kingdoug87
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I got a Wii U for Xmas... Mario Kart 8 is just gorgeous. It has actually has me looking down at other games on my PS4 that dont adhere to the Wii U's visual impressiveness (it's a word) and quality.
The Wii U and its ability to produce amazing visuals.
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It's not exactly outperforming when they aren't exactly commons cpu tasks. But it's funny how much you try to reverse to whole matter just to have the reason when the whole discussion it's started because you want to prove at all cost ps4 cpu it was inferior in some way to the ps3 cpu. But whatever.sörine;145437334 said:
All that was said was that Cell outperforms Jaguar in certain tasks. That's a true statement. It's entirely reasonable to debate the implications, based on what sorts of tasks those are and what the high-level architecture looks like, but objecting to the statement itself is silly.
What objection? Outperform ps4 cpu in some tasks not means it's a more powerful cpu, it's simply different, more optimized in other aspects.
sörine said that PS3's CPU is better than PS4's CPU in certain tasks. You claimed that this was false:
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Right, and I think that you and sörine are actually in agreement on that issue.
It's exactly outperforming in a way though. A way that PS3 (and 360) relied on to deliver games thanks to their beefy CPUs compensating for their fast aging GPUs as the gen wore on. Did you even read the GDC pdf I linked to?
I never said PS4's CPU was inferior to CELL. I said it was a different architectural approach, that's all. I am getting tired of you putting words in my mouth though.
I need to explain to you what a cpu needs to do in the hardware?
This is exactly what is wrong with WWHD. Celshaded graphics turn into a cheap-o 3D look in certain lighting conditions. Horrible. I'm fine with the added colors and bloom, but this is just appaling.
This is hopeless. What's actually funny is you continually claiming you're the only one who knows this, never source or explain anything, aggressively misinterpreting people, then pleading anyone with a counterpoint to please stop. Perhaps it's the language barrier but whatever, you win, we can stop.
What its time is best-spent doing depends on the architecture. Massive parallel computational ability isn't integral to many "traditional" CPU tasks, but it's appropriate for covering for some of the overall architecture of PS3 and 360.
All that's being claimed is that Cell is better at those things than Jaguar. Not that using Cell instead of Jaguar in PS4 would improve PS4's performance, or any other such business that you'd like to put into myself or sörine's mouth.
I seriously don't understand what's going on here, everyone seems to agree on a certain idea, yet you perpetually insist on denying a simple statement which is blatantly obviously true. Cell is better at certain tasks than Jaguar. You can argue forever about how "CPU-ish" those tasks are, but the original statement had nothing to do with how "CPU"-ish those tasks are, so it has no bearing as to the validity of the statement.
Whatever, there's clearly no point continuing this back-and-forth. :/
ChronotriggerJM
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How solid was the framerate on Ratchet and clank ACIT? I honestly don't remember. That's a game that really nailed artistic direction. It's probably one of the closest styled games to Nintendo's portfolio.
I think it was sub HD though, but still, programmed on the cell with that amazing split pool of 512mb of ram lol.
I tend to like the look of Nintendo's more realistic styled games, Zeldas giving me some Flower vibes in a good way. I'm hoping the next Metroid knocks it out of the park.
I think it was sub HD though, but still, programmed on the cell with that amazing split pool of 512mb of ram lol.
I tend to like the look of Nintendo's more realistic styled games, Zeldas giving me some Flower vibes in a good way. I'm hoping the next Metroid knocks it out of the park.
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qizah
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Haven't heard that before.
I politely disagree! I recently finished it, and there were a lot of moments where I stopped, stared and appreciated how gorgeous it is.
Yeah right. Suddenly you change the whole matter but ' I just said it's superior in some aspects, without intend more' and boom,it's just my language barrier because I tried to go deeper in your words . Now the arrogant it's me who tried to explain what was 'imprecise' in your statement. Yeah I'm hopeless because I tried to discuss to someone who want just win the discussion and not to have a confrontation.sörine;145439848 said:
Boombloxer
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This. Not impressed with any of those shots, as it's largely the same style/palette.
Dragon Age/CoD look amazing, but I tend to prefer that style anyways, or something like Cuphead. Or Vanillaware-ish games. If it's not pseudo-realistic, be striking.
Give me both art and tech, like God of War/Uncharted/Gears, Max Payne, Bioshock Infinite, etc.
I tend to really not notice the visuals of mk8 when pkaying. Too much focusing but it looks good on certain stages when my bro is playing
Bayonetta 2 looks amazing on the system especially coming off from playing bayo1 which had this bad piss filter
Mario 3d world is a okay looking game. Nothing very impressive. The gloss and glowing just bothers me. galaxy looks better imo
Wwhd looks amazing some bad framerate during those bomb boats
Tropical freeze looks really good beside the beach levels which looked rather dull
Smash looks great ..except when playing on old stages from brawl/melee
Some of these games use the Wii u's weird lighting right like bayo2...others like Mario 3d world looks rather plain and boring ..one thing though. I really wish there was a better anti aliasing in place >.<. Can't wait until I can finally post screens of Nintendo games without seeing jaggies :/
Bayonetta 2 looks amazing on the system especially coming off from playing bayo1 which had this bad piss filter
Mario 3d world is a okay looking game. Nothing very impressive. The gloss and glowing just bothers me. galaxy looks better imo
Wwhd looks amazing some bad framerate during those bomb boats
Tropical freeze looks really good beside the beach levels which looked rather dull
Smash looks great ..except when playing on old stages from brawl/melee
Some of these games use the Wii u's weird lighting right like bayo2...others like Mario 3d world looks rather plain and boring ..one thing though. I really wish there was a better anti aliasing in place >.<. Can't wait until I can finally post screens of Nintendo games without seeing jaggies :/
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
Low polygon count and cartoony art style to the rescue.
You can do wonders with lower resources and great artstyle.
Just don't try your hand at realistic graphics!
You can do wonders with lower resources and great artstyle.
Just don't try your hand at realistic graphics!
Astral Dog
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Technically?
Wii U absolutely is not next gen.
X does have pretty visuals, but on its open world nature, not character models.
FFXV is a very high budget game on a much more powerful system.
Sooo, it depends on the person, and what are your expectations of the system, i find it weird to compare a Wii U game to next gen directly.
All the discussion it's started because I said ps4 cpu it's superior to the ps3 cpu, in the cpu tasks. Not sure what exactly it's the purpose to repeat again and again ps3 cpu has some advantages over the ps4 when it's pointless to what I said.Even ps2 had a better fillrate of the ps3.
Projectjustice
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sörine;145439848 said:
Don't waste your time. I think he has a reading comprehension issue or language barrier. Or hates to be wrong and keeps moving the goal post. Either way, its a waste of time.
In what exactly I'm wrong my friend? Post like this are completely useless and outrageous, what the point to downplay intentionally someone especially if you don't even know the matter of what we are talking about. Send this shitness via pm please next time to him, if possible. You are free to say what you want about my person privately with the others. But leave free the thread with such stuff.
Windom Earle
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Sapiens
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They're very aesthetically pleasing, just maybe a little sterile.
Yeah, so underwhelming...
I'm not one to claim that Wii U games touch PS4 graphically, but that last gif is suffering terribly from uncanny valley syndrome. That's not what a wet road looks like, especially going uphill.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Good graphics but bad game.. might as well be a tech demo imoYeah, so underwhelming...
I still don't get why that character model in Xenoblade X is supposed to be bad. To me, both characters look fine here. Obviously the one in XV is more technically impressive but I don't get the complaints about the look of Xenoblade. It... looks like Xenoblade / Xenosaga.
Gotdatmoney
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Nintendo are just good at making good looking games. But the WiiU is nothing special in terms of hardware. Still really enjoying the one I just bought though.
Windom Earle
Member
Facial detail was one of the big weaknesses of Xenoblade Chronicles and it still is a problem in X. Also the hair is really really bad.
lmao
Flintty
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A positive Wii U thread turned into a pissing competition which has generally led to fanboys just pissing in the wind. Nice one GAF.
On topic, Nintendo have been working some crazy magic to put out what they have on the U. The vibrant and colourful worlds they're creating are gorgeous. That performance of MK8 too - so sexeh.
On topic, Nintendo have been working some crazy magic to put out what they have on the U. The vibrant and colourful worlds they're creating are gorgeous. That performance of MK8 too - so sexeh.
Why do I get quoted? The gif that was supposed to be impressive just has a glass road and rain splatter on the windshield. It factually looks stupid. The first two look good though.
..anyway. Why the fuck are we talking about driveclub again? You'd think the thread was titled "Wii U graphx >> PS4"
Mihael Mello Keehl
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lol it look good but its tail bruh
Windom Earle
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Most of the character designs in X looks like garbage regardless of tech. I honestly prefer the models in Xenoblade even before you touch them up with HD textures.
Well this is a worthwhile response.
I have had a ps4 since launch and had many graphically impressive looking games. Performance wise I've been disappointed though. Even GTA5 feels a bit clunky though it looks superb. Assassins Creed is a joke. I don't think there are any unique games/experiences just rehashes from the previous gen with tarted up effects and obviously a higher resolution.
I have been jealous of reading about all the fantastic wii u experiences on here so decided to purchase one along with smash, 3d world, DKTF and Mario kart and wow these games look pretty. You could argue that these games are also rehashes but they still manage to feel unique. 60fps makes a big difference and the level of polish is unmatched.
I will keep my ps4 as I do have a long list of games I want in 2015 but think that I will be getting more game time with my Wii u over the coming months! Very happy to have both!
I have been jealous of reading about all the fantastic wii u experiences on here so decided to purchase one along with smash, 3d world, DKTF and Mario kart and wow these games look pretty. You could argue that these games are also rehashes but they still manage to feel unique. 60fps makes a big difference and the level of polish is unmatched.
I will keep my ps4 as I do have a long list of games I want in 2015 but think that I will be getting more game time with my Wii u over the coming months! Very happy to have both!
My roommate owns it. It's a good looking game for sure. I don't think it's very fun, but I don't really enjoy racing games other than WipEout and F-Zero (MK 8 didn't do much for me FWIW) so it could just be me.
Anyway, I'm not going to condescend to posting comments about "salt", but you're really not being very productive here. Cheers.
Windom Earle
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How can you say with a straight face that the game looks good in screenshots but not in motion? That does not make any sense, especially with the gifs posted here.
Anyway, even though I was not the person bringing the game up, I don't want to derail further so I will be quiet now.
Ninja Scooter
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It's more about the art style than the console itself. The cartoonish style nintendo uses is good, so good. That's why Wind Waker will never get old and that's why Xenoblade's X characters look so bad...
WiiU is perfect for the cartoonish style of Nintendo games...but go out of that style and you will get things like this.
The Xenoblade model is terrible but I agree I think that's more of an art design thing than a power/tech issue.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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What? Helll no
Windom Earle
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facepalm
Is this a serious question? Lots of games look good in stills but bad in motion because of the framerate. I'm not going to pretend a 30fps racing game looks good. I don't even like slow paced games at 30fps.
You don't hang out in many Wii U threads do you? This is kinda common.
Artstyle can go a long way. Good artstyle can hide lacking tech, but good tech can't hide lacking artstyle (I'm looking at you Knack.) Also, Driveclub looks amazing on GIFs and screenshots but I can't get over a 30fps racing game. I'm sorry, I just can't do that in 2014/2015.
Different strokes and all that. To my eyes, ignorant as they probably are, they could easily be characters plucked from some PS2-era RPG and given a resolution bump. I know that's not the case, but it's immediately what comes to mind when I see them. Still, while I personally find the designs a bit ugly, it is nice to see a little uniqueness; not every RPG has to feature FF style mannequins.
Spieler Eins
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Merely Mario Kart is the first title coming close to the likes of Sonic Generations (aka best cartoon looking game out there - at least in certain stages such as greenhill zone). Ironically, a GCN port is the best looking game in the OP. Pikmin 3 is pretty standard once you play it yourself and 3D World is hideous. Galaxy on Dolphin completely destroys it, but that also had great art direction, unlike 3D World which would have only made sense with the 3D effect on 3ds. 2015 onward finally has more impressive looking titles from Nintendo (although Zelda seems downgraded in the recent footage), but right now they are far from amazing.
Windom Earle
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I did not know Thrakier had another crazy twin on GAF.
Wanting racing games to have a sense of speed makes you crazy? Well, this is going nowhere.
Gotdatmoney
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Wat? 3D World is actually a great looking game with really consistent art direction. I find it to be way superior looking to galaxy (dolphin or not). All these people calling 3D World ugly I will never understand honestly.
Sonic Generations is a really pretty game but it ran like shit on PS3 and it was only 30fps at best compared to 3D Worlds 60.
My brain hurts from reading your posts. This shit makes no fucking sense lol