Zomba13
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She'll absorb or bend a spirit blast and then with the power of the Spirits combine together into giant spirit korra for Season 2 finale round 2.
Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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She'll absorb or bend a spirit blast and then with the power of the Spirits combine together into giant spirit korra for Season 2 finale round 2.
m_shortpants
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Oh, I wasn't arguing for depth. I've said it here that his motivation was botched by his ending. I was simply saying he was a far better villian for those reasons.
yeah, the show OFFICIALLY jumped the shark for me in a way that it hasnt done any time prior with the reveal of the robot. even book 2's giant spirit things can be handwaved away with the fact that it's spirit voodoo trash, but there's no way i can wrap my head around the idea of a giant bipedal mech with a laser on... its arm? this is what the earth empire made as its super weapon. this robot. like it doesnt even make sense. they didnt even put the laser in its chest or on its head. its on the robots arm. and the robot reaches up to its arm with its other arm to stabilize its shot. like Samus Aran. or Megaman. like????????????????????????? i dont get it.
Admiral Woofington
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I think that after the season is over we should be taking votes to rank the entire series, including AtLA, in order. Mine right now is:
AtlA S2
AtlA S3
Korra S3
Korra S4
AtlA S1
Korra S1
Korra S2
AtlA S2
AtlA S3
Korra S3
Korra S4
AtlA S1
Korra S1
Korra S2
I feel a bit like this. It just looks so spindly, like an air bison or a plane or even an Avatar State airbending to the head should send it toppling over.
And it just came out of nowhere. One minute the super weapon is on a train that looks a lot like WWII super heavy artillery, then suddenly out of nowhere there's this ridiculous giant robot.
Why wouldn't they make something like the Drill from ATLA instead?
The robot is the representation of the Earth Kingdom's might and Kuvira's indomitable will, facilitated through technology and spirit vines. It could have been any fucking thing, they just went with the coolest thing possible: giant fucking Gundam evangelion Iron Giant Lagaan robot.
Mike and Bryan have been sucking Evangelion's dick from day one, this is the only way it was gonna go.
Mike and Bryan have been sucking Evangelion's dick from day one, this is the only way it was gonna go.
m_shortpants
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This is what I'd expect Korra to look like when fighting a giant mech robot.
I'd probably say:
TLA S3
TLA S2
Korra S3
Korra S1
Beginnings
TLA S1
Korra S4
Korra S2 - Beginnings
Admiral Woofington
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My issue is the jump in technological advancement this season.
That's cool.
Only five days to go now till it finishes anyway unless it leaks ha. Biggest surprise is that we've had no major leaks this season. First season for Korra where an episode wasn't leaked.
JadedWriter
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So does this mean the spirits are going to shoot a mind rape laser at Kuvira?
NERD.
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80% of Korra's problems are Nick's fault. S2 undoing S1? Nick. S4 clipshow? Nick.
Admiral Woofington
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The clip show wasn't the reason S4 is weak. It's only adding to the issues.
m_shortpants
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Kuvira being a poor villain? BRYKE.
I feel like the cogs are starting to turn....
Am I really witnessing Toa TAK moving to acceptance??
Had to adjust to that budget.
Just seems like it has weak motivation.
episode 5 book 1 was Nick's fault? Korra being absolutely insufferable to watch in Book 2 was Nick's fault? Mako blackholing Lin and Asami's character development in Book 2 was Nick's fault? episode 7 of Book 3 existing when we had no character development for the Red Lotus was Nick's fault? book 4 being basic was Nick's fault? and i didnt even mention the rest! we can't keep pinning blame on Nick when we actually have people that are involved in the writing that are at fault.
I think that the reason that S4 is weak is because they realize that nick absolutely doesn't give a fuck about Korra. And when your bosses barely care? Welp. I don't think they are motivated about Korra anymore, so yeah, I blame a lot of this on Nick. I think if they had gotten the support of ATLA or even S1 Korra (and if they had planned for long form story arcs instead of this one and done bullshit), then it would have been a much better show.
- Second half of Earth
- Second half of Fire
- First half of Earth
- Second half of Water
- Change
- First half of Fire
- First half of Water
- Air
- Balance
- Literally anything
- Spirits
Admiral Woofington
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i feel like I'm alone in the fanbase in my love of the beach party and the 'clips' episode of the season.
Satch still being salty about the airbender episode in book 3 is my favorite thing, lol
Also, AtLA got fucked around too. Nick doesn't know what it's doing, but the production side of things wasn't too horribly managed. Most of the problems with Korra, as a narrative, is strongly due to the creators of the show.
Not at all. Those "filler" episodes are largely why atla is so good. The Beach is a fantastic episode.
Also, AtLA got fucked around too. Nick doesn't know what it's doing, but the production side of things wasn't too horribly managed. Most of the problems with Korra, as a narrative, is strongly due to the creators of the show.
Not at all. Those "filler" episodes are largely why atla is so good. The Beach is a fantastic episode.
JadedWriter
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Why would anybody hate the beach episode when it gave us moments of Azula being just a regular socially awkward human being?
Slamtastic
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- Earth
- Fire
- Water
- Change
- Balance
- Air
- Spirits
Honestly, those are the most memorable episodes of that whole show for me. =\ Love them.
Admiral Woofington
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Well apparently I'm not as alone as I thought I was. I remember mentioning my love for the episodes once and the only reply I got was "those episodes are hated by the fanbase"
Not alone, I love them too. The Beach and Ember Island Players. In fact, I've noticed that some of my favorite episodes from ATLA aren't favorites for many here. I love the Avatar and the Fire Lord, The Headband, The Beach, and plenty of others from Book 3, although I agree that Book 2 overall is a more cohesive season.
I was late to the ATLA bandwagon, so I only got to watch the second half of the final season live on TV, plus the finale, back in 2008.
This is where I kind-of confirm that it's better sometimes to watch a series all at once. I still don't get exactly why some people don't like ATLA Season 3 as much, although it has to do something with the expectations of it being the final season and maybe episodes like Ember Island Players and The Beach don't fit with those.
I know most do like those episodes, but I too was surprised by the time I really joined the Avatar fandom a couple of years ago that people didn't like them as much.
I think a lot of this will also happen with LoK. Book 2 will never be as good as the rest of the Avatar Series, but people who just started to watch it don't "hate" it as much as some of us long term fans do, I've noticed, and I've grown to like a lot of the things that Book introduced, despite the flaws in the writing. Even people have watch ATLA, fall in love with it, and watch LoK don't have that much of a negative opinion about it as a lot here on NeoGAF or other forums do.
uh no theyre not
the fanbase loves those episodes. somebody lied to you.
ppl were frustrated when they first came out because they were taking too long to get to the end but pretty much everybody loves them now.
I've never gotten that impression.
"The Great Divide" is the one that everyone thinks is terrible.
I personally disliked "The Fortuneteller" and "Avatar Day".
Admiral Woofington
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you just reminded me that things such as swamp bending exist. That used to be the show's version of giant anime creatures.
If they wanted to go for nonsense plot they should have just had everything that made Korra the avatar taken from her and Kuvira become the avatar for a majority of the season after stealing her powers. I know this has happened in an anime before but I can't think of what it is from
arent you???????????? its an episode about Tenzin being shit and Kai saving Jinora
who wants to see that?????????????????????????????????????????? we could have had P'Li and Ming-Hua doing something iconic but its wasted on fucking Tenshit and Kai
AtLA season 3 was great because it focused on likable characters interacting with one another. The whole season is a denouement, tying up loose ends (except Zuko's mother LOL) and solidifying character arcs. Everything was more or less set up as much as it was going to be in Book 2's finale, since the final confrontation was on a hard time limit.
With the linear plot mostly spoken for, and decidedly less interesting than these characters we see on screen, we get some of the best storylines of avatar:
Aang getting to be a kid again and not simply the Avatar, showing that the fire nation isn't merely a monolithic, evil empire; it has kids in it. Aang gets to teach them how to be "free" through dance, which speaks to his general disposition as a fun loving, peaceful dude.
Katara getting told about herself, as she assumes the mother role of the group and it gets on people's nerves. She feels as though she has to protect everyone, because she couldn't protect her mother and her village.
Sokka getting an episode that would prove to be the precursor to Korra season 1, feeling (rightfully) like a chump because he is nowhere near as powerful as the rest of the gang.
Zuko shows his angst and Azula reveals her insecurities. It's the first real time her even, precise disposition falters and you see what drives her - she has to be perfect to get respect. This foreshadows her breakdown in the finale.
All of this coalesces into the Zuko and gang character synergy boss rush episodes, which are all fantastic. All of this is "filler," as detractors define the word. And it's all top tier avatar stuff.
With the linear plot mostly spoken for, and decidedly less interesting than these characters we see on screen, we get some of the best storylines of avatar:
Aang getting to be a kid again and not simply the Avatar, showing that the fire nation isn't merely a monolithic, evil empire; it has kids in it. Aang gets to teach them how to be "free" through dance, which speaks to his general disposition as a fun loving, peaceful dude.
Katara getting told about herself, as she assumes the mother role of the group and it gets on people's nerves. She feels as though she has to protect everyone, because she couldn't protect her mother and her village.
Sokka getting an episode that would prove to be the precursor to Korra season 1, feeling (rightfully) like a chump because he is nowhere near as powerful as the rest of the gang.
Zuko shows his angst and Azula reveals her insecurities. It's the first real time her even, precise disposition falters and you see what drives her - she has to be perfect to get respect. This foreshadows her breakdown in the finale.
All of this coalesces into the Zuko and gang character synergy boss rush episodes, which are all fantastic. All of this is "filler," as detractors define the word. And it's all top tier avatar stuff.
And_Gignac
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The driller in ATLA would be just as "dumb" and "unrealistic" going by the critics of Gundam Kuvira. The robot is coherent with the scientific progresses shown in Korra since day one.
People just want yet another reason to hate the superior show.
Korra S1 >>> Korra S4 >>>> AtlA S3 >>>> Korra S3 >>> the rest.
People just want yet another reason to hate the superior show.
Korra S1 >>> Korra S4 >>>> AtlA S3 >>>> Korra S3 >>> the rest.
Yeah. Ozai was a trash villain, Aang's entire dilemma makes him unsympathetic, energy bending was one hell of a worthless deus ex machina, and the one thing that saved the world was a convenient rock hitting Aang's back.
I like everything else about the finale. I like Azula's breakdown, the zeppelin fleet battle, Zuko and Azula's Agni Kai. I just hated everything around Aang and Ozai, because it's clear the writers wrote themselves into corners.The entire scene where Aang is trying to energy-bend Ozai looks gorgeous and has zero tension.
Also, no Toph-centric episode in Book 3 (The Runaway barely counts) was pretty bad.
You forgot Toph. Season 3 basically dropped Toph like a sack of potatoes. The writers even make a joke about how she got no character development when she was upset she didn't go on a life-changing journey with Zuko. Asami got more development than Toph got in all of Book 3 of TLA.
m_shortpants
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The driller in ATLA would be just as "dumb" and "unrealistic" going by the critics of Gundam Kuvira. The robot is coherent with the scientific progresses shown in Korra since day one.
People just want yet another reason to hate the superior show.
Nah. TLA had the steampunk vibe from the beginning. Blimps, ships, even the drill worked. The weirdest thing in TLA were the tank things from the day of black sun episode.
Like I've said multiple times, 3 years ago in Korra time BIPLANES had just been invented. We went from BIPLANES and basic cars to GUNDAMs that shoot LASERS! I don't think that fits with scientific progress at all, unless they have spiral power.
Sick.
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