Wish these would load on my phone, seems like it's fascinating viewing/listening. Is it from a DVD or something?
CM Punk tells all about walking out of WWE (podcast)
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UberTag
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Giving RAW a miss is the wise decision 51 weeks out of the year.
As a massive Punk mark who has weened himself off the product ever since his departure I was hoping to see something manifest on tonight's show.
Not gonna lie, I'm curious too but I don't think anything will happen and it's not like Punk is going to be there anyway.
We need to let go and accept the fact that Punk doesn't need to be employed by WWE to be interesting
Dude, I told you to invite us over for WCW/nWo Revenge and Taco Bueno.
Statue of Limitation
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Its from the Steve Austin Show (his podcast) but someone has kindly dubbed the audio over the original match.
Check the show out, its great.
Not gonna lie, I'm curious too but I don't think anything will happen and it's not like Punk is going to be there anyway.
We need to let go and accept the fact that Punk doesn't need to be employed by WWE to be interesting
Who would even mention it HHH and Steph are probably going to be off tv for a bit and Vince doesn't really play heel that much on tv anymore.
Ryback, duh.
Mr. Enigma
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Pretty much. The Rock whined on Twitter about how Axel was getting a raw deal, so WWE repackaged him as Axel, gave him the IC title and stuck Paul Heyman with him and he didn't get over.
nah, Judy Bagwell on a pole match is still the pinnacle.
Axel was the one who trained with Rock for his WM matches.
All I remember from Rock's WM matches against Cena was just exchanging finishers because they couldn't do anything else.
:lol :lol
bean breath
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Buff Bagwell's wife's name is also Judy Bagwell.
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thepotatoman
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I just watched the first one and Steve Austin said he had 5 moments planned for that match.
Maybe they don't practice, but they do plan.
Paracelsus
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They ad lib most of the basic stuff during the match, but 99% of the spots are planned. It's at indie level where they plan the whole thing beforehand.
Syphon Filter
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podcast is not working.any way i can get it in mobile?
Ban Puncher
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For those that didn't watch the Austin/McMahon live podcast on the Network, some highlights about Punk:
Other odds and ends:
- Vince apologized for Punk's termination papers coming on his wedding day. Said it was a terrible mistake and basically blamed it on bureaucracy problems.
- He would like to work with Punk again some day and believes they will eventually get back together.
- Has not listened to the AOW podcast, but was told about it and believed that Punk will probably regret saying some of the things he did in retrospect, that there were communication issues, that Punk often had inadequate communication skills.
- No mention of the medical issues Punk brought up.
- Favorably compared him with Austin multiple times.
Other odds and ends:
- Believes that no one since Cena has tried to grab the brass ring.
- Said that the issues with the current roster stem from being Millennials, which Vince believes makes them afraid of failure and thus less likely to try as hard.
- Specifically mentioned Cena, Wyatt, Rollins, Ambrose, and Reigns as young stars doing well who are going to be important to the future of the company.
- Can't figure out what is missing from Cesaro. It might be because he's Swiss. They're still going to work on him, though.
- Relayed how much he truly, truly loved pushing people into his pool during the 80s/90s
- Truly believes he is not out of touch
- Truly believes he listens to the fans and gives them what they want. Austin pressed him on that many times and the look on his face clearly showed he didn't believe Vince at all.
- Seems proud that he works people to the bone, because he works himself to the bone.
- Doesn't believe a lack of competition has hurt the company, because he views everything on TV as competition and they still do strong ratings every week.
- Doesn't think Brock or Sting need to be on TV very much to be kept as special attractions. Said it is likely that Sting will be at Wrestlemania.
- Austin pressed him hard on Randy Savage being inducted into the Hall of Fame. Vince gave a definitive yes, although could not say if it would be next year.
- Completely believes that WCW's philosophy was to hurt everyone else, while Vince's philosophy was always to help himself.
- If WWE is the only place in town and you're afraid of losing your job by pissing someone off, then you better not piss anyone off.
I really wanted to listen to this. Is there a recording somewhere online? No way I want to listen to an edited version.
firehawk12
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Well, at least they addressed most of it. The medical stuff is probably caught up in legalities I assume.
BadAss2961
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Cena's not young, Vince. Plus he already has the accomplishments of a legend who's been around 30+ years.
Yes, Vince is out touch. Yes, lack of competition has grossly stagnated their creativity.
funkystudent
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Legit lol @ Vince calling the roster a bunch of Millennials.
I mean not everyone needs to be your next John Cena.
You have the most packed roster in a decade but you are only doing stuff with the same 5 players over and over.
Sort out your mid card booking.
I mean not everyone needs to be your next John Cena.
You have the most packed roster in a decade but you are only doing stuff with the same 5 players over and over.
Sort out your mid card booking.
Chie Satonaka
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Looking forward to hearing Punk's response to the Austin podcast.
Let's just see how far this goes.
Let's just see how far this goes.
Compares him with Austin? WTF! Austin is a freaking legend. There is no comparison. One is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time who changed the industry while the other is just a mediocre wrestler with mic skills no one would have given a shit about in the attitude era. Was Vince high when he compared Punk with Austin?
I didn't mean to say he said Cena was young talent. Shield and Bray are who he singled out as top and important young talent, while Cena is the most important in general. Those are the only 5 he singled out by name in a positive manner. Austin brought up the poor booking of Cesaro. Vince said he was great in the ring but was missing something. It seemed to imply that besides the 5 listed, he thinks the roster either aren't trying hard enough or aren't over enough. Certainly didn't think it was from the shitty booking, which Austin really went in on and Vince breezed past it.
That would include guys like Orton, Ziggler, the Usos, Rusev, Sheamus, and so on. Divas weren't mentioned at all. No names from NXT were mentioned. Bryan wasn't brought up by either man.
In the sense of backstage personalities and work ethics, he said they were quite similar to each other. Over all he was very positive about Punk and believed the issue really came down to communication problems on both sides and how there isn't someone like Jim Ross to broker a deal between the two like he did for Austin and Vince.
Oh, he also said it was his decision to end the streak. He felt there would never be a time where someone was as hot as Brock coming into it and would be able to parlay it into something as big coming out of it. He also called Taker by his real name, which was weird as fuck.
Buckethead
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What was Punk's most mediocre match?
Seriously. They really should give SMACKDOWN back to Paul Haymen so he can turn it back into RAWs rival again. It was mentioned on more occasions than anything else, what Haymen did to Smackdown was something that no one from WWE management could ever do, and it was Stephanie conflict with Paul Haymen that caused the side-shift to eventual "side-dumping" of the talented guy. If they let Paul Haymen have full reins of the show together with some responsibility of budgeting, who to have on there and so on, then that would truly be best for business as the entire corporation would be better off and we'll have much better products. Unfortunately, politics runs rapid in that company so I guess Paul wouldn't want to deal with that madness again, and stick to keeping things simple with his current role.
JesseEwiak
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Heyman doesn't want Smackdown. He likes getting paid well for being talent and not going crazy setting up a TV show weekly.
Yeah. I'm getting the impression that Game4life doesn't like Punk in general. For me, I think Punk is brilliant and his match with Brock Lesnar at Summerslam could not be faulted as he had amazing chemistry with that beast of a guy and who ever he works with. Yes, he may not be the exact level of Steve Austin, but one thing you are sure to get from Punk is an awesome match that puts the audience including myself on the edge of our seats.
Yes. That's why I mentioned he doesn't want to get into that madness again.
DontBeThatGuy
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i don't watch wrestling these days, and have rarely done so since the early-mid 2000's(I did get briefly re-interested because of Punk) but I'm fascinated by the more behind the scenes stuff, the documentaries and threads like this.
Talking and listening about wrestling is just way more interesting than actually watching it.
Talking and listening about wrestling is just way more interesting than actually watching it.
megamerican
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I give both Austin and McMahon a lot of credit for having a real interview and not dancing around the stuff everyone wanted them to talk about.
It does seem pretty disingenuous to say that sending the termination papers on his wedding day was some kind of oversight though. Don't believe that for a second. He should have owned up and admitted they were pissed and it was a shitty thing to do in hindsight. Most people would understand that on some level.
It does seem pretty disingenuous to say that sending the termination papers on his wedding day was some kind of oversight though. Don't believe that for a second. He should have owned up and admitted they were pissed and it was a shitty thing to do in hindsight. Most people would understand that on some level.
Mr. Enigma
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One of the most surreal moments of the whole thing was Austin plugging Colt Cabana's podcast right in front of Vince's face when Cabana is supposedly on the shitlist. Hilarious stuff.
sonikokaruto
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Holy shit im watching the podcast replay on the network and they cut out the mention of cm punks name
When steve austin goes
"Now lemme ask you about
Vince: only for a standpoint i would like to apologize
When steve austin goes
"Now lemme ask you about
Vince: only for a standpoint i would like to apologize
Mr. Enigma
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Must have been a glitch on your player. CM Punk's name is not edited in the VOD.
cr_blah_blah
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Yeah, I just finished it seconds ago and nothing was edited except McMahon cussing a few times.
SMH
Burying Punk, burying Bryan, burying a ton more people... Hell, he is even burying Ryder of all people.
Just look at your own example of Cesaro, he was giant swinging his way to the top and because Vince and his men decided, "no, we need him as a heel" he is now "lacking charisma, can't talk well, maybe because he's Swiss."
Simply Sami
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To be fair I don't see many good workers in WWE like in the 90s. A lot of them are poor on the mic like Bryan. Or just have boring matches like Wyatt.
People saying they buried Bryan? Didn't they have him beat Triple H and then beat Orton/Batista in one night?
Also Zach Ryder was awful. Why am I supposed to take him seriously? Because he had a hit youtube show. Can't cut a promo and certainly can't wrestler.
People saying they buried Bryan? Didn't they have him beat Triple H and then beat Orton/Batista in one night?
Also Zach Ryder was awful. Why am I supposed to take him seriously? Because he had a hit youtube show. Can't cut a promo and certainly can't wrestler.
None of this has any relation to McMahon's claim that nobody has tried to reach for the brass ring.
There should not be a "THE" top guy, there should be a Rock and a Stone Cold, a Goldberg and a Sting, an Undertaker and a Shawn Michaels.
So, there shouldn't just be Cena or someone else, there should be Cena AND whoever the fuck.
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