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[GameAddict411]

It's down for me too, I don't even know why we are paying ms and Sony this $50 fee anymore. High traffic is not an excuse, it's fucking Christmas. Anyone with half a brain knows that. They should have prepared for it instead of spending time on how much money they made.

 

[timnich]

it's not always having issues; also not every other week. More like almost never.

Right, so I just imagined not being able to sign in to PSN, or not be able to send friend requests, or not being able to join party chat, or being locked out of my digital games...

 

[Fallout-with-swords]

It's down for me too, I don't even know why we are paying ms and Sony this $50 fee anymore. High traffic is not an excuse, it's fucking Christmas. Anyone with half a brain knows that. They should have prepared for it instead of spending time on how much money they made.

They are both being DDOS'd though right? It's not just high traffic.

 

[Gindor]

It's down for me too, I don't even know why we are paying ms and Sony this $50 fee anymore. High traffic is not an excuse, it's fucking Christmas. Anyone with half a brain knows that. They should have prepared for it instead of spending time on how much money they made.

it's not due to high traffic. Lulzard Squad is DDoSing both. People claiming its high traffic are in denial of a bunch of kids being able to send some traffic to certain servers...

Right, so I just imagined not being able to sign in to PSN, or not be able to send friend requests, or not being able to join party chat, or being locked out of my digital games...

its offline now due to the DDoS. same thing a few weeks ago. Apart from that there haven't been any issues apart from relatively slow messaging for a few weeks. (I'm on there every day with multiple devices).

They are both being DDOS'd though right? It's not just high traffic.

+10

 

[Alucrid]

It's down for me too, I don't even know why we are paying ms and Sony this $50 fee anymore. High traffic is not an excuse, it's fucking Christmas. Anyone with half a brain knows that. They should have prepared for it instead of spending time on how much money they made.

you shouldn't renew ps+ to show sony that you won't stand their incompetence any longer

 

[Shito]

it's not due to high traffic. Lulzard Squad is DDoSing both. People claiming its high traffic are in denial of a bunch of kids being able to send some traffic to certain servers...

What's the prof of that, though?
My bet is on Christmas Day and nothing else.

 

[alr1ght]

Well there goes my purchase of the Jackbox Party Pack. Stop giving the little shits attention and they'll get bored and stop.

 

[velociraptor]

It's still down? Are there any signs of improvement? Such a pisstake - I wanted to play TLOU!

I'm so glad that these problems never occur in PC games.

 

[Ricker]

What's the prof of that, though?
My bet is on Christmas Day and nothing else.

Yeah...attacks for close to 24 hours now...? c'mon,its just high traffic,thats all...like it happened on the 360 a few years back...

 

[vesvci]

Edit: spoke too soon...PSN down as well as XBL for me.

 

[Gindor]

It's still down? Are there any signs of improvement? Such a pisstake - I wanted to play TLOU!

I'm so glad that these problems never occur in PC games.

if only. Steam kicks me and a mate out of our co-op games once every 2 weeks due to failing servers or due to maintenance. Almost always late at night (1 AM or later) in Europe.

 

[Captain Tuttle]

Is it working on PS3? My daughter is playing Minecraft on the 360 right now without any problems, I'm not home so I can't check my Xbone.

Just wondering if they are different and separate systems

 

[Lee Chaolan]

Well there goes my purchase of the Jackbox Party Pack. Stop giving the little shits attention and they'll get bored and stop.

Such a shame that game is SO much friggin fun my friend.

 

[VinFTW]

So, has PSN been down for almost 2 days? Was it down yesterday too?

 

[Shito]

Yeah...attacks for close to 24 hours now...? c'mon,its just high traffic,thats all...like it happened on the 360 a few years back...

Yep.
Funny how people are talking ddos every time something falls down, now.
In a sense, they are right, but I do believe the only ddos happening right now is coming from all the players trying to reconnect at the same time. The login servers are probably what is failing at the moment.

 

[velociraptor]

I don't understand - my brother was playing GTA Online for a couple of hours. But when I switch to my account, I cannot login. :/

 

[Alucrid]

So, has PSN been down for almost 2 days? Was it down yesterday too?

no, i was able to connect last night and this morning.

 

[Beefy]

So, has PSN been down for almost 2 days? Was it down yesterday too?

It hasn't been down at all for some people.

 

[ironcreed]

So, has PSN been down for almost 2 days? Was it down yesterday too?

It started last night.

 

[Two Words]

Cable and Internet services will credt you back whenever they have downtime that is more than reasonable. Why doesn't XBL or PSN do the same when they are down for a few days?

 

[bananafactory]

So, has PSN been down for almost 2 days? Was it down yesterday too?

It worked fine for me all day yesterday, I was gaming until midnight or so. But it seems others were having issues earlier

 

[shysaursoft]

What's the prof of that, though?
My bet is on Christmas Day and nothing else.

Yep.
Funny how people are talking ddos every time something falls down, now.
In a sense, they are right, but I do believe the only ddos happening right now is coming from all the players trying to reconnect at the same time. The login servers are probably what is failing at the moment.

There are multiple companies that track DDoS attacks, and make that information public. The two easiest to check, both show an unnaturally high amount of DDoS activity, which is clearly DDoS and not just "high volume", because of the nature of the attacks.

It's still down? Are there any signs of improvement? Such a pisstake - I wanted to play TLOU!

I'm so glad that these problems never occur in PC games.

Except when Steam was DDoS'ed multiple times this year and held offline for almost a day at one point...

I don't understand - my brother was playing GTA Online for a couple of hours. But when I switch to my account, I cannot login. :/

That's the nature of a DDoS attack. It causes a wide range of services to have intermittant connectivity issues, it isn't always a simple binary "on/off" for services such as PSN, there are multiple datacenters, multiple regions, and the timing of things means you might get lucky and find an unclogged route in, or not.

EDIT: Starting to think GAF should start a "how the internet works" thread and explain in detail how these things happen and play out. By now though this is just an incomprehensible rage thread (which is utterly understandable, of all days this is a bad one for there to be issues, in conjunction with a DDoS - which is exactly why they're doing it right now). So for my own xmas sanity, I think I'll leave the explanations to someone else, since knowing the why isn't helping anyone.

 

[Sanpei]

Live is down also

 

[blazeuk]

its offline now due to the DDoS. same thing a few weeks ago. Apart from that there haven't been any issues apart from relatively slow messaging for a few weeks. (I'm on there every day with multiple devices).

Sorry but there are regular issues with PSN (you only have to read on here and elsewhere to see that not everyone is happy with the network), some of the issues might not be hugely problematic, but many of them are annoying, messages taking forever to be sent/received has been an issue for the last few months now with no sign of a fix, it's not just an issue that's popped up in the last "few weeks", it's been that way ever since Destiny got released (which is also oddly when the entire network took a turn for the worse).

Christmas does bring about its own problems though and although it's not really acceptable for it to not work, it's become somewhat predictable over the years that they do struggle and if it is indeed being DDoS'd then that doesn't help either.

 

[Gindor]

So, has PSN been down for almost 2 days? Was it down yesterday too?

Only a few hours in (continental) Europe. Zero probs yesterday

 

[VinFTW]

It started last night.

Ah k, well this sucks, when will 24 hours of downtime be? I would think after 24 hours they would say something.

 

[Supermanisdead]

trash

 

[bananafactory]

Ah k, well this sucks, when will 24 hours of downtime be? I would think after 24 hours they would say something.

The network isn't completely down, I'm signed in and can see my friends list but can't access the store.

They tweeted 4 hours ago that they are working on it

 

[Brandon F]

Can't even get access to the free game code download voucher bundled when buying a new PS4. Bet this really sucked the christmas morning cheer from a lot of kids. Hopefully it gets fixed shortly.

 

[Jest Chillin]

Someone with Networking knowledge enlighten me. I'm picturing internet traffic being something like a freeway/highway in that once a blockage occurs, as long as people are still trying to travel through that blockage, it creates a backup of sorts. So that even once the cause of the blockage is removed.. the traffic can still be hindered due to everyone still trying to travel that route. Would that be correct or completely wrong?

Another way to say it would be.. if say.. Holiday traffic to PSN and Xbox were backed up starting last night... and a large amount of people were still continuously trying to log in through various means... would the service still be backed up even if the initial cause of the backup was removed?

 

[Liamc723]

Yep.
Funny how people are talking ddos every time something falls down, now.
In a sense, they are right, but I do believe the only ddos happening right now is coming from all the players trying to reconnect at the same time. The login servers are probably what is failing at the moment.

You are believing wrong then. A group have literally said they're Ddoss'ing the servers, but nope, of course it's only the people who got the console for Christmas.

 

[Beefy]

So Lizardsquad claiming they are DDosing both. I guess with the amount of new people signing on it doesn't help either.

 

[Handy Fake]

So Lizardsquad claiming they are DDosing both. I guess with the amount of new people signing on it doesn't help either.

In a nutshell. People love to blame the first person they see, though.

 

[Dunkley]

So Lizardsquad claiming they are DDosing both. I guess with the amount of new people signing on it doesn't help either.

Honestly it seems like Lizardsquad is mainly targeting days where there is already a high amount of traffic going on anyway. Seems like their deal is only DDoS'ing when the networks are already struggling.

 

[Live Free or Die]

Someone with Networking knowledge enlighten me. I'm picturing internet traffic being something like a freeway/highway in that once a blockage occurs, as long as people are still trying to travel through that blockage, it creates a backup of sorts. So that even once the cause of the blockage is removed.. the traffic can still be hindered due to everyone still trying to travel that route. Would that be correct or completely wrong?

Another way to say it would be.. if say.. Holiday traffic to PSN and Xbox were backed up starting last night... and a large amount of people were still continuously trying to log in through various means... would the service still be backed up even if the initial cause of the backup was removed?

you can see the attacks going on here http://map.ipviking.com/

 

[mnz]

You are believing wrong then. A group have literally said they're Ddoss'ing the servers, but nope, of course it's only the people who got the console for Christmas.

They even announced it days before it happened.

 

[double jump]

this shit is infuriating and I don't care who's the blame.
sony should at least be adding days onto my plus subscription .

 

[ironcreed]

Ah k, well this sucks, when will 24 hours of downtime be? I would think after 24 hours they would say something.

Around 7-8 Eastern.

 

[Jest Chillin]

you can see the attacks going on here http://map.ipviking.com/

Isn't that site only an example of what typical hacking traffic looks like, rather than an active representation of hacking going on at any given point in time?

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

I dont believe its lizard squad anymore.. If thats the case they could just do it whenever? And we are ok with that??

 

[Handy Fake]

I dont believe its lizard squad anymore.. If thats the case they could just do it whenever? And we are ok with that??

Are we?

 

[ThirtyPlus]

Ddos or not, making the transition from xbl to psn this gen has been painful.

I honestly think I've had more problems with psn in the last year than I did with xbl the entirety of the x360's lifespan.

 

[timnich]

its offline now due to the DDoS. same thing a few weeks ago. Apart from that there haven't been any issues apart from relatively slow messaging for a few weeks. (I'm on there every day with multiple devices).

No, that hasn't been my case at all. "Slow messaging" is the least of the issues ( by the way, how is taking 10 minutes for a message to send "relatively slow"?). It's great that you haven't had many issues, but for myself and many others its been a shitshow.

 

[Beefy]

I dont believe its lizard squad anymore.. If thats the case they could just do it whenever? And we are ok with that??

We can't do anything but hope they get caught soon.

 

[Revolutionary]

So, has PSN been down for almost 2 days? Was it down yesterday too?

No? I was playing GTA on and off all day yesterday.

 

[Neoxon]

Ddos or not, making the transition from xbl to psn this gen has been painful.

I honestly think I've had more problems with psn in the last year than I did with xbl the entirety of the x360's lifespan.

Xbox One was also hit.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Is there any known workaround to get signed in? My nephew got a PS4 form Christmas but has been unable to do anything at all

 

[Live Free or Die]

Isn't that site only an example of what typical hacking traffic looks like, rather than an active representation of hacking going on at any given point in time?

It's real time from what I've been told.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Are we?

Yea

We can't do anything but hope they get caught soon.

We pretty much did the whole no drm thing but for ddos we let ot slide? nah son.. riot

 

[ItachiSWE]

Well ofc PSN is down when I finally have some time to kill...!