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Thursday it was FFVII. Yesterday it was Crash. Today TLG and Agent.
What's next guys ?
What's next guys ?
If the big megaton announcement is TLG I will fucking rage. Give me some hope on something new GAF, pls.
Ice cold man.
Ice cold man.
And also the truth.
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LookAtMeGo
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Gassed up? Like a poison chemical gas? Syphon Filter? Stop teasing!!
Well, 10 years ago he wouldn't have nostalgia value yet.
MistaBowaa
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What if the rage is that TLG ran into development problems, so it was scrapped in favor of reintroducing it as Shadow of the Colossus 2?
Sephiroth_GR_
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Shenmue III and after that Half-Life 3
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