That would be amazing. We already have giant spirits and robots, throw aliens into the mix.
Lol I'm just sayin.
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Why is it a problem? If her feelings for Sokka were substantial, then yeah, she got thrown under the bus. But there isn't any indication of that. She got that one throwaway joke and it was basically never brought up again. The next time romance for her comes up, she's clinging to Zuko. Plus her dialogue in Tales of Ba Sing Se implied that she was more concerned with the general idea of a romance and being attractive than anyone specific.
To me, this just characterized her as flirty, in her own tomboyish way. She had small crushes, but they weren't meaningful in any way, so they died pretty quick. I have no objection to that being used as a basis for a throwaway joke.
One can complain when it looks silly/hokey.
But yeah, you can't complain about its existence (unless it completely doesn't match up with the time piece by like a large margin).
having a villian per season was a mistake
they should keep amon as the main villain and use the Benders vs NonBenders plot in a global scale
The reason that the last airbender was soo good (at least for me)
is that was a journey, They traveled around the world, meeting beautiful places, different cultures and people
and of course the characters, they grown up, madured even the side characters
Fu*k republic city
they should keep amon as the main villain and use the Benders vs NonBenders plot in a global scale
The reason that the last airbender was soo good (at least for me)
is that was a journey, They traveled around the world, meeting beautiful places, different cultures and people
and of course the characters, they grown up, madured even the side characters
Fu*k republic city
JadedWriter
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This really does explain why she has two daughters with two different men and was most likely never married.
m_shortpants
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They could've done the entire first season just focusing on the gangs and criminal activity.
That's honestly where I thought the series was going to go, judging from the first 1-2 episodes of book one. Ugh, the fact that Nick signed them for only 1 series fucked up the writing so bad. It doesn't excuse Bryke for choosing to do single season arcs though. I thought that was fucking stupid for 12-13 23 minute episodes.
Yeah, but that would involve making LoK a canonical part of TLA instead of the glorified fanfiction that it is, so I'm just sticking to the TLA characterizations.
don't listen to these infidels.
Wonder what the world of Avatar Coop would be?
i would have been less annoyed with a giant robot if it wasnt designed to look like a person
like what the fuck, just make a big ass tank thing
i cant get over them putting the gun on its arm instead of in the chest. i literally dont understand the thought process. in book 2 the giant spirits should have shot beams out of their hands, not out of their chests. and then they get a giant robot and put the laser on its arm instead of the chest. why does this bother me SO MUCH.
like what the fuck, just make a big ass tank thing
i cant get over them putting the gun on its arm instead of in the chest. i literally dont understand the thought process. in book 2 the giant spirits should have shot beams out of their hands, not out of their chests. and then they get a giant robot and put the laser on its arm instead of the chest. why does this bother me SO MUCH.
What one throwaway joke? It wasn't just once. It was brought up several times in Book 3. They teased it from Book 2 throughout the middle of Book 3 then abruptly dropped it.
Out of the group, Sokka was probably her closest companion. To say that it was just a shallow crush is disingenuous to her character as Sokka was Toph's only love interest throughout the entirety of A:TLA.
JadedWriter
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Wow, I should look out for this when I watch ATLA again. Sounds like it's one of those unrequited love friendship scenarios because she got benched for Suki. Ouch.
As I recall, there were two ship tease moments. The Suki rescue, and the part where he gave her a piece of meteor in which he made his sword.
I don't remember anything else. They had other moments, like when he told her about his mother and how Katara had taken her place, but I feel that'd be reaching to call it a romantic moment between them. That came off as a moment of friendship and family to me more than anything.
What are the moments of romance you are referring to?
Yeah, I just don't understand.
Obviously it isn't, but knowing there would be a crossing of fans it's just so odd how they handled it.
It would at least be one thing if the design wasn't shit.
Yep, chest would be better cause as it is they only need to take out the arm.
What show were you watching?
"I don't know. They missed you or something. I didn't care." - Toph
We really needed more moments like this in Legend of Korra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aDcWucKFjA
This seems random as hell, a scene like this really shows how the characters act and how much they have grown without spending a lot of time on it.
We really don't get a heavy scene like this when someone tells someone else they are flat out wrong and it weighs heavy one someone. Anytime they have a chance to do this it's glossed over or forgotten about. (A really good moment could have happened in Season 2 with Korra, but not a single person calls her out on the shit she does)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aDcWucKFjA
This seems random as hell, a scene like this really shows how the characters act and how much they have grown without spending a lot of time on it.
We really don't get a heavy scene like this when someone tells someone else they are flat out wrong and it weighs heavy one someone. Anytime they have a chance to do this it's glossed over or forgotten about. (A really good moment could have happened in Season 2 with Korra, but not a single person calls her out on the shit she does)
We don't know but it is probably dead for good.
After how nick treated this series? I mean, two seasons right on top of each other, doubling up episodes, slashing the budget...
Admiral Woofington
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I'll argue till the day I die that Aang being a crappy dad came with the job.
What show were you watching?
"I don't know. They missed you or something. I didn't care." - Toph
Yeah, that's 1 of the 2 teases I did notice, as I just said in the post you quoted.
I'm asking for others. Because 2 teases does not a substantial romance make. That's a crush.
You said it happened throughout book 2 and 3. So you must have more moments to point out than the two I noticed. So what else is there?
Admiral Woofington
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yeah it was a crush that never went anywhere because Sokka had Suki. People get crushes all the time that go nowhere, they didn't have to act on the crush here.
m_shortpants
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Yeah DBZ gets a lot of flak for having a lot of filler and people just standing around thinking but it provides a lot background and exposition on characters you don't get otherwise. One of my favorite things in DBZ was seeing how other characters reacted to certain events.
I agree, he had to pass on his culture. I'd actually argue that Kya and Bumi may be unreliable narrators for that story.
Yeah, that's my interpretation as well. I think they'd be a good couple, moreso than Sokka and Suki, but they never happened to act on the spark of interest that was there. It wasn't bad writing or anything, it just happened to not work out that way, as it often does in real life.
But Kinvara seems convinced it was something more. I''m curious to see what her reasoning is.
She didn't need to end up with anyone. But I didn't really find it satisfying lol. Er. Well I mean the whole story of who the dad's were. In terms of like, where she is at in life, I guess?
She was kind of a really awful person. And even today she's a selfish and shitty person. But it was nice seeing her again. I dunno. I think I liked her actual scenes, quite a bit. I guess I felt overall, the whole Beifong stuff felt kind of rushed. But given like how little time they had for this stuff, I think it was the best we were going to get.
I still take issue with how they wrapped up the whole Su vs her mother/sister thing. I still find that absolutely dreadful.
JadedWriter
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Lol best one yet:
(She also considers that meteorite bracelet one of her most valuable possessions.)
Katara/Jet was a crush. Crushes = brief attraction based solely on physical attributes. Sokka and Toph's relationship is definitely more than that. This is not about Toph "getting with" anybody.
Toph clings to Sokka so much throughout the series literally. She's often shown holding onto him whenever they're riding Appa which is when she is absolutely helpless. (This is paralleled in the finale.) Sokka also has a deep admiration for her bending skill- particularly metalbending. He often forgets that she is disabled at all (except notably in the finale.) The mutual respect and trust they have for one another is the foundation for any healthy human relationship- romantic or otherwise.
Now, Toph as a character has a distinct unwillingness to allow herself to be viewed as vulnerable not only physically but emotionally as well. (Sokka being the exception.) This is what lead to problems with her own daughters (and more than likely her lovers.)
See, We got hints of that in "The Runaway" in regards to her parents but that didn't get fully resolved until The Rift. Having Toph admit to herself that she had feelings for Sokka and learning to love him even if she couldn't be involved romantically with him would have been an important part of her character development. We never got to see any of that. It was a missed opportunity.
She could be the reincarnation of Unalaq.
Also, Zhao was awful before his awesome speech in the finale; he was the chump who lost an Agni Kai to a teenager and then set his own ship on fire because he was too stupid to pay attention where he was shooting. Then the finale gave him that wonderful "I want to be a legend" motivation and suddenly he made sense. It's too bad he died right after he got some much needed character development.
Phoenician_Viking
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This is all kind of horrible. Although I think they should have saved Vato to the last season, since it's an "epic" good vs evil fight. Now the ending will always sound hollow since it's not the fate of the whole world that is in play now. The Red Lotus would have made a far better final villain because the repercussions of their actions, their motives and goals. Kuvira isn't a weak final villain in a sense her threat is just local while the other villains, except Amon, were global. He'll even Amon's goals, even if he was a hypocrite, had far bigger consequence than Kuvira's.Since you asked:
Toph and Sokka's relationship can be 'more than that' without being romantic in nature. It can even start with some romantic feelings on Toph's part and still evolve into a greater non-romantic relationship on its way. One of the reasons Toph is a fantastic character is, imo, precisely *because* she's not fridged into a relationship with Sokka as a lesser show (*cough*Korra*cough*) would have done. Toph does not need a romantic attachment to complete her character.
That was my entire point?
She starts off having a crush on him but learns to accept her feelings and love him even if she can't be in a relationship with him which leads to something a whole lot more powerful than just a "crush".
I never said they weren't close. Certainly, they are. What I don't see is how that closeness is distinctly romantic in nature. Things like Sokka respecting her bending are good, but not necessarily romantic, unless you are suggesting Sokka has feelings for Aang as well. The desire to be kissed by sokka, blushing at his presence, those things are distinctly romantic.
Sorry, but unless you have more scenes like that, I think you're projecting here. It's perfectly plausible she simply didn't have long term feelings for Sokka. I mean, sure, potentially, she did and kept kept them inside, but there really isn't any reason to believe that's the case. It's more likely she just got over the shallow crush, but still developed a strong friendship bond with him.
No, what he's saying is that the relationship they ended up getting is more powerful than just a crush. But it isn't romantic. That's what he's (and I) getting at.
Yep. Season 2 in general is so weird with how high the stakes are. You have these absurdly beautiful locales and a god of evil as the main villain (Shut up Unalaq), and it's sandwiched between more down-to-earth locations and villains.
SoulUnison
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>Written and produced by the original creators.
>"Glorified fan-fiction."
Hey, it's one thing to not like something, but that's just being delusional and sticking your head in the sand.
Admiral Woofington
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Lol best one yet:
On that day, benders received a grim reminder. We lived in fear of theBryke, and were disgraced to live in these cages we called bad writers.
It was a joke. Not really an appropriate one, I grant you, because I've read fanfiction that's superior to the show. The writers ought to be honored to have their creation compared to some of the things fans have produced. The point I was making though, the show sucks and isn't the canon continuation of TLA as far as I'm concerned. I don't really care who wrote or produced it. It's a shallow way of defining canon anyway, that's only really relevant in terms of legal ownership. Define canon by appropriateness, not origin.
m_shortpants
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After season 3 we had become too comfortable.
Christ, I don't see this much hate for Korra anywhere. Sure the show could be better, but I feel like the creators did a decent job with the budget and production hell they went through.
I'm enjoying Season 4. Not as much as 3, but the mech doesn't feel out of place considering the creativity that can go into metal bending.
I'm enjoying Season 4. Not as much as 3, but the mech doesn't feel out of place considering the creativity that can go into metal bending.
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don't see how any of this has to do with crap writting
anyway it's not that korra is that bad a show, but it just screams "wasted potential" to me
Phoenician_Viking
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No it is not a fine show. ATLA have build the world, the mythology, the philosophy of Korra. All Korra had to do is going into more depth. For instance book 2 spirit, should have been phenomenal, since spirits are such a big part of the universe, yet that book was shit. They handled one of the most important aspect of the avatar world horribly. I still think that Korra is a horrible character even though she has shown a remarkable growth. Korra has little world building which is sad.
Face it Tiger..
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So why doesn't Korra a) take away Kuvira's bending b) bloodbend and kill Kuvira?
do you really need to ask that?
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