CM Punk tells all about walking out of WWE (podcast)
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styl3s
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Of course he didn't come off as angry or vindictive, the man has been acting for over 30 years and was just put on blast you think he's gonna prove those points right by coming on the Steve Austin podcast and completely bury Punk?
I think Vince is more out of touch than he wants to admit. He pretty much acknowledged that he's heard critics say that about him, but he seems like he's in a bit of denial. It was refreshing to hear him say he'd like to bury the hatchet and work with Punk again though and that he would be able to put his ego aside for the sake of business. That's a lesson HHH could learn.
DoktorEvil
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You buy that shit?
He wants to work with Punk because he knows Punk in WM would result in ridiculous PPV buy ins, not because the business needs some reform.
What ppv buy ins?
that's exactly what he means by putting his ego aside for the sake of business
Vince has always been willing to work with guys once things calm down because of the $.
Vince more or less straight up said it would be a smart business decision to have Punk back. That's Vince talk for "he'd bring in more money".
It still takes him putting his ego aside at least a little bit though.
Sir_Crocodile
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That's hhh
DoktorEvil
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I didn't listen to the Stone Cold podcast, but listening to the Punk one, I thought one of the issues was wrestler health.
Did Vince ever talk about that?
Vince didn't talk about it and Austin never went into that subject specifically.
Sir_Crocodile
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I haven't had the chance to listen to the full vincey yet, does austin ask him who made that creative call in atlanta that caused him to walk? Heard he was going to
DoktorEvil
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Well if one of the big issues(and Punk isn't the first to say it) revolves around the health and wellness of the talent, wouldn't it be a bigger issue to address rather than whether or not Vince would accept Punk back?
We know Vince would happily accept Punk back, but is Vince going to even attempt to fix the issues regarding health?
Absolutely. After Punk's pipebomb back in 2011 when he tore into Vince, he said that backstage all of the wrestlers were freaked out that Vince was going to lose his shit and want to kill Punk, but when Punk ran into Vince the first thing McMahon said to him was "I smell money".
fucking lol. Maybe they aren't "trying as hard" because all the previous wrestlers who tried hard died in their 40s and 50s because of all the undiagnosed concussion problems you willfully ignored while paying them a fraction of their worth.
But no, it's the new generation that is problematic. You're the great human being, Vince.
Austin walked out as well (for different reasons.) You can't "play nice" with Vince, it takes a lot to get through.
But is it hard to completely burn bridges with Punk?
No. It's super easy to burn bridges with Punk because he's a raging asshole who burns bridges with everyone everywhere he goes.
UberTag
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I think Triple H managed to do just that when he pulled that wedding day stunt.
In fact, he didn't just burn the bridge. He fucking demolished it.
Sir_Crocodile
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I don't think that ever happened. Which makes the reality really sad, to be honest. Savage didn't want to leave the WWF really, Vince loved him (announcing on an edition of Raw that Savage hadn't signed a new contract, was leaving and he wished him all the very best), and they probably would've finally worked together again if Randy hadn't died. I think their beef was genuinely just a couple of stubborn guys being stubborn.
And their tribute video to him was basically the best thing ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDvXVP2iSNs
He left ROH on good terms though.
strobogo there seems to be a recurring theme in all your posts!
Which is why I don't think we'll see Punk return any time soon even if Vince is willing to pony up big money.
Sir_Crocodile
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Vince looked at macho with jealous eyes
Paracelsus
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If you think the oldest WWE champion of the forever (?) is Vince (54) then the thought of him passing away and HHH getting full control becomes suddenly way scarier.
I wish he would go to NJPW. Fuck TNA.
They were in negotiations in 2000 for Macho to come back to do something, but it just never came through. I think it was probably for the best, because Macho in 1999 was one of the worst things on WCW programming. I would hate to have had him come back to the WWF and shit up the show there as well. Macho up to mid 1998 is about as dope as it got. Macho in 1999 was horrible at everything you can be horrible at. Would you really want that Macho Man up against Rock, Austin, HHH, Jericho?
Well, Punk is a cunt. That's pretty well known. Cabana called him out for being an asshole who is very difficult to get along with on the podcast and that's his best friend.
DoktorEvil
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HEY PHIL!
If Punk got mad at Ryback for hurting him then he'd probably end up murdering Styles.
Sir_Crocodile
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stro obviously tried to get punk to sign something in an airport
He's wrestled AJ loads of times before. ROH Pure Wrestling title tournament, yo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vheK4XqI7GQ
God, he was juiced out of his mind by then. It's sad because I think he'd calmed down by the time he passed away, they would've made up sooner or later. His mid-00s rap career was entertaining though. His TNA run where he couldn't do anything and once pinned Jeff Jarrett by running to the ring and sitting on him >>>>>
Styles wouldn't dare try Styles Clash on Punk.
This was probably the worst botched spot ever.new botchedspot
Couldn't even make a proper "quieter" joke.
IdreamofHIME
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Why do people feel Vince "buried" Cesaro or that Cesaro should be angry?
He said he likes him and the guy has talent, but he can't communicate verbally* with the audience.
When my boss gives me my annual review, i don't burst into tears at the criticisms. I take them on board and work to remove them or improve on them.
The people saying Cesaro should be sad are actually just backing what he said about millennials.
*BTW he is shit on the mic, for some reason 2K chose him to promote WWE2K14 in the UK last year and went I went along to listen to him, he was terrible at just talking about how good a bloody game was, never mind trying to sell a storyline.
He said he likes him and the guy has talent, but he can't communicate verbally* with the audience.
When my boss gives me my annual review, i don't burst into tears at the criticisms. I take them on board and work to remove them or improve on them.
The people saying Cesaro should be sad are actually just backing what he said about millennials.
*BTW he is shit on the mic, for some reason 2K chose him to promote WWE2K14 in the UK last year and went I went along to listen to him, he was terrible at just talking about how good a bloody game was, never mind trying to sell a storyline.
Paracelsus
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If being a cunt helped burning bridges with the writing team, then the whole roster should take example.
ebullientprism
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So when is the Q&A episode? This week?
I really wanna hear that too.
I really wanna hear that too.
That's the first RoH match I ever watched. In fact I'm pretty sure it's the first indy match I ever watched too.
I just wanted to make the obvious AJ joke
And yet Vince still says that Randy Savage will be in the hall of fame. Haha.
EDIT: Oh god, I just had the mental image of what having sex with Randy Savage must have been like.
Paracelsus
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Someone needs to make a gif of Steve Austin staring a train gallery through his face. He probably knows the full truth.
Liquidsnake
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Mine was of Steph!
i don't think he was acting, to be quite honest. i just saw an old man who was confident in his actions... but still had regrets about the results. i think that's vince mcmahon all over, headstrong and arrogant in his own little bubble, but he recognises when something has gone so, so far wrong.
still, he completely made punk's point that vince doesn't care about anybody other than cena, really. reaching for the 'brass ring'? punk reached for it plenty. he bested cena on merch and got the mainstream talking about wrestling again. could have ushered in a new boom period but we all know how badly it was squandered.
I watched the German editions of Smackdown for a while (Jesus, don't ask me why) and Cesaro came across as incredibly charismatic and nice on the mic. His only crime is having an accent that a writer or maybe a producer didn't like. Like Adam Rose, except I don't think you'll find many people being sad on the internet for Adam Rose being buried because the best case scenario there is main event Adam Rose, and no one wants to see that.
Mr. Enigma
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Recently, Lanny has backed off and said WWE can do whatever they want because they've been so annoying, just don't involve him (Lanny) in it because there's a lot of resentment towards WWE not sending condolences to Randy's family after he died..
HOMEBOY OVER HERE
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so is that rumor about randy savage banging steph real? or just some internet "it's still real to me dammit!!!" smark tier bullshit?
cause I never heard of such a rumor until googling why randy savage isn't in the hall of fame after that vince interview.
cause I never heard of such a rumor until googling why randy savage isn't in the hall of fame after that vince interview.
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