LIZARD SQUAD is Back. Planning XBL Attack. "Biggest attack yet". [UP: XBL/PSN Down]

Miktar said:
Announced head of time by group, timing matches up, there is a visible attack going on seen on two ddos tracking sites, the style of attack matches up previous attacks by the same group, done on days where there was no other reason it might have happened - group has also successfully called attacks on Steam, Guild Wars 2, WoW, Aion, Lineage and other games like LoL.

So while it *might* not be them, and just the usual Christmas traffic... it could also be an attack taking advantage of an already congested system.
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Right on, thanks for the knowledge.
 
Ambient80 said:
Getting into the nuances for the general public is silly. To a great majority of people, "using a computer in a bad way to make something not work" is hacking. If you explain DDoS to them they're gonna say that it's a form of hacking, or just not care.
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True. But isn't the entire purpose of journalism to inform people of things they don't know; bring up nuance for proper context and understanding? Nuance is the whole fucking point, and the lack of it is what is wrong.
 
Miktar said:
Announced head of time by group, timing matches up, there is a visible attack going on seen on two ddos tracking sites, the style of attack matches up previous attacks by the same group, done on days where there was no other reason it might have happened - group has also successfully called attacks on Steam, Guild Wars 2, WoW, Aion, Lineage and other games like LoL.

So while it *might* not be them, and just the usual Christmas traffic... it could also be an attack taking advantage of an already congested system.



If only. But unfortunately, considering how cheap and easy it is to do, for just a few luls, it's unlikely that just covering your eyes and pretending they don't exist will make them not do it in the first place. Just like how ignoring a bully doesn't do anything other than cause the bully to escalate.



I think you might be dissapointed to find out, anyone can spend 40-100 bucks to get access to the command and control account of a large botnet, and point it at something. There is no skill, or even hacking, going on. Just kids with access to tools.
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Well god damnnit now I'm pissed. Is there anything sony and Microsoft can do about it?
 
Wingfan19 said:
I did, same thing happened. I disabled it, then completely shut down the PS4, rebooted it and the game are still locked. They even have a little "LOCK" icon on the main tiles.
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Go to restore licenses in the settings menu. Should clear things up if it's the problem I am thinking of.
 
Also FYI on Dragon Age, in my experience this afternoon, eventually (like maybe after 5 min) the 'Connecting to EA servers' thing just times out and then you get the option to continue your game without being connected.
 
greenwolfe7 said:
I understand that but seriously I mean ddos has been a thing for a long time... You think there should be a way to reroute traffic and packets at the router levels at this point.
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That's basically what they do. You reroute traffic but as long as your network needs to be discoverable, the attacker just finds the new route and moves to attack. That's partially why you'll have times where is seems like service is returning and then kaput.

When our company was DDoSed, there was a point where we just realized we were wasting our time.
 
Justinreideddy said:
Well god damnnit now I'm pissed. Is there anything sony and Microsoft can do about it?
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Unfortunately, the way a ddos works is it uses the very way the internet functions normally against itself. You can install mitigation, and filter, and more mitigation, but eventually you end up with a problem where the end-user has to sit in a queue for an hour for their turn at being "verified" that they're a legitimate user, and not one of the billions of fake users all spamming the site. And even then, while MS and Sony might secure their own castles (datacenters), the internet going into those datacenters still has to come from somewhere - so the ddos clogs that up, preventing you from even reaching either company.

There is no way to permanently prevent a ddos attack, other than reworking the fundamental protocol (TCP) of the internet. The sad reality is, the internet is running on tech that was designed in the 70s, when this kind of attack wasn't even considered. It needs a complete do-over, which of course... ain't gonna happen soon. And the groups that ddos know it.
 
I haven't had a hard time signing into XBL but actually doing anything is impossible. Went to rent a movie and it won't do it; rented it on Youtube and it won't play (says it can't license it). So sick of this.
 
Justinreideddy said:
I hate when hackers mess with things that I use but I do find their ability to do so to be completely fascinating in a weird way. Like I really respect their knowledge I just think there are better things to fuck with than video game services.
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DDOSing isn't hacking. There are tens of thousands of people that are knowledgeable enough to do what they are doing, and many more that could learn how in a few minutes.

These are just a few kids that never get invited to parties and were able to raid mom's wallet for a revenge on the world mission.
 
CREMSteve said:
This has nothing to do with the quality of the service. It's a third party DDOS attack, the entire internet is vulnerable to it.
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I mean yes, but it is kind of a crappy service even when is not under attack.

gotta wait 5 mins for a message not being send, hee not cool.
 
Miktar said:
Unfortunately, the way a ddos works is it uses the very way the internet functions normally against itself. You can install mitigation, and filter, and more mitigation, but eventually you end up with a problem where the end-user has to sit in a queue for an hour for their turn at being "verified" that they're a legitimate user, and not one of the billions of fake users all spamming the site. And even then, while MS and Sony might secure their own castles (datacenters), the internet going into those datacenters still has to come from somewhere - so the ddos clogs that up, preventing you from even reaching either company.

There is no way to permanently prevent a ddos attack, other than reworking the fundamental protocol (TCP) of the internet. The sad reality is, the internet is running on tech that was designed in the 70s, when this kind of attack wasn't even considered. It needs a complete do-over, which of course... ain't gonna happen soon. And the groups that ddos know it.
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Thank you. You are what they call.....smarter than me.
 
Etnos said:
I mean yes, but it is kind of a crappy service even when is not under attack.

gotta wait 5 mins for a message not being send, hee not cool.
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That seems to have been resolved, haven't had an issue in a few weeks after months of it frustrating me. I agree it took too long to address.
 
Was going to watch The Interview on the YouTube app on my PS3 tonight. But I couldn't because that requires me to sign into PSN, which wasn't working.

So. Internet.
 
Bro didn't get to play his new PS4 copy of Far Cry 4 due to having to login and shit before even getting to play.

Kids had to mess with people's Christmas. :(
 
Arrogant Bastard said:
Has it ever happened to those sites is what I'm asking.
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Multiple times this year. Though Amazon's AWS systems are pretty damn top-notch, with arguably some of the best ddos mitigation there is next to whatever the hell Google does. Netflix is hosted on AWS still, if I'm not mistaken, so they benefit from having that muscle.
 
I'm just playing my games offline. Fuck you Lizard squad, you're having no effect on me.

My condolences to people with new game systems, this has to suck.
 
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