Street Fighter 5 for PS4 & PC teaser trailer

Miles Quaritch said:
I wouldn't put them on equal footing. One is a relatively successful IP that hasn't really sold more than 1-2m each iteration and the other is fucking Street Fighter.

This smells of paying to keep it off X1 rather than funding development.
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Uh, what?

Tomb Raider 2013 has sold over 6.5 million units, including the definitive edition.

http://press.na.square-enix.com/releases/277/crystal-dynamics-unveils-rise-of-the-tomb-raider
"TOMB RAIDER, released March 5, 2013 has received over 70 “Best of” nominations and is the fastest selling game in the history of the franchise with more than 6.5 million units sold."

Not sure how you think Street Fighter is a bigger deal than Tomb Raider.

EDIT: Oops, disregard, I thought you were comparing this deal to the TR deal, not DR3
 
MormaPope said:
Anyone that doubts Capcom didn't have the money to make SFV are being naive and/or foolish. Dragon's Dogma underperformed for them, DmC underperformed, Lost Planet 3 bombed, Remember Me bombed, RE6 cost them a shitload of money to develop. Capcom took huge hits during the end of last gen.

Street Fighter and Monster Hunter were the most consistent money makers for them last gen.
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One got moneyhatted by Nintendo, the other by Sony so...
 
gundamkyoukai said:
Bruce Sony is not broke i mean they spending millions on making games .
Maybe the fail with FF because the asking price was to much and they had less to gain don't mean it same way with every game.
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True but there is no precedent that shows thats how their financial decisions are governed.
They could have done so with the PS3 when they would really need it but it never seemed like an option to them.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
The only reason I question the validity to that is how could Sony possibly afford to do that. It just doesn't seem realistic. Sony's method has always been through development. They tried desperately to do it with FFXV and it didn't work out. I don't give them the benefit of the doubt because I think they are any better than MS I just don't believe they could foot the bill.
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I've never bought into the idea that Sony is so poor they couldn't afford to buy exclusivity. It was always a matter of the right game at the right time, never about them not having the money to do it.

Having said that, I believe you. You haven't been wrong yet, so I'll concede that it might not be the scummy and disgusting tactic of paying to keep the game off other platform/s that I initially thought it would be.

What's weird is that they can afford to do Deep Down, RER2, REmake HD and possibly DD Online and yet SF5 was seemingly going to be left out in the cold unless someone else funded it?

That's just weird.

So who is publishing the game? Sony? Capcom?
 
Coulomb_Barrier said:
It's not hard to see the difference. PS4 is the market leader with a 14-15m install base. If any console exclusivity makes sense, it does for the PS4.

Denying the majority of gamers by putting games exclusively on consoles with smaller userbases is also obviously gonna cause a storm as more people are denied the game and pissed off.
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Are you implying that Nintendo moneyhatted Bayo 2 in order to make it exclusive to themselves? Do you still at the late stage not understand that Bayo 2 only existed because Nintendo stepped in?

Please tell me I'm misunderstanding your post.
 
MormaPope said:
Anyone that doubts Capcom didn't have the money to make SFV are being naive and/or foolish. Dragon's Dogma underperformed for them, DmC underperformed, Lost Planet 3 bombed, Remember Me bombed, RE6 cost them a shitload of money to develop. Capcom took huge hits during the end of last gen.

Street Fighter and Monster Hunter were the most consistent money makers for them last gen.
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Even there mobile games underperformed.
 
Dubz said:
Better than re invigorating the entire FG scene, and becoming the most popular FG in the world?
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1. It didn't reinvigorate the fighting game scene, its always been there, it only made Street Fighter and Capcom relevant again.

2. Being popular doesn't mean it's a great fighting game. Hell being popular doesn't mean a game is great in general. Especially when fighting games aren't much of an accessible genre.

Not saying that IV is the worst fighting game in the world but in the main entries excluding One, it easily ranks last, >in my opinion.<
 
I don't know why there is any doubt it's PS4 exclusive. It says so at the end of the commercial! If it wasn't exclusive it just wouldn't say anything at all like those Square trailers during Sony's 2013 E3 conference.
 
MormaPope said:
Anyone that doubts Capcom didn't have the money to make SFV are being naive and/or foolish. Dragon's Dogma underperformed for them, DmC underperformed, Lost Planet 3 bombed, Remember Me bombed, RE6 cost them a shitload of money to develop. Capcom took huge hits during the end of last gen.

Street Fighter and Monster Hunter were the most consistent money makers for them last gen.
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Wait a second. You're saying Capcom does have money to fund SF V, but then list their failures last gen? If anything, that would support the theory that they didn't want to fund it themselves.
 
The more I think about it, the more I think an F2P KI style model for SF5 could be good.

$40 for 16 characters with DLC costumes and classic games like ST and/or Alpha series with online play wouldn't be too bad. Assuming they went the same route as KI.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
True but there is no precedent that shows thats how their financial decisions are governed.
They could have done so with the PS3 when they would really need it but it never seemed like an option to them.
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Maybe it's cheaper and easier now since they're so far ahead of their competitor
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
True but there is no precedent that shows thats how their financial decisions are governed.
They could have done so with the PS3 when they would really need it but it never seemed like an option to them.
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Btw, I was under the impression that dead rising 3 was still on the table (as a lower budget sequel obviously), just that Microsoft's co marketing agreement made it a timed get until the pc version surfaced.
 
Gambit 1138 said:
I don't know why there is any doubt it's PS4 exclusive. It says so at the end of the commercial! If it wasn't exclusive it just wouldn't say anything at all like those Square trailers during Sony's 2013 E3 conference.
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I don't think theres doubt about that. People just want to know the details of the exclusivity.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
True but there is no precedent that shows thats how their financial decisions are governed.
They could have done so with the PS3 when they would really need it but it never seemed like an option to them.
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The is more growth\ money to get from PS4 than PS3 Bruce.
Sony even talk about it recently getting more people to sign up for PS+ with hardcore games.
This going to make PS4 the default fighting game system and with that all those PS+ subs.
Plus it going to be cheaper for them this gen since they so far ahead WW.
 
Toki767 said:
Wait a second. You're saying Capcom does have money to fund SF V, but then list their failures last gen? If anything, that would support the theory that they didn't want to fund it themselves.
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No no no, I'm saying anyone that thinks they have the money to do so are being naive and/or foolish.
 
Miles Quaritch said:
I've never bought into the idea that Sony is so poor they couldn't afford to buy exclusivity. It was always a matter of the right game at the right time, never about them not having the money to do it.

Having said that, I believe you. You haven't been wrong yet, so I'll concede that it might not be the scummy and disgusting tactic of paying to keep the game off other platform/s that I initially thought it would be.

What's weird is that they can afford to do Deep Down, RER2, REmake HD and possibly DD Online and yet SF5 was seemingly going to be left out in the cold unless someone else funded it?

That's just weird.
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Maybe Sony is helping with their whole tech pipeline. Your right though its pretty crazy.
I'm not saying its definitely true it just seems like an odd thing for them to spend the money on. Even though I think what MS did with TR was a deplorable action it at least makes sense to me. They need something to combat UC4 in the fall problem solved. Why spend the money to keep SF exclusive? Why? Its not like Killer Instinct was a massive success. It just seems more like a golden opportunity that worked out for both Sony and Capcom.

but...
I could be wrong and it would be completely hypocritical for me to denounce MS and their actions with TR and not do the same with Sony if its a similar situation.
 
Rembrandt said:
Didn't all iterations of IV sell 8 million?



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This tweet? If so, no, he didn't.
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Its funny how everyone believes everything devs say. Stop assuming this is factual, it looks like when this tweet went out that production on SF5 was already in the process. Its just a way to deter fans and keep things where they need to be. Street Fighter is one of the biggest IPs in gaming, of course SF5 was coming. It was a question of when not if and today we got our answer.

F2P for Street Fighter 5 isnt going to happen.
 
Amentallica said:
I'm out of the loop with this. Do you message random users with the information the user provides you so that you validate him/her?
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Yeah I want a behind the scenes documentary on this whole process, sounds interesting

Like does bish have a machine he cross checks employee data bases??
 
Miles Quaritch said:
I've never bought into the idea that Sony is so poor they couldn't afford to buy exclusivity. It was always a matter of the right game at the right time, never about them not having the money to do it.

Having said that, I believe you. You haven't been wrong yet, so I'll concede that it might not be the scummy and disgusting tactic of paying to keep the game off other platform/s that I initially thought it would be.

What's weird is that they can afford to do Deep Down, RER2, REmake HD and possibly DD Online and yet SF5 was seemingly going to be left out in the cold unless someone else funded it?

That's just weird.

So who is publishing the game? Sony? Capcom?
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Well Deep Down is co-developed with Japan Studio, REmake HD is just a cheap HD up port and RER2 is episodic so I would say that it doesn't struck me has weird with what Capcom is currently doing. And let's not forget Dead Rising 3 and that they wouldn't localize MH4 ultimate in the west so Nintendo had to do it.
 
squadr0n said:
Christ another Street Fighter!?
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How 'another'? It's been 5 years since SFIV came out. Granted they have released Super, AE and Ultra, but all of these are expansions/updates (which is much appreciated support), and it's about time they bring a totally new SF.
 
fader said:
not weird, just poor and run by questionable management.
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True enough.

It's still just weird to me that Capcom needs outside funding for Street Fighter of all things.

I suppose Dead Rising is a more borderline IP but the whole Street Fighter thing just confuses me considering it's one of their biggest ones. Maybe Capcom just thinks that getting console makers to fund their games is the best way they'll recover from their financial issues. I don't know.
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
Maybe Sony is helping with their whole tech pipeline. Your right though its pretty crazy.

I'm not saying its definitely true it just seems like an odd thing for them to spend the money on. Even though I think what MS did with TR was a deplorable action it at least makes sense to me. They need something to combat UC4 in the fall problem solved. Why spend the money to keep SF exclusive? Why? Its not like Killer Instinct was a massive success. It just seems more like a golden opportunity that worked out for both Sony and Capcom.

but...
I could be wrong and it would be completely hypocritical for me to denounce MS and their actions with TR and not do the same with Sony if its a similar situation.
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Aren't they working together on the Phanta Rhei engine or whatever it's called? Perhaps it's not as crazy if that's taken into account as well.

Good decision by Sony to swoop in and fund this though. SF is still pretty big in the competitive scene, could see this being a pretty big boon for Sony going forward...
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
Maybe Sony is helping with their whole tech pipeline. Your right though its pretty crazy.
I'm not saying its definitely true it just seems like an odd thing for them to spend the money on. Even though I think what MS did with TR was a deplorable action it at least makes sense to me. They need something to combat UC4 in the fall problem solved. Why spend the money to keep SF exclusive? Why? Its not like Killer Instinct was a massive success. It just seems more like a golden opportunity that worked out for both Sony and Capcom.

but...
I could be wrong and it would be completely hypocritical for me to denounce MS and their actions with TR and not do the same with Sony if its a similar situation.
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KI was never near SF sales wise and they spend money on SF to get PS+ subs.
 
Kimosabae said:
What??

Ryse??
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Which came out after.

PC ports that come out after games take minimal cost. As you saw with Sony and Double Fine and Grim Fandango, there isn't some anti-PC sentiment there.

That said, if this WAS considerably funded by Sony, they would be trumpeting that. This just seems like a business decision that Capcom made.
 
What I get from this is that Capcom is so poor/scared that they can't publish anything major without support from another company.
 
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