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Star Wars The Force Awakens Trailer
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omnislayer
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The movie isnt separate from the tv show, its just episodes cut into a film.
SCReuter
Member
Neat.
Chezzymann
Member
how do the cars hover? Its supposed to be a fantasy. Are we seriously trying to understand how all the details work in a fantasy movie? That's missing the entire point.
Gambit 1138
Banned
Haha ok I'll trust what Abramas, Whitta, and Kinberg have said previously though instead as there the ones Disney is investing in and not the story group who will change canon at whim if the order comes in from higher up.
SCReuter
Member
I thought he was just making a crack at me, like you did earlier, but now I'm not so sure.
Pure conjecture passed on as fact based on comments unrelated to the production of the film series once both joined it. NeoGAF at its finest.
I wonder how the force will be portrayed in the new ones. Maybe a freaking super sonic bang when someone pushes something.What is this then? Constipation after a bad galactic burrito?
brandonh83
Banned
What happened in the prequels was fine. I don't see why anyone would have a problem with them bring canon. Of course they're canon. They're the first three episodes of the soon to be nine. Not liking them is one thing but I don't see how the actual events that transpired in them is so awful to the point where anyone would have a beef with them being part if the overall story.
That's the kind of hate I can't understand. I can bitch about the acting and dialogue and unnecessary amounts of CG like anyone else but I still liked and accept the actual stories just fine. There's no reason why they shouldn't be considered canon. That's beyond ridiculous.
That's the kind of hate I can't understand. I can bitch about the acting and dialogue and unnecessary amounts of CG like anyone else but I still liked and accept the actual stories just fine. There's no reason why they shouldn't be considered canon. That's beyond ridiculous.
This is bullshit Right?
Did they really dropped the episode numbering? That's just confusing!
I thought they just didn't put it in the teaser, because they wanted to make the most of classic logo nostalgia
Gambit 1138
Banned
JJ was interviewed by Howard Stern after he was assigned to the production where he made the comments about ignoring the prequels. This came after stern went on a rant about how terrible the prequels were.
thecouncil
Banned
Oh who even knows anymore? Haha.
lifa-cobex
Member
Hot Coldman
Banned
I want to see some new Force powers. Maybe not in this one - it'll help them a ton if they make the film primarily about non-Force-users - but definitely in the future.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Yes, it's bullshit. The episode number will appear in the opening scroll, it just won't be used in the marketing for the film.
Gambit1138 pretty much doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about at any given moment, is all.
for example, that JJ quote he's referencing is literally "that's history." Which it is. It's literally history in regards to when it takes place in relation to the story he's telling. It's not him disavowing the movies or relegating them to a lower form of canon.
brandonh83
Banned
The 88 second teaser has a pod racer in it. The prequels aren't going to be ignored regardless of what he said. I think he knows he's in a spot where he wants to respect the previous films but at the same time he knows how up in arms people could get if he says anything positive about them, which is smart.
Gambit 1138
Banned
What the fuck? That's pretty hostile especially when everything I've said is almost entirely true.
Anyway this conversation is too premature. Let's talk once both "episode 7" and whitta's films are out
Can't believe we're actually discussing whether the first 3 episodes are canon or not.
The story points happened. We can argue about the way it was presented and how it came across, but the movies happened and the story points happened.
I don't like the prequel trilogy overall, but I don't mind their stories from a general plot points perspective. The dialogue and the way everything was acted, shot, and edited are what I had issues with. And metaclorians. Fuck them.
The story points happened. We can argue about the way it was presented and how it came across, but the movies happened and the story points happened.
I don't like the prequel trilogy overall, but I don't mind their stories from a general plot points perspective. The dialogue and the way everything was acted, shot, and edited are what I had issues with. And metaclorians. Fuck them.
bananafactory
Banned
Yup that's how I feel as well. I thought the larger story arc, even the trade federation BS, was quite interesting. It was the execution and how the story was told that was terribly flawed.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
No, it's not really hostile, and no, almost nothing you've said is true.
The JJ quote is misconstrued at best, like I already pointed out.
Whitta's personal opinion of the quality of the prequels doesn't override their canonicity, either.
You just fabricated an entire level of canon out of thin air despite having the actual facts directly linked.
You then tried to suggest the episode number was removed from the movie (despite the fact it's not removed) as support for your completely made-up theory regarding something called "B Canon."
That plus your really weird comments regarding diversity in this movie from previously in the thread make you someone not worth taking all that seriously because you don't think about the things you say before you say them.
That's not a hostile assessment of your contributions to this thread.
Grover Cleveland
Member
1500 posts of "THAT WAS AWESOME"
750 posts of "Fuck the prequels"
50 posts of "The prequels weren't that bad"
650 posts about the droid
50 posts about diversity in Hollywood
2000 posts about the lightsaber
true...like your insane comment about the cast (of which NONE of the leads are white males) not being diverse enough?
Florida Man
Banned
+1 "THAT WAS AWESOME"
The trade federation stuff is the most confusing and unnecessary part of the prequels IMO. Redlettermedia hit the nail on the head with tearing that to pieces. Why the hell would this large intergalactic organization suddenly start taking orders from some random dude? (palpatine)
I don't know why anyone would oppose The Clone Wars as canon. It is the best Star wars since the original trilogy. Sure it started off rocky but it gets amazing. We will never see anything of that caliber again either animation wise because it was Georges pet project. It was practically his way of fixing a lot of issues in the prequels. He poured millions into even while it was losing money.
Why do you think Disney was so fast to kill it off even though they had 2-3 more seasons planned. It was wildly expensive and Disney was not going to foot the bill like George was.
Why do you think Disney was so fast to kill it off even though they had 2-3 more seasons planned. It was wildly expensive and Disney was not going to foot the bill like George was.
brandonh83
Banned
See this is the kind of respectable attitude I enjoy seeing. It's a shame that those flaws exist but I rarely see people who don't like the prequels this... easy going, I guess. It'd be my pleasure to talk all day about SW with people who carry this attitude about the prequels. I don't care if people dislike them but there's a way to have intellectual, mature conversations while being respectful.
Oh and you claimed only the originals are canon and the rest were b-canon.
Which how do I put this...is fucking 100% completely DEAD wrong. How about this Lucasfilm press statement from this year?
http://www.starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page
Gambit 1138, I don't you have a single post in this thread even partially resembling the truth.
thecouncil
Banned
Midichlorians probably won't be mentioned in the new trilogy, unfortunately.
And not because the writers of the movies hate the prequels and don't consider them canon, but because everyone in the universe that knew about them is dead.
And not because the writers of the movies hate the prequels and don't consider them canon, but because everyone in the universe that knew about them is dead.
Gambit 1138
Banned
I never said the episode number was removed from the movie. It will obviously be in the title scroll but that will most likely be it. However you will remember that initially Disney was calling it episode VII and even had a temp logo and that has now changed.
Shogmaster
Member
Overall, I like what you did here......
The design first grows then just thrusts itself upon you, doesn't it?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
That's because the movie DIDN'T HAVE A NAME YET.
it's changed because THE MOVIE HAS A NAME NOW.
thecouncil
Banned
What'd you want them to call it in the meanwhile? "New Star Wars"? Luke, Leia and Han are in it, dude.
You claimed the prequels and clone wars were b-tier canon.
Read this. You are wrong, period
http://www.starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page
Also the guy who is on the Lucasfilm story group council on Twitter explained very plainly the Prequels, The Original Trilogy, the Clone Wars, and Rebels are 100% canon and equal of importance and continuity.
how much did you watch?
Gambit 1138
Banned
The stuff with Mortis and the zillio beast was weird. I really didn't want to see a story arc devoted to jar jar making out with an alien that had a very sterotypical Indian accent either. Also it recycled too much from the OT making it seem like the whole universe just keeps going in circles. Imo brining maul back wasn't a good idea either.
However the Obi Wan arc was top notch especially the final mandalore story in season 5
WrenchNinja
Member
Why is it unfortunate
None of that changes The Clone Wars is an immovable object in Star Wars canon. A piece that is considered EQUAL with the likes of The Empire Strikes Back within the canon. Your statement about a b-tier canon was completely incorrect.
thecouncil
Banned
Because I'd love for that not to be ignored just because people thought it was dumb.
Veritigo_X
Member
There were episodes that sucked for sure (Jar Jar anyone?) but there were some great episode archs mixed in there as well. If you started watching the first season, I would honestly just skip to the 3rd season and skip every episode that is centered on droids or Jar Jar.
Edit: Here's a handy episode guide I've seen posted before - http://i.imgur.com/v38KxPj.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Cl0ZZ9H.jpg
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I'm not the resident SW expert and thought that trailer sold me. It was not a lot but the nostalgia kicked in.
CloudyTuba
Member
I agree about TCW. Among a lot of great things, The Clone Wars made Anakin actually seem like a capable Jedi rather than a teen angst posterboy. A lot of solid Star Wars in that series, though not every episode could be a masterpiece.
One of these days I'd like to go through the series and cherrypick what I believe to be a "Best Of" list and watch it as condensed version of the series for only the best canon contributions.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It might not. Depending on who this figure in black is, it's possible some of that old shit could be brought back up. I don't think little prequel references are out of bounds at all. I mean, there's old podracers in the background of the balldroid shot from the teaser.
I'm 33. You get to a point where you realize all this stuff is just entertainment and not worth losing your mind over. People are entitled to their tastes, and I appreciate passionate fandom as much as level-headed appreciation for something. What I see as comical are people who are passionately negative about stuff like this...like that youtube random who complained about the teaser and just kept repeating "if George Lucas had made this teaser, you'd all be roasting him for it!" stuff like that is just for laughs and I'm almost certain people like that are self-aware trolls who know exactly what they're doing in an effort to get clicks.
thecouncil
Banned
True. You never know.
Some of the edits are so so stupid I can't not laugh when I see them.The scene where the Sand People are about to take Luke at the start of A New Hope and R2D2 is hiding behind some rocks. In the special edition they added more rock to hide him more.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
+1 "The lightsaber looks dumb."
but it was.
I really hope no one will talk about that again.
the pt maybe canon, but tha doesn't mean, the new films have to mention stuff from it.
and I'm always confused about all the clone wars stuff.
there is the movie, attack of the clones.
then there are 2 series.
clone wars and the clone ware.
which of those is considered canon?
why isn't the other?
btw.: for me, everything for anh never happed.
this includes the pt and the clone wars series.
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