ReyVGM
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Yeah, but this is a Zelda thread.
Legend of Zelda Wii U Gameplay Demo
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Yeah, but this is a Zelda thread.
Interframe
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Is it just me, or does the artstyle kind of look like the artstyle/graphics of the Fable series? I don't think theirs anything wrong with that, always loved the way the Fable games looked.
I've seen them give credit to gaf members in both smash videos and hyrule warriors videos. It's also not hard to imagine they came to the same conclusions as other people at the same time while scouring the video.
Arwings were in ocarina of time.
Triforce of the Gods 3
Hummm actually not bad, I like it.Zeruda no Densetsu: Mononoke no Mori (ゼルダの伝説　～物の怪の森～
The Legend of Zelda: Specter's Forest
Kissenkopf
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Legend of Zelda: Flowers Vanish
Loved the gameplay footage they showed off. Still surprised they were willing to show if off but extremely glad they did. From the art style and scale of the world and locations I enjoyed it all.
With an open world though comes the sections where you are alone and that just something that is always going to be. Unless you pull an Assassin's Creed Unity and stay in one city with thousands of unless npcs that fill the background. However I don't doubt there will be plenty of wildlife and enemies as you travel around. With more power I expect we'll have more more out in the wild but that's largely dictated by the story of the game. Speaking of that I think sometimes people keep forgetting that Hyrule Field in games isn't the over world. It isn't the thing people should be just comparing here. Sadly it's what some people think about when they say Zelda over worlds are empty. I say anything that isn't a dungeon is the over world and should be looked at collectively.
Let's take OoT for example. There was Hyrule Field with Lon Lon Ranch. That's not the over world. That's one area of it that happens to be in the center. I think people look at the game and even the other games like this and wrongly feel the world is empty. There was the Kakariko Village. What people forget is that there were three more villages in that game. Zora Domain, Kokiri Forest (where you start the game), and Goron City. What Nintendo needs to do is make the various areas where NPCs will be found matter more. Have more then just a single store to buy items. Have them be more then simply quest locations that you likely never have to visit again. More then a simple base of operations for the nearby dungeon.
As for traveling I can easily picture coming across caves where you have to solve puzzles or explore an area to get a heart piece, chest with money, or some other collectable. Just like other Zelda games or other open world games. Question will be will there be side quest off the beaten path or quest lines ala Elder Scrolls or Fallout that you can come across in the middle of nowhere and not just from people in towns. That would be nice.
Speaking of which those games have open worlds where when you are traveling in the wild you are alone. There is a LOT of copied assets. That's almost a must for open worlds I think or the cost skyrockets if everything single thing is unique. It's not like that hasn't happen in past Zelda games either. I think back to playing those games and then look at the Zelda footage and even past Zelda games and I don't think what is being done with Zelda is so different. So I really do not understand the complaining of some people. Especially if they claim to be Zelda fans of fans of Nintendo and should know full well that games they show off always improve before release.
With an open world though comes the sections where you are alone and that just something that is always going to be. Unless you pull an Assassin's Creed Unity and stay in one city with thousands of unless npcs that fill the background. However I don't doubt there will be plenty of wildlife and enemies as you travel around. With more power I expect we'll have more more out in the wild but that's largely dictated by the story of the game. Speaking of that I think sometimes people keep forgetting that Hyrule Field in games isn't the over world. It isn't the thing people should be just comparing here. Sadly it's what some people think about when they say Zelda over worlds are empty. I say anything that isn't a dungeon is the over world and should be looked at collectively.
Let's take OoT for example. There was Hyrule Field with Lon Lon Ranch. That's not the over world. That's one area of it that happens to be in the center. I think people look at the game and even the other games like this and wrongly feel the world is empty. There was the Kakariko Village. What people forget is that there were three more villages in that game. Zora Domain, Kokiri Forest (where you start the game), and Goron City. What Nintendo needs to do is make the various areas where NPCs will be found matter more. Have more then just a single store to buy items. Have them be more then simply quest locations that you likely never have to visit again. More then a simple base of operations for the nearby dungeon.
As for traveling I can easily picture coming across caves where you have to solve puzzles or explore an area to get a heart piece, chest with money, or some other collectable. Just like other Zelda games or other open world games. Question will be will there be side quest off the beaten path or quest lines ala Elder Scrolls or Fallout that you can come across in the middle of nowhere and not just from people in towns. That would be nice.
Speaking of which those games have open worlds where when you are traveling in the wild you are alone. There is a LOT of copied assets. That's almost a must for open worlds I think or the cost skyrockets if everything single thing is unique. It's not like that hasn't happen in past Zelda games either. I think back to playing those games and then look at the Zelda footage and even past Zelda games and I don't think what is being done with Zelda is so different. So I really do not understand the complaining of some people. Especially if they claim to be Zelda fans of fans of Nintendo and should know full well that games they show off always improve before release.
Legend of Zelda: Flowers were there the whole time, they were just kinda difficult to see in off-screen footage. Also it's only one small segment of the world that may have different flora from the segment in the E3 reveal.
I don't think it's dragon wings. I think it's just a mountain in the far background, behind the half-dome rock, which has some snowy patches on it.
Perfect.
TheMoon
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To the people thinking about co-op: If you think about it for a second, it's pretty clearly not happening and we already know why. The slow-mo jump. You can't do co-op when one player can slow down time during combat. Max Payne 3 barely made it work in a competitive multiplayer setting. Let this one go, we can scratch that off the list with 100% certainty.
Like I said, theremin
I wouldn't be shocked if they have an "uncut" version of this recording lined up for their next Direct. Not saying it's likely since the reasons for cutting might just be them cutting out major glitches/bugs or spoiler content not reads to be revealed.
Don't expect an actual new trailer before E3. Best you can hope for is Aonuma posting on Miiverse and maybe an uncut version of this Let's Play.
You will not be hunting animals in a Zelda game, dude. Get a grip, man!
ZELDA GAME
HUNTING ANIMALS
NOT HAPPENING!
Yup they never said. But it's definitely not Aonuma since he hasn't directed a game since jumping into the seat again halfway through the development of TP. Aonuma is a project producer, not a director.
Like I said, theremin
I wouldn't be shocked if they have an "uncut" version of this recording lined up for their next Direct. Not saying it's likely since the reasons for cutting might just be them cutting out major glitches/bugs or spoiler content not reads to be revealed.
Don't expect an actual new trailer before E3. Best you can hope for is Aonuma posting on Miiverse and maybe an uncut version of this Let's Play.
You will not be hunting animals in a Zelda game, dude. Get a grip, man!
ZELDA GAME
HUNTING ANIMALS
NOT HAPPENING!
Yup they never said. But it's definitely not Aonuma since he hasn't directed a game since jumping into the seat again halfway through the development of TP. Aonuma is a project producer, not a director.
hmm saw this on my twitter feed .probably posted already but
..i don't see it Lol
Kissenkopf
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I was joking. o_o"
TheMoon
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LegendofLex
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TheMoon
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Something else to consider (people really forget a lot of the things Aonuma already said about the game) // not related to "play alone/co-op" (!)
Giant Bomb interview said:
LegendofLex
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^ TBH, I actually think that comment has more to do with the idea of emergent events. To use an example that reflects what we've seen so far, let's think about that giant monster from the first trailer. Normally, if it spots you it'll give chase, and you'll have to frantically come up with (and execute) a tactic for defeating it. But maybe the first time you encounter it, you manage to avoid being detected and keep your distance. But if you don't kill it immediately, it will go on to cause havoc somewhere.
That sounds like the kind of dynamic he's talking about.
That sounds like the kind of dynamic he's talking about.
TheMoon
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Yea and that's what I meant. Wasn't related to the co-op topic.
Fantastical
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Did you guys see the framerate when he jumped off the horse? It was like it was in slow motion.
LegendofLex
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Yeah, I just saw your comment - originally had just read the two quotes. I vaguely remember Aonuma saying something similar when they first introduced co-op, too, actually. Wish I knew where.
ReyVGM
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That's because they used the Arwing's movements as a template for how Volvagia was going to move. And since deleting stuff can cause issues, they just left the Arwing in which was the found by hackers.
It does not mean Star Fox and Zelda are connected.
TheMoon
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Your post almost sounds like you're not joking?
I edited that comment in
LegendofLex
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Solid SOAP
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So... what does everyone think the towns will be like in this game? Open to the rest of the world ala Morrowind, or closed off sections like traditional Zelda/Oblivion? I would love it if they managed to pull off a completely open world with buildings you can enter being the only loading points. Being able to drop down from a mountain and land in a town would be amazing.
darkstar0155
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not to derail the thread.. but i have a friend whos played and loved every zelda since OoT and says he refuses to play this if there isnt voice acting.. makes me both roll my eyes and and cry inside lol
=O
For a minute, I forgot how fine Brooke actually is.
TheMoon
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I think there might be small settlements along the way without loading and the larger towns like Kakariko and Castle Town are sectioned off. I would think they hide that behind streaming, similar to Wind Waker. Notice how you never load into anything there either. It's all streamed. Xenoblade X is doing that, too. As did Xenoblade on Wii. Don't see why Zelda U wouldn't be able to either. Only caviat is that they limit the entry points via natural borders so you can't drop into a town from anywhere to facilitate clear streaming zones.
HOW COULD YOU FORGET!
Slap your friend with a wet, old sock. Maybe they'll come to their senses.
darkstar0155
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Right! He plays mostly GTA, Gears, Halo, etc, and says if they can do it N should too (not going to get into that discussion), and that hes not reading text in another 70 hour game.
I wasn't. That's my prediction for the full title of the game.
YatÅkiri_Kilgharrah
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Actually that isnt why at all. Aonuma just did something very stupid with those dungeons
peanutbutterlatte
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He doesn't deserve the game.
James Scott
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There really should be voice acting by now. I hope so, at least
darkstar0155
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i agree (all but link), but to not play the game soley because of that is crazy imo
As long as this game is all control based, and not gimmicky like the wiiU version. Skyward Sword. Just could not get into it, and i love TLoZ games.
Apart from that, the game looks pretty cool. Love the art style, and i am not worried about this looking empty. This is still pretty early in development.
Apart from that, the game looks pretty cool. Love the art style, and i am not worried about this looking empty. This is still pretty early in development.
MisterGrey3000
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Starting the game off with a few basic earthly items like the slingshot, whip, and bombs actually isn't a bad idea.
While I'll still morn the loss of SS's fantastic dungeon-like overworld element I'd at least be secure in the fact that starting off with a limited number of "vanilla" items could potentially allow EAD3 to retain level/dungeon design complexity from the get-go even if it's possible to tackle any dungeon in any order.
Though tbh, I'd prefer to have a tightly structured game for at least 3 or 4 dungeons. I don't want any contextless zelda 1 bullshit.
Edit: I just hope EAD3 realized that openess in modern Zelda's level structure can really harm the general dungeon design. If they give me a sign that this is the case I'll stop worrying.
James Scott
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Yep, the "choose the order of the dungeons" is kind of a dumb thing people got behind IMO. It only really matters to mix up replays, but if all the dungeons are available at the start then the dungeons can't be too hard and the dungeons can't use more items for their puzzles which limits what they can do.
There could be a way to fix it like Ravio's shop, but with how big the world is, going from where you need an item to the shop would be kind of annoying unless they give you all the items at the start which would be admittedly cool (but that's another problem by itself).
And people chanting for a big non linear world are likely now complaining that there wasn't something big happening in ever second of that Zelda U footage
I think they can give him a voice too. Their work around in Hyrule Warriors was just silly.
LegendofLex
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Excuse me? Try playing Level 6 first in the original game, then we can talk about whether non-linearity means anything. Just because they completely missed the opportunity to get it right with ALBW doesn't make it a bad idea.
PooBone
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Has this been confirmed???????
I think the dungeons need some sort of order. Either that or just make some difficult and say, "yeah you can do dungeons in any order, but if you haven't found the item somewhere else, or if you don't have many hearts, some are gonna be too hard/impossible to complete."
But we definitely need some of the more basic items in our inventory from the start. Sword, shield, bow, and bombs at least. It's not fun to find these in dungeons anymore since they're in every game. And get rid of the slingshot. It's redundant.
But we definitely need some of the more basic items in our inventory from the start. Sword, shield, bow, and bombs at least. It's not fun to find these in dungeons anymore since they're in every game. And get rid of the slingshot. It's redundant.
Ganondorfo
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Do you think Koji Kondo will compose again for this Zelda game, or will it be done by the Mario Galaxy composer? I think that music is very important to this franchise and hope they will create memorable music (offcourse its difficult these days, but I hope they will do the series justice in music).
BigEvilTurtle
Banned
I like the idea of some dungeons being inaccessible without a certain item, but conveying the information to the player naturally is the most important thing. No signs that say "you need a hook-shot"; just a natural says-it-all barrier.
PooBone
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Oh wow. Haha.
Glad I could add that to the fold. I think I was first anyway lol. Looks amazing.
TheMoon
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I think you need to rewatch this and read what he says there.
Follow that up by rewatching the TGA footage here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SECWlFInyFM&feature=player_detailpage#t=146
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