When you hit 30 as a virgin, you become a wizard. But what kind of wizard?

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What the point of getting laid just for the sake of it?
I could get laid very easily, I'm tall (6"3), I'm an athlete, I have an above average dick, I'm very confident and I know exactly what I want from life, I'm independent, I'm very happy and live a fulfilling life, I'm not anti social and chat regularly with perfect strangers (my good look is helping a lot), I have good social skill, I know how to interact with people, I know how to enjoy life, I know how to drink, party, play team sports etc... The only flaw that I have is that I have a huge ego and my confidence make me act like an eccentric because I don't give a fuck about what other people could think. I am also very polite and respectful and don't want to force myself onto other people if they clearly don't want me to. I'm self aware of my strong opinions and my big ego so I like to play dumb in order to not be too intimidating. I also don't like petty conflicts so I rather back down than escalate things and prove that I'm a macho, some people think of me as a doormat because of this, but when the conflict is worth it they clearly don't want to confront me, because I could be very mean and aggressive for the right cause.

With all this, I'm still a virgin and just turned 28 this last November. People could mock me but I don't care because I'm better than them at a lot of other things. I'm even pretty sure that I am better at sex than most non virgin because of my confidence, my empathy, my athletic skills, all those years of meditation, playing with myself, learning and researching, I know how to please someone and be careful. The only think I lack is muscle memory and automatisms, but I'm a fast learner so I don't really worry about that, and this is a thing all people should worry about when they have a new partner, even if they've got lot of sex experience.

If my regular activities and way of life start to bore me, maybe I could think about a relationship or becoming a manwhore but for the moment I don't care and I like the idea of becoming a wizard who don't look like one.

Maybe my testimony could help other late virgins who are lacking confidence and worry about things too much.

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Protip: talk to people, just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. Talk even if you don't know how to talk, even if people are absolute shit golems, even if you fail or stutter, even if you feel insecure, just talk. You'll meet hordes of viable mates in time, whether for friendship or fuckery, or maybe even love, but it's all about talking, then talking the talk and walking the walk.
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Eehhhhhhhhhhhhh I'm going back to my room
 
Well it is yet again the start of the new year. Im definitely going to try and make an effort to deliberately get relationships. Nobody knows but ive already been taking steps for years, most of it documented on gaf of improving things and nothing has turned things around for me. Money, losing a lot of weight, getting fit, eating well, dressing better, living on my own for a long time, did all that but really my personality isn't suited for socializing. I do in fact go out with people from work but all that does is makes me feel worse after the first hour cause there is an unexplainable thing that just comes so easy to people and all I can do is witness it from the outside. Nobody has ever shown an interest in me when im out so it doesn't help my confidence. Anyway this year is it, im done after this one.

I don't understand what you mean by "personality not suitable for socializing" and "some unexplainable thing that comes easy to people that you witness from the outside".

Can you elaborate.
 
The really important thing is being able to put yourself out there. Even if parties aren't your thing, you should try to go to them. Talk to people, find out when they're happening, and try to go. That's a great way to meet people and develop social skills.

And don't be afraid to ask someone if they want to hang out.
 
What the point of getting laid just for the sake of it?
I could get laid very easily, I'm tall (6"3), I'm an athlete, I have an above average dick, I'm very confident and I know exactly what I want from life, I'm independent, I'm very happy and live a fulfilling life, I'm not anti social and chat regularly with perfect strangers (my good look is helping a lot), I have good social skill, I know how to interact with people, I know how to enjoy life, I know how to drink, party, play team sports etc... The only flaw that I have is that I have a huge ego and my confidence make me act like an eccentric because I don't give a fuck about what other people could think. I am also very polite and respectful and don't want to force myself onto other people if they clearly don't want me to. I'm self aware of my strong opinions and my big ego so I like to play dumb in order to not be too intimidating. I also don't like petty conflicts so I rather back down than escalate things and prove that I'm a macho, some people think of me as a doormat because of this, but when the conflict is worth it they clearly don't want to confront me, because I could be very mean and aggressive for the right cause.

With all this, I'm still a virgin and just turned 28 this last November. People could mock me but I don't care because I'm better than them at a lot of other things. I'm even pretty sure that I am better at sex than most non virgin because of my confidence, my empathy, my athletic skills, all those years of meditation, playing with myself, learning and researching, I know how to please someone and be careful. The only think I lack is muscle memory and automatisms, but I'm a fast learner so I don't really worry about that, and this is a thing all people should worry about when they have a new partner, even if they've got lot of sex experience.

If my regular activities and way of life start to bore me, maybe I could think about a relationship or becoming a manwhore but for the moment I don't care and I like the idea of becoming a wizard who don't look like one.

Maybe my testimony could help other late virgins who are lacking confidence and worry about things too much.

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Congrats on unlocking wizard mode ahead of schedule.

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The really important thing is being able to put yourself out there. Even if parties aren't your thing, you should try to go to them. Talk to people, find out when they're happening, and try to go. That's a great way to meet people and develop social skills.

And don't be afraid to ask someone if they want to hang out.

I've been there done that and nothing was as tiring or boring than going to a public social place and hanging out with people

I am much more at peace and can have a better time when I am alone either in or outside my home

I do have certified mental problems though so I guess I'm not the norm
 
26 here, four years to go before becoming a wizard !

Which is the last fucking thing I want of course, this shit's been torturing me for years although I feel much better now than I did a few years back.

Still have tremendous difficulty putting myself out there due to a fear of failure/rejection that I cannot manage to overcome.

I'll try to make it next year, still have a lot of work to do to better myself.

Keep working on that confidence and you'll be okay
 
The really important thing is being able to put yourself out there. Even if parties aren't your thing, you should try to go to them. Talk to people, find out when they're happening, and try to go. That's a great way to meet people and develop social skills.

And don't be afraid to ask someone if they want to hang out.

Yup.

I liken social interactive experience to playing baseball. The first time you take a swing at a baseball, it can be super scary. Someone you don't know is throwing a ball that you know is very hard as fast as they can directly at you, aiming for a very small window, and the act of you swinging the bat only draws you closer to the trajectory of the ball that's hurdling towards you. But the more you do it, the more you realize that the person throwing the ball probably knows what they're doing, and you become more confident in your swing. Eventually the act of swinging is rudimentary, second nature, and you can often make the outcome of connecting with the ball a situation that you were effectively aiming for.

You just have to keep swinging. You won't always hit the ball, you might occasionally get hit by the ball, but you learn more and more as you keep trying.

Just keep swinging. Swing away.

Dammit why'd I get chewed out yesterday when I made jokes, but now it's open season and everyone is laughing.

Punch up, don't punch down.
 
I don't understand what you mean by "personality not suitable for socializing" and "some unexplainable thing that comes easy to people that you witness from the outside".

Can you elaborate.

Maybe the fact that virginity is such a big deal to him that so much as mentioning it will get him into berserk mode? People notice that shit.

And I'm not mocking him, I know because I used to be like that.
 
I've been there done that and nothing was as tiring or boring than going to a public social place and hanging out with people

I am much more at peace and can have a better time when I am alone either in or outside my home

I do have certified mental problems though so I guess I'm not the norm

Nah, its just that parties really are lame as fuck unless you get drunk.
You can talk to people but they arent there to discuss intelligent things. There is also the option to dance I suppose, if you are so inclined. Otherwise, unless theres a game console somewhere in the room its rather dull. Parties are extremely overrated. I think bars are slightly better because of more relaxed atmosphere and pool tables, but not much. You might get lucky and see a fight. Honestly I have no idea really why parties are so popular.
 
Well it is yet again the start of the new year. Im definitely going to try and make an effort to deliberately get relationships. Nobody knows but ive already been taking steps for years, most of it documented on gaf of improving things and nothing has turned things around for me. Money, losing a lot of weight, getting fit, eating well, dressing better, living on my own for a long time, did all that but really my personality isn't suited for socializing. I do in fact go out with people from work but all that does is makes me feel worse after the first hour cause there is an unexplainable thing that just comes so easy to people and all I can do is witness it from the outside. Nobody has ever shown an interest in me when im out so it doesn't help my confidence. Anyway this year is it, im done after this one.


Did you enjoy losing weight, eating better and dressing well ?
If you enjoy those things you could interact with strangers and random people easily because there's few people who don't like nice clothes, food or sports. Have you tried doing something who makes you feel great and just after that, when you are full of endorphine and feel like the king of the world you hit a bar and start talking with strangers without any discrimination. You don't have to be good at it, just smile, make eye contact, listen carefully and say random things. If the other party is not interested try your luck with another person. If you feel attracted to the other person, just say nice things to her/him like "you're cute", "you seem nice" and keep a happy face. Try to enjoy it and have a good time. Another thing, be aware of your surrounding and try to spot the special events happening around you. In a bar or at a party there is always a lonely person you could keep some company, or a heated discussion you could chime in. Just try not to be too agressive and annoying, practice yourself to find the right tone.

If you finally got money and are comfortable with yourself, you could also try to move out to another town or country. Talking with stranger and being new can help get you some attention and maybe you'll fit in better. There's always something new you could work out and keep in mind you are never wasting your time.
 
36 and a virgin. If you told me as a teenager that this was my future, I probably would've tried to do something about it. Now, though? Not bothered.
 
Nah, its just that parties really are lame as fuck unless you get drunk.
You can talk to people but they arent there to discuss intelligent things. There is also the option to dance I suppose, if you are so inclined. Otherwise, unless theres a game console somewhere in the room its rather dull. Parties are extremely overrated. I think bars are slightly better because of more relaxed atmosphere and pool tables, but not much. You might get lucky and see a fight. Honestly I have no idea really why parties are so popular.

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You may be doing parties wrong. When you attend parties, how many people do you actually TALK to? The purpose of parties is socializing. Alcohol assists in socializing. The point of a party, even a party with a theme, is not to submerse yourself in the subject of said theme or the contents of said party, you're supposed to be mingling.

We have Divekick on at all of our parties, because it's a game that keeps the energy in the room up and gets people talking, not because we want to see who in the room is the best at Divekick.
 
Lost my wizards training staff this year at 26. Was a fat kid through college, and struggled with my sexuality. Well since 23 I've been working to get where I am now physically, which is amazing compared to where I come from. I also moved to downtown KC, a little more option for gay men, although still pretty terrible.
I had a random one night stand with an amazingly hot guy I met walking around downtown. (Was after hanging out a few times I'm not a huge whore). We never pursued anything, but a couple months later I met my current BF on a dating site and things are going pretty well.
I say all this because sometimes things happen when you least expect. Who knew I would meet a partner walking home alone from brunch one random day.
 
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You may be doing parties wrong. When you attend parties, how many people do you actually TALK to? The purpose of parties is socializing. Alcohol assists in socializing. The point of a party, even a party with a theme, is not to submerse yourself in the subject of said theme or the contents of said party, you're supposed to be mingling.

We have Divekick on at all of our parties, because it's a game that keeps the energy in the room up and gets people talking, not because we want to see who in the room is the best at Divekick.

I probably am. If its a party where I know people I will usually talk to everyone incessantly. If its a place Im not too familiar with I usually talk to a few people and just people watch to entertain myself. I dont drink though, so that is probably an inhibiting factor.
I havent been to a party in a long time though. I do like going to social gatherings like concerts and sports events.
 
Nah, its just that parties really are lame as fuck unless you get drunk.
You can talk to people but they arent there to discuss intelligent things. There is also the option to dance I suppose, if you are so inclined. Otherwise, unless theres a game console somewhere in the room its rather dull. Parties are extremely overrated. I think bars are slightly better because of more relaxed atmosphere and pool tables, but not much. You might get lucky and see a fight. Honestly I have no idea really why parties are so popular.

Go to better parties. It's New Years' Eve and I'm about to head off for an evening of board games like Ticket To Ride and Dominion. Screw the loud music and gallons of alcohol ones.
 
Go to better parties. It's New Years' Eve and I'm about to head off for an evening of board games like Ticket To Ride and Dominion. Screw the loud music and gallons of alcohol ones.

I have work tonight.
However work will be a bit of a party anyway because we have to shut the trucks down at midnight for safety reasons. I will spend 6 hours basically doing nothing but watching movies or something.

As for parties, I live in Louisiana. Parties and festivals are everywhere but you can get tired of it. The only one I really look forward to a lot is Festival International for the music.
 
I've had sex and I feel no different.

I haven't had good sex though, which is what I think my problem is. I've never had sex with someone I actually wanted to have sex with, and this kinda bothers me.

Currently, I regret having sex with the girls who threw themselves at me.
 
I have work tonight.
However work will be a bit of a party anyway because we have to shut the trucks down at midnight for safety reasons. I will spend 6 hours basically doing nothing but watching movies or something.

As for parties, I live in Louisiana. Parties and festivals are everywhere but you can get tired of it. The only one I really look forward to a lot is Festival International for the music.
Live in Lafayette I take it?
 
Lol. I didn't know people actually try to shame others because they haven't had sex. If you just think about how weird that is, like yeah...
It's not shame so much as somewhat empty pity and insensitive jokes
Sometimes people try to give advice which is appreciated but mostly it's something like "just be yourself" which isn't helpful when "yourself" is the problem
 
Nah, its just that parties really are lame as fuck unless you get drunk.
You can talk to people but they arent there to discuss intelligent things. There is also the option to dance I suppose, if you are so inclined. Otherwise, unless theres a game console somewhere in the room its rather dull. Parties are extremely overrated. I think bars are slightly better because of more relaxed atmosphere and pool tables, but not much. You might get lucky and see a fight. Honestly I have no idea really why parties are so popular.

Being the only sober person at a party can actually be fun, because everybody else is really easily entertained. You can convince drunk people that you're some kind of comedian by telling shitty jokes and stories.
 
Lol. I didn't know people actually try to shame others because they haven't had sex. If you just think about how weird that is, like yeah...

It's Neogaf. Angry resentful nerds will punch down when they manage to actually find somebody that might be lower on the social order than themselves.

Yes, there's a tendency to mock people, but it usually isn't the feeding frenzy that this site often turns into when the topic is raised.
 
Lol. I didn't know people actually try to shame others because they haven't had sex. If you just think about how weird that is, like yeah...

Are you completely unaware of pop culture?

Not saying it's right, but it's pretty common in media and therefore common in day to day life.
 
Being the only sober person at a party can actually be fun, because everybody else is really easily entertained. You can convince drunk people that you're some kind of comedian by telling shitty jokes and stories.

true story, back in College all my friends were drunk at a party and we decided to play drunk Hide and Go Seek on the roof. I was the only sober one and I fell off the roof onto a car and got all cut and scraped up. Moral of the story is never play drunk games while sober.
 
Lol. I didn't know people actually try to shame others because they haven't had sex. If you just think about how weird that is, like yeah...

It's even weirder when you consider that people want to know details of what sex you have had.

"Have you ever had sex?"
"Yeah"
"Tell me about it"
"Well, it was with a girl."
"More"
"We were at her house and in a bed."
"Tell me more."
"We enjoyed...it?"
"GIVE ME DETAILS"

And then scary things ensue. Because people really want to mentally jerk off to the image of you fucking someone else, apparently. Even worse when people want you to know things. I've just been told things about what certain people have done. I've never asked. I actually know other people's safewords, how they like it...man, fuck being approachable.
 
The really important thing is being able to put yourself out there. Even if parties aren't your thing, you should try to go to them. Talk to people, find out when they're happening, and try to go. That's a great way to meet people and develop social skills.

And don't be afraid to ask someone if they want to hang out.

As someone who's been to more parties than he can count, I can say with quite a bit of confidence they aren't for me. I'll have fun with the similarly reclusive people playing Smash Bros or whatever in the living room while everyone else is outside, but that's about it. Can't drink more than a little bit for medical reasons and even if I could, I don't think I'd want to.

Hell, I'm dreading going to a New Year's Eve party I'm heading to tonight. Not because of social anxiety or anything like that, but because I know the only thing I have in common with the host there is something he's too embarrassed to talk about when other people are around, and I highly doubt I have anything in common with everyone else there.

I prefer smaller, more intimate crews in general.
 
true story, back in College all my friends were drunk at a party and we decided to play drunk Hide and Go Seek on the roof. I was the only sober one and I fell off the roof onto a car and got all cut and scraped up. Moral of the story is never play drunk games while sober.

This doesnt even make sense
 
true story, back in College all my friends were drunk at a party and we decided to play drunk Hide and Go Seek on the roof. I was the only sober one and I fell off the roof onto a car and got all cut and scraped up. Moral of the story is never play drunk games while sober.

Wait what?!? There's gotta be more to that story.
 
Nah, its just that parties really are lame as fuck unless you get drunk.
You can talk to people but they arent there to discuss intelligent things. There is also the option to dance I suppose, if you are so inclined. Otherwise, unless theres a game console somewhere in the room its rather dull. Parties are extremely overrated. I think bars are slightly better because of more relaxed atmosphere and pool tables, but not much. You might get lucky and see a fight. Honestly I have no idea really why parties are so popular.

Despite my distaste for western religion I actually have more fun at church parties. I went to one for this Korean church and it was tons of fun. Everybody was laughing and there was tons of great food and fun party games. Typical booze parties are pretty shitty though since I don't drink. I remember going to one Halloween party and being bored out of mind. My friend and I grabbed some safety cones and went out trick or treating instead despite being being a day early. We ended up taking half the party with us. The guy throwing the party wasn't too happy about it but its not my fault his party sucked.

I'll be a 32 year old virgin in a few weeks but I just don't pay much attention to it. I'm not interested in casual sex so until I manage to land a date and start a relationship it just isn't going to happen. Dating is really the issue since I can find anybody single. I don't do bars and everybody I've asked at work or school is involved or not interested. I'm also in debt up to my ears with no prospects while trying to keep the rest of family from imploding. I just have bigger things to worry about than getting laid.
 
It's even weirder when you consider that people want to know details of what sex you have had.

And then scary things ensue. Because people really want to mentally jerk off to the image of you fucking someone else, apparently. Even worse when people want you to know things. I've just been told things about what certain people have done. I've never asked. I actually know other people's safewords, how they like it...man, fuck being approachable.

Well...to be fair, people don't usually trade such stories as a means to gather fapping fodder. It's usually an attempt to empathizing with someone as a lot of sexual encounters come with interesting stories. The actual SEX part of the story is usually pretty boring, those stories are more about the hours leading to sex then the real sex.

Unless you're talking to people who are sexual enthusiasts, and then I can't help you.
 
Nah, its just that parties really are lame as fuck unless you get drunk.
You can talk to people but they arent there to discuss intelligent things. There is also the option to dance I suppose, if you are so inclined. Otherwise, unless theres a game console somewhere in the room its rather dull. Parties are extremely overrated. I think bars are slightly better because of more relaxed atmosphere and pool tables, but not much. You might get lucky and see a fight. Honestly I have no idea really why parties are so popular.

I hadn't touched a drop of alcohol until I turned 30, and it was an uphill battle to build up enough confidence to dance at a club, or talk to girl I liked. But overcoming that, without the help of booze was a huge character builder. I would still go home and sulk and hate myself sometimes for not fitting in, but other times I would feel great, and it made up for it. You can do it, you just need to be supremely okay with yourself. That being said, I've had more sex 3 years after starting drinking than all the 30 years previous. It's not about being drunk, its about being social.

The other thing about intelligent discussion, people will talk about intelligent things but you just need to be a good story teller. One discussion I often do well with at parties is the premise that we will find immortality through mechanization. I don't launch into it like "did you know that we will all become robots one day?". Instead I state "I'm excited to get old..." and eventually move to the theme "...think of the freedom that technology will bring us: Robot gardeners, robotic limbs, exoskeletons, virtual reality." and carry on from there. A lot of people have an opinion one way or another about how they want to grow old, and their love/fear of technology, so it lets people jump in and be opinionated without any knowledge of the subject.
 
Well...to be fair, people don't usually trade such stories as a means to gather fapping fodder. It's usually an attempt to empathizing with someone as a lot of sexual encounters come with interesting stories. The actual SEX part of the story is usually pretty boring, those stories are more about the hours leading to sex then the real sex.

Unless you're talking to people who are sexual enthusiasts, and then I can't help you.

I understand the difference, and yeah I'm referring to the latter. Why do you want to know how much anal I've done? And no, getting pegged by a short woman in clown makeup has never crossed my mind.
 
What the point of getting laid just for the sake of it?
I could get laid very easily, I'm tall (6"3), I'm an athlete, I have an above average dick, I'm very confident and I know exactly what I want from life, I'm independent, I'm very happy and live a fulfilling life, I'm not anti social and chat regularly with perfect strangers (my good look is helping a lot), I have good social skill, I know how to interact with people, I know how to enjoy life, I know how to drink, party, play team sports etc... The only flaw that I have is that I have a huge ego and my confidence make me act like an eccentric because I don't give a fuck about what other people could think. I am also very polite and respectful and don't want to force myself onto other people if they clearly don't want me to. I'm self aware of my strong opinions and my big ego so I like to play dumb in order to not be too intimidating. I also don't like petty conflicts so I rather back down than escalate things and prove that I'm a macho, some people think of me as a doormat because of this, but when the conflict is worth it they clearly don't want to confront me, because I could be very mean and aggressive for the right cause.

With all this, I'm still a virgin and just turned 28 this last November. People could mock me but I don't care because I'm better than them at a lot of other things. I'm even pretty sure that I am better at sex than most non virgin because of my confidence, my empathy, my athletic skills, all those years of meditation, playing with myself, learning and researching, I know how to please someone and be careful. The only think I lack is muscle memory and automatisms, but I'm a fast learner so I don't really worry about that, and this is a thing all people should worry about when they have a new partner, even if they've got lot of sex experience.

If my regular activities and way of life start to bore me, maybe I could think about a relationship or becoming a manwhore but for the moment I don't care and I like the idea of becoming a wizard who don't look like one.

Maybe my testimony could help other late virgins who are lacking confidence and worry about things too much.

Oh man.

I'm even pretty sure that I am better at SFIV than most SF player because of my confidence, my empathy, my athletic skills, all those years of meditation, playing with myself, learning and researching, I know how to Ultra someone and be careful.

I'm even pretty sure that I am better at tipping than most restaurant patron because of my confidence, my empathy, my athletic skills, all those years of meditation, playing with myself, learning and researching, I know how to please someone and be careful.
 
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