All this Amon talk is hurting me. What a cool villain he was and good points he had. Season 1>4 by a long shot even with that ending. Heck I say it had the superior ending, since there was some type of closure. It just needed more episodes and time. Season 1 also made water benders op.
Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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SilentMatthew
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That blew up his water tribe culture center.
Which culture? American? We never really found out the wedding customs of other nations, so it's weird he uses a ring.
He's got a right to disown his property.
Bryke probably thought that it would be lost on some otherwise. I know I forgot, personally.
JadedWriter
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Amon had never fought an Airbender before because how many of them actually exist for you to practice on. Airbenders at that time were like Tasmanian Tigers.Also, let's take a moment to acknowledge the music in this series. Good lord, it's always been good since the first season of ATLA.
Gotta love how the composer posted the final theme of LoK on his Soundcloud with Korra and Asami holding hands. Note that the song is a remix of Avatar's Love from ATLA.
https://soundcloud.com/jeremy-zuckerman/the-legend-of-korra
At least until you got Air Bending ex Machina, right?
Yeah no arguing with that. He's probably the most OP villain in the show. Korra sure was lucky ha that her airbending kicked in and there was a massive window to kick him through.
Also, let's take a moment to acknowledge the music in this series. Good lord, it's always been good since the first season of ATLA.
Gotta love how the composer posted the final theme of LoK on his Soundcloud with Korra and Asami holding hands. Note that the song is a remix of Avatar's Love from ATLA.
https://soundcloud.com/jeremy-zuckerman/the-legend-of-korra
At least until you got Air Bending ex Machina, right?
So lovely. I'll never stop being pissed off at Nick and their decision not to bother releasing the rest of the soundtracks despite the fact that they sold pretty well.
I need those soundtracks.
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Xpike
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Zhu Li is not Water Tribe and Varrick probably assumed she wouldn't get it.
NipplesAndToes23
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How in the hell did Zhu Li fall in love with Varrick when that dude treated her like shit?
BKatastrophe
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This may shock some, but I still don't have a problem with Book 1's ending.
Despite her falling in love with him, she wasn't going to be with him until he finally treated her as a partner.
I dug that.
SilentMatthew
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JadedWriter
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Nothing worse than being with someone that treats you like property. You either stand your ground or get the fuck out. It's nice that both of them wised up and saw what was in front of them.
Precisely.
As much flack as I gave the relationships in the show in the beginning, they were well done later on. Of course, censorship dictated how much of what we saw between Korra and Asami, but the heterosexual relationships were well done too after Book 2 given each one's respective screen time.
JadedWriter
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If it's something you're going to focus on in your show you better improve how you're going to write it. It did get better though because book 2 was horrible. The line they crossed with Bolin sexually assaulting Ginger on a kids show was terrible. The stuff with Eska was funny but my god that not how most relationships work unless you like having a rubber ball gag strapped onto your mouth.
BKatastrophe
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I guess it only seemed logical to me. Like, Amon would have to practice locking bending, right? That means he'd be ace with fire, water, and earth. What about air, though? He never got any practice with airbenders. Plus, he's never locked an Avatar's bending, and the Avatar utilizes all bending styles in addition to wonky spirit powers. So Korra gets her abilities locked, and she has nothing left but air, so in some weird way her body was like "welp, ya got nothin left so here's your airbending for what it's worth."
I mean, Amon could never totally lock her powers simply because she's the Avatar. We see Aang using the Avatar State to override bloodbending earlier in the series. Korra hits rock bottom, she's desperate and feels like she has nothing else, so in that way she connects to her past lives and accesses her Avatar State. I mean, she was contemplating killing herself and the AS activates as a survival mechanism: it wanted her to keep going. Plus, the AS overrides the bloodbending. Now, I understand being upset about her fixing Lin's bending, but then again Aang was capable of energybending, so it made sense to me that the accumulative knowledge of her past lives would include energybending. In that, she could fix Lin's bending.
I guess I just saw whatever logic they were using. I bought it.
Wait until we get into the post mortem/critical reflection portion of the program.
SlowRevolution
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Did I black out during one of these episodes or did they totally forget about the Aang 2.0 kid? I think his name was Kai?
JadedWriter
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Who? If you mean Kai he learned refraction light bending and turned invisible but it cost him his ability to speak.
Mr Fahrenheit
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I don't think that'll ever come for this show now.
Doesn't ring a bell.
SilentMatthew
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Most likely it's gonna be a rehash of the noted problems of LoK. All the time and effort spent was planned in a scope of a mini-series (12-13 episodes). Then in around a year or so try to spin that scope into multiple seasons. Inconsistent writing and silly decisions like keeping the min-series format for the rest of the seasons. Etc etc.
It'll be more... insight/new if we could get some interviews and director commentaries as the basis of discussion. Especially since season 4 present the same problems from prior seasons. Nothing substantial to discuss unless new info comes out.
Atraveller
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I agree.
Saucycarpdog
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If they were going to do a New Avatar here's what I want:
-New avatar to be not cuddled into being the avatar/force of good. Korra at times looked like a nobody but I want to push this further and have an avatar who doesn't discover he/she is the avatar till much later and when he/she does they could care less. Have them find their own path and discover the elements on their own similar to TLA. Have the main character being born to hermits I guess could be the background? Maybe once Korra dies the White Lotus and the world don't go looking for whoever is the new avatar because they don't need the avatar anymore?
-Keep the theme of introducing new element bending. How about Plasma bending? Maybe gas bending? If the show writers want they could also step outside the 4 elements and have new elements discovered. Darkness or light bending perhaps?
-Make a villain who doesn't pussy foot around with the avatar. I am so sick of the Avatar State being the trump-all card against all the villains. How about an enemy who can go toe-to-toe with the Avatar State? I would also like it if the show writers would explore a non-human enemy. An evil spirit maybe.? Fuck Vattu, I'm talking about a spirit who feasts on people like that face-eating spirit from TLA. Since the portals between the worlds are open this could be a nice consequence of Korra's action which further might push the idea that not every Avatar has made the right decisions.
Just some ideas that they could hopefully explore.
-New avatar to be not cuddled into being the avatar/force of good. Korra at times looked like a nobody but I want to push this further and have an avatar who doesn't discover he/she is the avatar till much later and when he/she does they could care less. Have them find their own path and discover the elements on their own similar to TLA. Have the main character being born to hermits I guess could be the background? Maybe once Korra dies the White Lotus and the world don't go looking for whoever is the new avatar because they don't need the avatar anymore?
-Keep the theme of introducing new element bending. How about Plasma bending? Maybe gas bending? If the show writers want they could also step outside the 4 elements and have new elements discovered. Darkness or light bending perhaps?
-Make a villain who doesn't pussy foot around with the avatar. I am so sick of the Avatar State being the trump-all card against all the villains. How about an enemy who can go toe-to-toe with the Avatar State? I would also like it if the show writers would explore a non-human enemy. An evil spirit maybe.? Fuck Vattu, I'm talking about a spirit who feasts on people like that face-eating spirit from TLA. Since the portals between the worlds are open this could be a nice consequence of Korra's action which further might push the idea that not every Avatar has made the right decisions.
Just some ideas that they could hopefully explore.
What makes a Deus Ex Machina work for a series like JoJo, but not for Korra.
Giant Spoilers from JoJo Part 2, don't read if you plan on watching the series.
So why does a moment like that work so well and make me cheer, but season 2 was cringe? At least for me...
Giant Spoilers from JoJo Part 2, don't read if you plan on watching the series.
Near the end of Part 2, the villain pretty much becomes a god, he can use the heroes signature technique with 100 times the strength. As the ability of every living creature and can regenerate from anything and is immortal. Not only that, but our hero just got his arm cut off and his leg pretty much broken. Let due to a series of events that is just too awesome to describe, the bad guy is launched into space without any hope of returning.
So why does a moment like that work so well and make me cheer, but season 2 was cringe? At least for me...
Tal Shiar Agent
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So, since Korra doesn't have a surname I'm assuming she'll take Asami's.
Korra Sato.
Murder. She Wrote
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I watched S1 when it premiered all those years ago and then forgot about it. When this thread popped up I decided to watch the rest of the show. I got caught up just in time for the last episode. I actually liked S2, the biggest thing I hated was that Korra's past avatars got killed off. It was brought up like once and then everything is hunky dorry. I really wish they retconned that shit. "Hey let's kill 10,000 years worth of Avatar's for emotional purposes!" Ugh, this whole series could have been better developed and definitely better written. S3 was better overall but making the villain an anarchist is always so poorly done. It's always like babies first anarchism. Kovira didn't need to be so stupidly evil, like really you're gonna kill your fiance so easily? Varric was a hilarious high light and Bo Lin fell flat way too often. I loved the troll ending of Korra being a lesbian because there was no lead up and it was so random, I couldn't stop laughing.
I really hope this isn't the end of the franchise because I think it still has legs, no matter how hard Nick tried to ruin it.
I really hope this isn't the end of the franchise because I think it still has legs, no matter how hard Nick tried to ruin it.
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Xpike
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Because in Jojo it actually feels deserved, Joseph trained, fought, and defeated the 2 henchmen himself. With Korra in S1 and 2 they did not feel deserved at all, it was more of a "Alright korra you're the avatar so you need to win"
JadedWriter
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Because Jojo by its very nature is over the top as fuck and isn't meant to be taken seriously, but even with the shit with the ripple techiques it takes itself very seriously and explains why something does or doesn't work against an opponent.
We'll have one.
m_shortpants
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Well, Avatar on TV or online is pretty much dead at this point but cool ideas!
If I got hype as fuck at Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagann and Bayonetta 1 and 2, should I watch Jojo's Bizarre adventures?
I like you a lot.
I'm on my phone, so hopefully this comes out right lol
I like you a lot.
Mr Fahrenheit
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Will we hold hands and stare into each other's eyes?
Only if you take me out to dinner.
Mr Fahrenheit
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How about I just compliment your hair instead.
Yes,but be warned Season 1/ Part 1 of JoJo is easily the weakest. It's only 9 EP. Part 2 is when things hit its stride.
JadedWriter
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Part 1 is saved by Dio-sama. One must watch that season to see how cool a one note villain can be. Part 2 is fuck awesome. Part 3 is really different though, but it's still a lot of fun and opens the door to some new and creative powers.
And if you liked TTGL I would also recommend Kill La Kill some hate it, but I found it to be a lot of fun myself.
Train of Midnight
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Shhhhhh. Don't listen to this person. S1 is the true JoJo.
It works better because you got to know the villain and his group and the questionable things he did, although Cars is a bit more ambiguous than other JoJo villains. The villain did things that made you want him to see him get his just desserts. So when it happens, as contrived as it may be, it is much much more satisfying.
Also,
the fact that Joseph bluffed his way through it makes it even more amazing.
Yeah I'm not ready to leave this universe behind. I want more avatar already.
Here have a hug.
Tal Shiar Agent
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Hopefully we get some Korra comics that aren't bound by the outdated mores of Nick.
m_shortpants
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I need to get around to finishing Kill la Kill.
I know Season 1 of JoJo is good, but it's very tamed compared to the later seasons. (I know I'm calling a season where a guy pulls knives out of his body tame, but still.)
I do wish Korra's villain's were a little more charismatic. Outside of Amon, they were all kind of meh.
I do wish Korra's villain's were a little more charismatic. Outside of Amon, they were all kind of meh.
Infinite Justice
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Oh ok
Yes? It was a garbage attraction based on ultimately nothing (no progress, no connection, no personality, nothing. Hell her small stint with bolin was leagues better) and there was wasn't any thing to indicate progress in later seasons for a continuation.
Also most people didn't like Mako because this garabge romance was basically defining his character so it looked he was just made for this (so when it faltered he went down with it). While they tried to give him his own stuff in later seasons the stuff before sadly already defined him (we were laughing at him when all that relationship drama and the awkwardness that happened were referred in the show itself).
if a relationship is done well then i wont mind but i think it really wasn't (or fleshed out enough) and no i won't use "they can't because etc" as a crutch either since its possible.
@ second bold : but you are still saying it indirectly though and it feels like you are throwing people under the bus because of it.
i have got one also but i'll take that L since i was jaded as fuck in regards to Nick and their policies (even if the relationship was half baked imo).
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