Because those places don't tout themselves as strictly moderated like GAF. This place has a tougher barrier of entry and people that step out of line too often don't last very long. What that user said was out of line and offensive, and he was being called out on it.
I wasn't previously aware of the very, very racist parts of reddit.
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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You're posting in a place that already bans racists and sexists. We're doing really fine.
Most of the subreddits can get pretty racist out of nowhere. Casually racist jokes and memes are all over the place.
dave is ok
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Ironically, this thread is mentioned on one of those very subreddits.
The internet is a flat circle.
The internet is a flat circle.
m_shortpants
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Yeah, it's basically everywhere. Saw a lot of stupid FB/Twitter posts in the wake of Ferguson.
roundabout
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I think the worst thing about Internet racists is that they have a very poor vocabulary and are evil hateful wankers. They're not even funny.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Not quite the same, but I see quite a few "Mah nigga" images posted on Gaming with nothing happening, I coulda sworn I saw someone get banned for it a few years ago though.
pants
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same pretty much
Isn't "ma nigga" ok if a black person uses it? Also my understanding is that the a at the end makes it quite different from the er version.
This is the same on every big website, unfortunately. There are a very large group of people (mostly teenagers) who think that using the n-word and talking about why they hate black people makes them subversive and cool.
At the same time, there is a concerted effort by Stormfront and other white supremacist sites to infiltrate online communities and spread their propaganda. It's hilariously ironic that these people accuse "the Jews" of poisoning forums and message boards, when in fact they do the same thing.
By and large, the vast majority of the racism on Reddit is "diet racism". Occasionally people will post misleading statistics about how Black people are violent by nature, but that isn't the norm.
Stereogatari
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The general attitude there towards Muslims irks me. There's nothing wrong with criticizing a religion (I'm an Atheist of Muslim background myself), but there's a fine line between valid criticism and general racism against Muslim majority ethnic groups, and Reddit's consensus unfortunately tends to fall into the latter.
Also I'm Turkish. I fucking hate how ignorant people are towards Turkey and Turkish people. For the most part we're a very Europeanised (for lack of a better word) people and racially we're closer to Eastern/Southern Europe than the Middle East. But according to general views on Reddit we''re brown and religious. Though that's more of a general Western thing than a Reddit only thing.
Also I'm Turkish. I fucking hate how ignorant people are towards Turkey and Turkish people. For the most part we're a very Europeanised (for lack of a better word) people and racially we're closer to Eastern/Southern Europe than the Middle East. But according to general views on Reddit we''re brown and religious. Though that's more of a general Western thing than a Reddit only thing.
entremet
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Sure you can do that on a tiny place like NeoGAF, which still has a huge amount of moderators, open registration with a long waiting list, and a specific unifying topic--videogames.
But we're talking about tens of thousands of subreddits. Same with Twitter and FB. There's garbage posted on those, it's almost impossible to enforce, so they let the users self moderate, which is what I do with Reddit. I just don't visit those subreddits filled with vile commentary.
Comparing NeoGAF to Reddit doesn't make any sense.
Comparing NeoGAF to a specific subreddit does. Each of those has their own moderation team.
If you don't want to use the site in its entirety, that's fine. It's just many of the discussions of comparing NeoGAF to Reddit never make sense at all in terms of how each operates. They're very different. NeoGAF and Something Awful are more comparable.
For niche topics, there a few internet resources better than Reddit in terms of aggregation. The fact that anyone could start a Reddit community today, on say underwater basketweaving, is very appealing and powerful.
True. This recently came up on a small, "niche" sub I'm subscribed to in the wake of Ferguson. Was pretty disappointed, but I'm not really surprised anymore.
Exactly. Offensive comments frequently appear where they aren't expected. Even on a lot of news sites, racist comments are officially prohibited. But this policy goes unenforced (or it is very poorly enforced) the majority of the time.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I think it does make sense if you accept moderation as scalable. Threads here generally keep themselves moderated by virtue of the site's general rules and expectations. Moderators don't see everything, but we can all reach them and bring anything to their attention. When Reddit owners have something brought to their attention, they tend to leave the shitty subreddits functioning anyway instead of doing something about them.
Sheriff_Battlesnake
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I've had an account for nearly half a decade and frequented Reddit even prior. It really does make me sad to see the community change so much. It just feels like it reached critical mass and started agreeing with itself, and what it agreed on was a load of bullshit. Fat shaming, casually racist, and almost always on the wrong side of social debate, in my opinion. There will always be a "next" new place, but it's unfortunate what happens when things get too large and collapse into a giant echo chamber. They're the Tumblr they hate so much, just with equally shitty different opinions.
I know, I know. Clean up my subs.
I know, I know. Clean up my subs.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Pretty much.
Name one positive thing about reddit.
entremet
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I never knew of the stereotypical Tumblr stuff until recently
I've always used Tumblr for art, fashion, graphic design. Didn't know it became a huge platform for a particular ideology until reading about here on GAF lol.
r/askhistorians
r/mensfashionadvice
r/personalfinance
r/philosophy
r/science
r/earthporn
And many others. There was also a job hunting reddit that helped me with my resume.
I've always used Tumblr for art, fashion, graphic design. Didn't know it became a huge platform for a particular ideology until reading about here on GAF lol.
r/askhistorians
r/mensfashionadvice
r/personalfinance
r/philosophy
r/science
r/earthporn
And many others. There was also a job hunting reddit that helped me with my resume.
Dreams-Visions
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Racism on Reddit?
But I was told we're in a post-racial society.
But I was told we're in a post-racial society.
*Work allows the use of Reddit
*High profile AMA's that have user participation
*Dedicated sub communities for anything you could want to discuss
Just some of the positives that come off the top of my head, why do you have a problem with Reddit?
Alligatorjandro
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If you have a good nose, you can smell the racism in some neogaf threads.
my office doesn't block it
blurgenstein
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Seriously? /r/askscience and /r/askhistorians for one. You clearly know nothing about reddit.
Plenty of helpful people on many different topics, informative threads with loads of info on many different topics, and many different subreddits for the topics you want to learn more about or discuss.
I subscribe to the stuff I like and unsubscribe from the shitty subs. :shrug:
The first one is subjective
Lots of garbage comments in those AMAs and they usually last for just a few minutes.
The dedicated subs are hardly monitored and fester with things like what the OP is talking about.
There's nothing you can find on redfit that you can't find after spending a minute on a clickbait site. I'm sorry but reddit allows people to behave badly.
entremet
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Of course lol.
I have no beef with people boycotting the site because of their no moderation policy. That's fine. That's a conscience thing and I can't hate on that.
But to make uneducated assertions about the whole thing is pretty sad.
I guess it's just different philosophies at play.
I can curate my online experience fine.
/r/news talking about the guy who was found shot and burned in his own car during the whole aftermath of Ferguson was particularly gross in terms of victim blaming. Like there was absolutely nothing about the story out but the vast majority of it was, his grandmother should have kept him in the house, he should have known better than to be there, he shouldn't have lived there, etc
Blame victims for getting shot, brehs.
freenudemacusers
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not sure how you can dismiss AMA's when so many of them end up on here.
entremet
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This is just not true. r/Askhistorian is a great example of this.
Again, if you can't stand Reddit due to their moderation policy. That's fine. That's a decision you make with your conscience. I can't criticize that. Just like I can't criticize on your choices to be a vegan due to your conscience for example. But regarding the content, that's just factually untrue.
ive been a mod on askreddit to say I'm uneducated is a little unfair. From my perspective there's more trash then treasurers.
entremet
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I apologize then.
I also agree with you. The half dozen of subreddits I use make it worth it to me. But you're right there's a lot of trash.
OP was specifically referring to specific pro-racist subreddits, not the general tone of Reddit posters. As was mentioned, you can see racist undertones in GAF's Ferguson threads too, that's everywhere.
Arjen
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r/gonewild
Zen_Arcade
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Zuhzuhzombie!!
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It wasn't child porn, but it was close. "creep shots". And the subreddit still exists as well.
Heads up most of gone wilds posts are revenge porn, screen shots of cam girls or 4chan reposts. About 5% of the content on there is actually coming from women. There's better ways to see naked people.
IISANDERII
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Free speech. Got to take the good with the bad. And we have the freedom of speech to say that bigots are disgusting fucks.
I don't mind what kind of content these sites allow, I'm for the most part against censorship (aside from obvious extreme cases). If someone is a bigot I would rather know they are a bigot so I can avoid them rather than interact with a facade they put on. That goes for both the internet and in real life.
Anyway I can count on one hand how many times I've been to reddit, I've never felt the need to go there.
Arjen
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Oh really? I had no idea, thanks voor the info. That doesn't sit well with me.
The only things the reddit admins step in on is posting personal information and vote manipulation.
You're free to make a sub for any crazy topic and talk about it as much as you want. You also don't have to go to any of those subs.
But when the crazy subs get big, there's a lot of overflow, such as racists on /r/AdviceAnimals.
You're free to make a sub for any crazy topic and talk about it as much as you want. You also don't have to go to any of those subs.
But when the crazy subs get big, there's a lot of overflow, such as racists on /r/AdviceAnimals.
Kite
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Protip, if you are a university student see if your school has its own subreddit. It depends, but if it is an active one like mine then you can find a bunch of useful into and insider tips. Hell I once found a temp job on campus there when I needed some money fast. Also see if your city has its subreddit, I've found a bunch of local shows and events in mine.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/ is very tightly moderated. It makes r/askscience look like a joke (as if r/askscience needed any help).
There are a lot of dope places on there, I follow a few, but they're mostly small communities. Anything that hits /r/all on the regular tends to drop tremendously in terms of comment/post quality. It's all over the board. I wouldn't defend it anymore than I'd defend GAF or any other site. They're all just websites after all, no one should make excuses for any of the dumb shit commenters pull on any site. The lack of consistent moderation though is glaringly obvious on a number of big parts of that site.
Higgins113
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Name one positive thing about GAF
WanderingWind
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Well, there are a lot of strange opinions ITT, but this is the first bald faced lie so far.
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