LIZARD SQUAD is Back. Planning XBL Attack. "Biggest attack yet". [UP: XBL/PSN Down]
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I've been thinking the same thing to set this up time effort and work behind the scenes... I mean... how much of an A-Hole do you have to be and what level of A-Holism do you have to reach in order want to put the time and effort it prolly took them to plan and do this just to piss off consumers... (serious question) I mean end game is they themselves couldn't play all day they wasted who knows how much on electricity.... and seriously for what? A bunch of people hating on there group...? Infamy? They can't release their real names or anything or brag properly about doing this shit just make references hiding behind some fakeass twitter account? I mean lets collectively decide to ignore them right now and they won't be shit but fleas on a dog's butt at the end of the day...
As been explained in this thread before, no one can prevent a full scale DDOS. Not even google.
And it's not just Sony affected - XBL has been down all day too.
riskVSreward
Member
and it does nothing for them IRL cuz if people find out who they are, they would be in trouble. so yea, it's a waste of time.
shacklesmcgee
Member
I thought gaf would be smarter than to blame MS and Sony, yet here we are...
gameoverbro
Member
Psn is up for me. West coast
Gaf is not a hivemind.
Revengineer
Unconfirmed Member
No, I guess you're just destined to be resigned to a low standard of quality for services you pay a premium for.
I can't think of the last time the authentication servers were down for Microsoft's enterprise volume licensing service center, for example.
NullPointer
Member
I just jumped in to the PS4 version and I'm not signed into PSN - still can't sign in.Same. I didn't know this was online only
It said "logging in..." then asked me to sign in to PSN, which I did, and it failed and timed out twice. Then I saw the option to continue offline, and it worked.
Vincent4756
Member
So just got my new HDD in for my ps4 installed... Was hoping to reinstall my games so I could use my new a50s.. Can't sign on to my profile so no game installs.
Guess I can watch LoTR extendeds to give my new headset a whirl :/
Guess I can watch LoTR extendeds to give my new headset a whirl :/
keltickennedy
Member
Microsoft is in the same boat. Sucks man.
How many fucking times does this have to be explained!?
Misinformation spreads like wildfire.
Don't tell me, you don't like how it controls?
Its more than that. The world, characters, story, the fire and forget mission structure, the fact there is no restart mission ability, the controls
Playing it feels like playing with wet putty. I have mini anuerisms everytime I hit something while driving because you spin out of control and its a fucking chore to get from point A to B. I failed a mission 3 times because I hit something and the stupid trailer from my truck gets detached and I get failed for abandoning the trailer because it takes to long to re atach it.
eegh. I should just delete the game from my hard drive, Thinking about it is actually making me nauseous.
Revengineer
Unconfirmed Member
Explain it to me again then - also, care to tell me what part of infosec you're in?
It's been up for me on PS3 for about a hour just can't get on ps4.
AngryWhiteMan
Member
I had the same issue with Horizon 2 today. I got around it by going into the Bone's network setting and selecting the "go offline" option.
Man that just sucks so much to read. Fuck these ppl for basically ruining Christmas for some of these kids.
Night Angel
Member
Sure sounds like a priority target for DDoS attacks.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
You don't have to be apart of infosec to understand. Although it is a frustrating ordeal.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Do these attacks need you to change your passwords when they get settled?
riskVSreward
Member
I haven't even stated which service, if any, I'm using.
All you've done is come in here and flash your ignorance on the topic.
You realize Live went down all day as well right?
Revengineer
Unconfirmed Member
Apparently you do because of all of the people just blindly marching on with "but... there's nothing poor Microsoft and Sony can do! They explained it earlier in this thread!!!"
aspiegamer
Member
If you want to start to go down that road you have to ask how Microsoft, Lord Of All Things Internet second only to Google with magic clouds all over the planet that keep everyone safe and happy they brag about constantly, could be vulnerable. Hell, having hit "Preview" for this post I already had a MS Cloud banner ad at the top of my screen. They have even fewer excuses. If you're going to start criticizing the companies (which is fair to a certain extent) at least be balanced about it.
...And did anyone ever think "Finest Squad" wasn't actually Lizard Squad in some form? Oh man, I'm sorry.
No. They are just a flood of traffic causing the servers to be extremely busy.
shysaursoft
Member
While I certainly don't want to be defending Sony here - their infrastructure is swiss cheese holy Gouda batman - but what looks to be a 400Gbps sized attack is not... insignificant. In 2012, LulzSec's largest attack was 160Gbps.
In 2011, the average size of a DDoS attack was 1.4Gbps. So any companies that put their DDoS mitigation in place back then with that as the average, is by now so woefully unprepared. I'd be curious what Sony's datacenters are rated to withstand, and by how much of a margin was it insufficient.
flipswitch
Member
Oh ok, so if I do nothing it will eventually play it in offline mode?
Revengineer
Unconfirmed Member
I do! Do you realize that is not okay? That it's preventable and that these types of auth servers CAN be secured against massive targeted denial of service? Because there are tons of vendors and corporations that can't afford to lose that kind of a battle?
The difference is that Microsoft and Sony won't lose any real money here, so they really just don't care. Things might or might not be back up tomorrow, but most of us here won't be returning any consoles since we already own them.
Night Angel
Member
Great logic there. Shows some solid reasoning on your part. You really sound interested in actual discussion of this topic.
No, because I actually understand how a ddos works. It's the equivalent of being annoyed at the architects of your two car garage for not being able to suddenly accommodate 1,000 cars one afternoon because an asshole at work cc'd an email to everyone about your party just to be a dick...
It's not a matter of just "spinning up" millions of more blades to handle dummy logins.
No. This is not a hack.
Revengineer
Unconfirmed Member
Yep, poor architects are a problem from garages to IT solutions.
Hi, I'm not up to date on hacking terms and all that jazz.
I'm seeing that Finest Squad is posting personal info of Lizard Squad.
Awkward.
That being said; Who is actually to blame?
How many times have Microsoft/Sony had to deal with these attacks? How is there not something in place to prohibit this from happening?
Being a general consumer who has no idea how this is happening, am I wrong to expect that there would be things in place to block these attacks in 2014/2015?
Link me to a post explaining, if you don't mind.
Thanks!
I'm seeing that Finest Squad is posting personal info of Lizard Squad.
Awkward.
That being said; Who is actually to blame?
How many times have Microsoft/Sony had to deal with these attacks? How is there not something in place to prohibit this from happening?
Being a general consumer who has no idea how this is happening, am I wrong to expect that there would be things in place to block these attacks in 2014/2015?
Link me to a post explaining, if you don't mind.
Thanks!
shungokusatsu
Member
I appreciate kimdotcom trying to help, but he's just set a horrifically bad precedent for gaming. Now we're going to have group after group attacking the services we use in hopes of being paid in some form to cease the attacks.
I'm confident Microsoft will quickly add the necessary measures, but I'm very concerned that Sony will lag behind.
I'm confident Microsoft will quickly add the necessary measures, but I'm very concerned that Sony will lag behind.
I take it you don't fully understand how this works...
shacklesmcgee
Member
This... was not what was to be gleaned from that
The Feds haven't been able to track down the previous attacks. MS hasn't been able to stop these attacks either. They all need to hire better talent.
ddos CAN'T be prevented or protected against in the matter in which you are saying and both Sony and MS are losing money they didn't plan on losing the amount isn't the point. No company can truely prevent ddos attacks. Google is the closest company to come to having impentrable ddos shielding and even they are not without a history of being attacked.
CyberpunkGod
Member
The most disgusting thing about all of this is that they are getting exactly what they wanted, publicity and news coverage.
Mihos
Gold Member
This is the pinnacle of ignorance. Every single sentence... it is almost weirdly beautiful.
LifEndz
Member
It will try to log in online, fail, and eventually you'll get to the main menu. Select play offline and you should be good.
riskVSreward
Member
Are you implying that I should be disappointed in Sony, and that they should be embarrassed for using TCP protocol? And, by virtue of you not mentioning them, I am to excuse Microsoft for doing the same thing?
Could you possibly be such a troll?